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 Post subject: Building computer for 2 teenage girls--suggestions wanted
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:41 am 
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My girl's computer died last week, and I thought that I would put together an Athlon XP system with a processor between XP2500-XP3000. My problem is in choosing components. I like the Shuttle AN35N-Ultra from Newegg at $58.00, but if I want SATA and Firewire I like the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe at $99.00. Any other ideas? What memory should I use if there will be no overclocking in the processor range I am considering. I will use an inexpensive video card or integrated graphics--no video intensive games played: just IM, web browsing and music, music, music.

Next is choosing a slightly more conservative case for girls. They do not like the same cases as do the boys---any suggestions?? They like beige or black, window or no window is OK.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.
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If you want SATA and Firewire, get the Asus. It's much cheaper than adding it later.

As far as Cases go, I'd recommend the Antec Sonata. Suitably boring, but nearly silent and reasonable well build.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:48 am 
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Beezlebubba9 is right on the money with the mobo and case, so consider this a second to his post.

As for the memory, one of the selling points of the nForce2 mobo is running dual channel, but it in this, it's a 'take it or leave it' kind of option. You can save $10 by getting a single 512mb stick, but I'll link both:

Mushkin 512mb PC3200 - $78
http://tinyurl.com/28nko

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2xMushkin 256mb PC3200 - $44 each ($88)
http://tinyurl.com/63xad


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:00 am 
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You have 2 girls so I would look into setting up a Jetway system for them. Its a single unit that acts like 2 seperate PC's simultaneously. With a HT enabled P4 it should work fairly well. Anand did a review of it and said it was great for most tasks. I don't know how well 2 people will be able to play UT2004 at the same time, but most anything else was accomplished without feeling lag.

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My recommendation is the following, I have the same setup at home for in the livingroom. I use it for mp3 on the stereo, email and websurfing.

Biostar M7NCG 400 with up to 128mb Int Video, nForce chipset, audio, LAN $65
XP 2500+ Barton $80
256 pc3200 mushkin $44
Powmax Beige Midtower CP808PL-1 350w $35 w/shipping

Im assuming you already have the hard drive, cdrom and floppy so something like this should be good to go. I noticed you said something about wanting firewire and the a7n8x-e deluxe. If you have the extra $30, then id get that board. I use that in my main rig, excellent board and saved you from having to get upgrades later on. Ive got 512 on the board because once in a while its used for playing Delta Force Black Hawk Down online and i needed to extra video memory, runs very well except when i come across a huge jungle map. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Building computer for 2 teenage girls--suggestions wante
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Pinkyblister wrote:
My girl's computer died last week, and I thought that I would put together an Athlon XP system with a processor between XP2500-XP3000. My problem is in choosing components. I like the Shuttle AN35N-Ultra from Newegg at $58.00, but if I want SATA and Firewire I like the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe at $99.00. Any other ideas? What memory should I use if there will be no overclocking in the processor range I am considering. I will use an inexpensive video card or integrated graphics--no video intensive games played: just IM, web browsing and music, music, music.

Next is choosing a slightly more conservative case for girls. They do not like the same cases as do the boys---any suggestions?? They like beige or black, window or no window is OK.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.
Pinkyblister


i know girls like the SFF cases, so i'd aim for one of those. it's easier for girls to handle the size and weight as well. also, if the girls aren't that good with the tech side of things, i'd go for a P4 system. don't flame me, but Intel's stability cannot be matched.

i sound kinda sexist huh? well, because i am. :D


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You have 2 girls so I would look into setting up a Jetway system for them. Its a single unit that acts like 2 seperate PC's simultaneously. With a HT enabled P4 it should work fairly well. Anand did a review of it and said it was great for most tasks. I don't know how well 2 people will be able to play UT2004 at the same time, but most anything else was accomplished without feeling lag.

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Interesting.
I wonder how it does with games?


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good cheap ram to get is crucial. crucial rockssss and they provide awesome quality and performance. check out www.crucial.com for more details. plus i think they have a lifetime warranty on their memory.


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 Post subject: Building computer for 2 teenage girls--suggestions wanted
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:59 pm 
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Thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply- I will look into every suggestion.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:07 pm 
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The Abit NF7-S mobo has SATA and Firewire, and is about $15 less than the Asus.


I have one and it is great,

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depending on what they are going to do on the computer, i wouldnt get SATA, just beucase it is so much more expensive than IDE HDDs now...

if they need the speed, then go for it


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depending on what they are going to do on the computer, i wouldnt get SATA, just beucase it is so much more expensive than IDE HDDs now...

if they need the speed, then go for it


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depending on what they are going to do on the computer, i wouldnt get SATA, just beucase it is so much more expensive than IDE HDDs now...


http://tinyurl.com/yu3gt = $93 SATA
http://tinyurl.com/4v83z = $87 PATA

$6!? Raptors aren't the only S/ATA drives out, ya know?


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An alternative to the Asus is the Abit NF7-S v2, that has firewire and SATA as well.


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IamDeMan wrote:
You have 2 girls so I would look into setting up a Jetway system for them. Its a single unit that acts like 2 seperate PC's simultaneously. With a HT enabled P4 it should work fairly well. Anand did a review of it and said it was great for most tasks. I don't know how well 2 people will be able to play UT2004 at the same time, but most anything else was accomplished without feeling lag.

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Interesting.
I wonder how it does with games?


I really cant see it letting 2 people play the newest games like Farcry at the same time without big lag, but Im sure it could handle original UT and the likes.


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You have 2 girls so I would look into setting up a Jetway system for them. Its a single unit that acts like 2 seperate PC's simultaneously. With a HT enabled P4 it should work fairly well. Anand did a review of it and said it was great for most tasks. I don't know how well 2 people will be able to play UT2004 at the same time, but most anything else was accomplished without feeling lag.

hexus
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Interesting.
I wonder how it does with games?


I really cant see it letting 2 people play the newest games like Farcry at the same time without big lag, but Im sure it could handle original UT and the likes.


Yeah she didnt really mention they'd be playing game...mostly just windows stuff.
Nice find.


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Don't forget one item :wink:


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depending on what they are going to do on the computer, i wouldnt get SATA, just beucase it is so much more expensive than IDE HDDs now...


http://tinyurl.com/yu3gt = $93 SATA
http://tinyurl.com/4v83z = $87 PATA

$6!? Raptors aren't the only S/ATA drives out, ya know?


i know...but from the ads that i have seen (hant been activly looking obviously), the SATA drives are like 99$ for 120 gig, while IDE you can get for around 60+


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It's not uncommon to find PATA for $0.50/gig on rebate offers, but SATA drives are dropping down to competative levels. Here's a 160gigger for $97 from Newegg with no rebate:

http://tinyurl.com/68zkc


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