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 Post subject: Re: $2500 to Spend on next Upgrade, need help!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:52 pm 
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ElvisG wrote:
That's right, my wife has been so nice to let me upgrade my whole system. My current system is a AMD 1.4, 100 gig, 786 Ram, Gefore Ti 4600. I was looking at newegg and I can't decide to go with the Pent 4 3.4C or AMD FX 53. Also should I wait for the 800XT to come out or just get a 6800 Ultra?

Please give me a basic setup of the best equipment out, most bang for the buck. I'm also alittle weary of what type of ram to buy so here is what I need. I will be buying all this by the end of July if this help. Thanks.

CPU
Ram
Drive
Case
Video Card
Power Supply
Sound Card

Basicly everything.


that question will be a toss up..P4 & AMD have very good systems, though AMD has taken the crown...


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:10 pm 
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ElvisG wrote:
Thanks SomeGuy for your opinions and lending me in the right direction. I've always owned an AMD based system but I want to go Intel on this one for some reason.

CASE
DVDRW
DVDRoM
HD1
HD2
RAM
MB
PSU
CPU

Total = $ 1,341.98

I left out the Video Card cause I'll wait until I can get a x800 Pro.


you might want to look at dual xeons....i just built one for a friend with 2 gb of ram and a 2.66 ghz xeon on an ASUS PC-DL deluxe mobo and the damn thing hauls ass....look that way if you wanting mad performance.

also make sure whatever you do DONT GET CHEAP RAM


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 Post subject: Here's my recommendation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:24 pm 
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You say games for the next 2 years, definitely (note that it is spelled correctly) x800 or N6800 then. No question about that.
You want HD space/storage. Tigerdirect.com has 200 gb Western Dig 8mb drives for $99 after rebate. Buy two, and they're still cheaper than the Raptors. Ok, you want a speedier disk/drive access...partition 20 gb on the drives in Mirror formation for reliability, the other 180 in stripe. You'll get a substantial boost in disk access but put your data at risk of loss in a drive corruption, but since you do video (like me a bit with DVD's) this data isn't really critical.
Sacrifice on the CPU if you must, get a 2.8 or 3.0 and upgrade in the future to a 3.x. The 3.4ee is extremely overpriced in the performance ratio to cost.
512 mb memory is plenty (get one stick if possible to allow future sticks since many mobos only have two slots)
DVD-get dual layer if possible. Sony has a DRU-700a that received a kick ass 9, but it's $250. You can't go wrong with Sony's line. For an alternative, again Tigerdirect has one called a Megastore for $79 and $119. at least worth checking out. I have TDK, never a problem, not dual.
Motherboards, I would say ASUS, but I've had problems getting support for my motherboard (P4C800e-deluxe), but it has the most features and such. Look for on board raid if possible. Consider Abit too.
Get a good aluminum case. Preferably one that can take 120mm fans. These run quieter and move more air.

Remember a couple of things, BTX is around the corner, so is PCI express, you bragging rights will be short lived, maybe x-mas at the most this year. I would make this my xmas present since both of these are not too bad of features to wait for.
Jake


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:59 pm 
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Belboz99 wrote:
I really think 2,500 is way too much to spend on a computer these days.

Dan O.


You gotta remember, back in the day a good computer would cost 3-5k. And that was pretty normal price to buy a PC. I know cause when I got my Compaq, my sis paid 3k for it. Now it is cheaper, but to our standards too much.


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 Post subject: Re: Here's my recommendation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:25 am 
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jakesty@aol.com wrote:
Ok, you want a speedier disk/drive access...partition 20 gb on the drives in Mirror formation for reliability, the other 180 in stripe. You'll get a substantial boost in disk access but put your data at risk of loss in a drive corruption, but since you do video (like me a bit with DVD's) this data isn't really critical.

512 mb memory is plenty (get one stick if possible to allow future sticks since many mobos only have two slots)

Remember a couple of things, BTX is around the corner, so is PCI express, you bragging rights will be short lived, maybe x-mas at the most this year. I would make this my xmas present since both of these are not too bad of features to wait for.
Jake


Mirroring PARTITIONS that are on ONE drive will do absolutely nothing for performance or reliability. The whole purpose of RAID is spanning data across multiple drives.

512MB RAM is good, but 1GB is better.

I already suggested a Dual Layer burner for $88...

BTX is not as close as you think. It is still in the baby stages. ATX will be here for a while to come yet. Even if BTX does come out, my guess is most motherboards will be available in both BTX and ATX.

You are NEVER ahead of the game when it comes to computers. You are ALWAYS going to be putting things off if you wait for the next best thing to come out.


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 Post subject: Re: Here's my recommendation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:30 am 
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512MB RAM is good, but 1GB is better.


Amen. And on a $2,500, it's borderline negligeable to go w/ less.


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 Post subject: Re: Here's my recommendation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:33 am 
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SomeGuy wrote:
512MB RAM is good, but 1GB is better.


Amen. And on a $2,500, it's borderline negligeable to go w/ less.


Except for the $400 budget system, 1GB shouldnt be too hard to fit into most budgets...I have 512MB and I know I need at least another 256MB.


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 Post subject: Re: Here's my recommendation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:43 am 
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Except for the $400 budget system, 1GB shouldnt be too hard to fit into most budgets...I have 512MB and I know I need at least another 256MB.


Yeah, and that $400 rig could have even squeezed it in if not for needing a case (and presumably a PSU).

As for your system, same boat here. It's the main reason for appraising my OCZ sticks, I'd really like another 512mb, but also in 2x512 variety.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:12 am 
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Interesting point on Dual CPU's, would that help me long term or are the CPU's of today fast enough to last me 2 years?

Remember all I want to do is play games, photo editing etc.

Also I think if I go with 1 CPU, I will get a AMD 3.7 and work my system around it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

ElvisG


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:20 am 
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ElvisG wrote:
Interesting point on Dual CPU's, would that help me long term or are the CPU's of today fast enough to last me 2 years?

Remember all I want to do is play games, photo editing etc.

Also I think if I go with 1 CPU, I will get a AMD 3.7 and work my system around it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

ElvisG


You can definitely (note that it is spelled correctly) eat up your $2,500 budget w/o going to a dual-CPU rig, and for your intended tasks that you mentioned, the money would be better spent elsewhere.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:19 pm 
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A suggestion for drives that I just installed myself - and gives me over half a terabyte in storage :)

First Raid (0) - two Raptors (72 Gig)
Second Raid (0) - two WD JB250's

Install everything on the raptors, use the 250's as storage. I've been running on this setup for about two weeks and I don't remember the last time an upgrade made me so happy.

You'll spend about 700 dollars on this (rough prices) . $350 for the 250 giggers, $350 for the 72 giggers.

Make sure your MB supports SATA RAID. IDE raid can be optional, and match the drives to it. I'm partial to AMD's because for the price they just make more sense to me. For less than a 32 bit P4 EE, you can get a AMD 64. If you go AMD, make sure you get the newer NForce or VIA.

And as far as PCI Express - my recommendation is to wait and let that technology settle down. Even the last MaxPC said the new NVidia's weren't going to be native PCI Express yada yada yada.


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