Final Version of Windows 8.1 Releases to Public in October

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Led Weappelin

No thanks. I'll stick with 7 until.......#9.

I guess they could botch that one up too though.

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LatiosXT

Ah yes, the slew of "Start screen sux lol!" comments, even though you could change that with a third party app.

This is getting old.

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Fenthic

Your missing the point for a lot of people. Its the fact that you should not have to install and use a 3rd party utility to restore a function that was there in the initial beta releases before they stripped the code completely out to force a touch interface on everyone.

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maxeeemum

Lets hope this is the final version! I'm running W8.1 Preview on a spare PC and it is just a minor tweak of the original. Nothing to get excited about!

If you run a decent Desktop PC Windows 7 is still clearly the superior OS. As documented by many websites Win8 is just marginally faster than W7. This was achieved by stripping out everything possible like DVD playback just so it could run on a low power tablet.

Hopefully M$ will get back to putting out a real Desktop PC OS and separating tablet and smartphone. Till then only "The Sheep" will approve of this limited OS called Windows 8.

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davelray

Wowwee! You heard it hear first folks. Straight from maxeeemum. The only reason Windows 8 is faster is because they stripped out the DVD playback codecs.

Seriously dude? You really want to show everyone else here just how little you know about anything?

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maxeeemum

@davelray

That's not what I said and you know it! So GFY! Windows 8 is just a stripped down version of Win7. Removing anything possible including software, functionality, usability and adding a terrible UI (IMO). In the past I've tried to be nice to you but it is not easy when you are dealing with a know it all holier than thou jerk.

So seriously dude? Learn how to read!

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legionera

I don't think you understand that W8 is for tablets (and marginally for desktops) while W7 is for desktops only. I am honestly confused as to why the masses so bad at warming that fact and bash W8 for the laughable MacOS and even some linux distros.

The true tablet experience is on the RT version of Windows 8. It works quite well, and from anthropological point of view I must tell you that it is very easy to use. You know when you install a program and you have to keep pressing next? Well that is gone because of the market.

The RT version is quite good. There are definitely some parts of the OS where you try to figure out WTF were they thinking when they did that, but overall, for the reduced price now, it is light years better than the iPad and any android device. (I tried all of them)

Don't bash W8 just because you don't like it. It is a great OS for a specific audience and I believe that it simplifies tons of stuff for you so you could get the flexibility of a desktop OS and the touch capability and UI of a tablet (something your grandparents and your kids wished for so long)

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davelray

@maxeeemum Hrmm let's see.... I don't think I really need to quote your original post. It's right there. I didn't take anything out of context. You claimed, in your post, which again, is right there plain for all to see, that Windows 8 is a "stripped down" version of Windows. That by removing things like DVD codecs and other supposed software is how they achieved faster speeds and to get the software to run on low powered tablets. This is what you claim. However, it's not true. As neither DVD playback or anything else you can throw out there has anything to do with how faster boot times and overall system speed was accomplished. They've already told everyone why native DVD playback was removed. They didn't feel it was cost effective to pay royalty fees for DVD playback for every copy of Windows sold which then cause them to pass on that cost to customers. There are plenty of solutions out there for consumers to get DVD playback if they need or want it. As for anything else, everything I can do under Windows 7, I can do under Windows 8 and I can do it faster. I have no problems with the UI because I don't quake and shiver at a feature like a UI that with one click can be dismissed when I don't want to use it, and with another click I can bring it back to take advantage of it when I choose to. I don't need a touch screen monitor to take advantage of the new UI as it works perfectly well with mouse and keyboard. I get access to the Windows Store if I choose to pull software from it, or I can install software in other ways as well. 8.1 will deliver some really nice customization features to Modern which I will gladly make use of and to be honest I feel they should have been there from the get go. But as with any first release of an OS there are things that get left out or need to be tweaked. It's you and others like you, the "self entitled ilk" of the internet that I'm tired of seeing whining and moaning. "Oh they forced a UI on us." "Oh my start button is gone I can't do anything without my start button." Along with the other myriad dozens of complaints. The only difference between now and when Windows 95 was released, arguably one of the first major changes in the UI, is that people now have the Internet and have chose to use it to bitch, moan and complain about everything they don't like. What all of you don't realize is there's a larger majority of Windows 8 users that don't say anything because they got it, they use it, and they have no reason to complain. So we have the vocal minority clogging up comments sections on these articles. And you are in the minority. If you don't like it fine, don't use it. But please stop the bitching and whining. I'm tired of reading it. Take it to Microsoft. It certainly does you no good here. Because people here have already made up their minds by this point. If you want to call me "holier than thou" and a jerk go right ahead. I don't really care what some nameless whining prick thinks of me. But if you are going to complain about something, at least do it from a well informed and educated stance instead of throwing up the drivel you put up.

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maxeeemum

Yep! Know it alls are never wrong! LOL!

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davelray

And I'm so glad to know that there are so many mature, well-informed posters like yourself around to share their educated opinions with everyone.

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maxeeemum

There's that dismissive tone again! Love your bio! You must pat yourself on the back everyday. Another sign of a know it all!!!

Sorry Windows 8 is killing your business and the rest of the PC industry. My condolences!

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davelray

I guess it must be so since you said it's so maxeeemum. You've already proven you know what it's all about. You know everything there is to know about Windows 8 and why it runs so fast. So you must obviously know everything there is to know about business and the PC industry, including the business of the company I work for. Good for you.

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maxeeemum

OK! Please reference my first reply second sentence.

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pastorbob

Baaaaaa!

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Volleynova

Windows 8 is much faster than Windows 7 on the same PC, even on a traditional IDE/SATA hard drive. You don't like the Modern UI, install Start8 and forget about your anti-8 criticisms.

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Granite

I am looking forward to the update. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy all the OS goodness that Win8 has given me these last 10 months.

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Mikey109105

I let out a big whopping LOL at this. Wouldn't touch 8 if they paid me.

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Arthur Dent

Once start8 or classic shell is installed windows 8 is just a faster version of windows 7. On my dads computer, which only has a 1tb hard drive with no ssd it boots from a complete shutdown in only five seconds.

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lordfirefox

Or you know install IOBit's Start Menu 8 which is free. Don't pay for something that should have come with the OS.

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kixofmyg0t

Well you're missing out then. It runs alot better than 7 did.

I won't go back to 7.

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PCWolf

What exactly is he missing out on by staying with Windows 7? Those stupid UI Tiles? Slightly Faster Boot Times? Whats the big need for having Windows 8? I surely don't see a need for having Windows 8. I don't have a touch screen monitor, & my SSD boots me up plenty fast. I don't need to boot up 5 seconds faster, so Windows 7 works for me as well.

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kixofmyg0t

It does everything faster. Boot, gaming, general responsiveness etc.

If youre happy with the slower Windows 7 fine. I'm not. I like Windows 8.

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Neufeldt2002

Gonna pass on this. Just not worth it IMO.

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PCWolf

+5 internets

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bjoswald

I think I can hear the world collectively yawn from here.

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pastorbob

Like they did with Ubuntu 13.04?

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John Pombrio

I will keep an eye out on Technet for the final build when it becomes available there. So far, it is still the preview.

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silverblack

Does anyone know if bringing back the start button will break any of the existing programs like Classic Shell?

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Fenthic

Classic shell and Start 8 both still worked in the 8.1 Betas I used. But Start 8 did have some graphical issues.

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aca20031

While I don't KNOW, it seems unlikely since the shell is a process and things like Classic Shell completely replace it. In other words, changes to the default shell shouldn't effect replacement shells.

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Shalbatana

Good question, but I would agree. I think at worst you'll have to re-install classic shell after 8.1

If worse comes to worse, expect an update from classic shell within days of 8.1