FCC Chairman isn't Buying Verizon's Excuse to Throttle 4G LTE Data for Unlimited Subscribers

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Eoraptor

Oh wow... an open letter! that will really show them! what next? a polite but sternly worded statement of non-binding principles? or maybe a nice hissyfit instead.

call me when he grows a pair that aren't owned and operated by the big telecoms

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vrmlbasic

America's very own Hans Blix (Team America World Police)

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tool1970

Hopefully he does something about this. I still have a galaxy nexus and want to upgrade but do not want to buy into the bullsip of losing my unlimited data.

KUDOS!!!!!

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WarpathPS

If you "upgrade" a phone through Verizon that puts you back into contract and you lose your plan. Just buy your own phone or if you have good signal in your area jump ship to a better company like T-Mobile who has done away with contracts and has unlimited data no questions asked.

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vrmlbasic

T-Mobile doesn't really have unlimited data in a way that is usable. There's no "overage fee" for going over your cap but there is an extreme slowdown. They have caps as low as 500 MB.

They now will allow subscribers to stream music w/o affecting their data cap, provided they stream from a T-Mobile sanctioned service. Talk about anti net neutrality as that's the same stunt that Comcast pulled.

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WarpathPS

That is caps on LTE, not 3g. on T-Mobile I can pull 6 down easily with 3g speeds. I have the best plan, which is unlimited LTE with no throttling or caps. Hey if you want to go with these carriers that offer the BEST phones but wait....you get throttled and overages, then be my guest. If you enjoy caps and throttling maybe you don't need the fastest phone there is that is LTE capable? Food for thought.

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Peanut Fox

TM has several plans with data packages that they list as "unlimited", however their most expensive $80 plan doesn't have any caps or throttling.

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WarpathPS

That is why I just use their MetroPCS.

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Peanut Fox

I haven't found an off contract plan that competes with T-Mo's $30 monthly offering which is a perfect fit for my usage right now.

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skinwalker00

I am with republic wireless. T-Mobile has really bad coverage so I can't really use them. Republic uses sprint's towers and will roam on Verizon. Check them out. https://republicwireless.com/

You can get $20 bucks off with their refer a friend program. I won't post it right now as to not spam but if anyone is interested, let me know

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Eoraptor

I lie in an area with a "T-mobile strategic partnet" IE a company in which Tmo has an ownership stake. that means I can't get t-mobile itself. so no $30 deal for me. Am on Redpocket, an MVNO that runs on ATT's network.

now if only my phone wasn't a POS

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WarpathPS

I use T-Mobile's subsidiary MetroPCS. I pay $60 a month, and I pull down 65-69 down and 27-32 up on LTE, just 15 miles north of Seattle where I live. No throttling, no scams, no contracts, I can also use my phone in Canada with unlimited data and text when I go and visit(which is often) and its GSM. Why on Earth would I want Verizon, so I can pay more and get less?

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MrHasselblad

An impressive deal there in Seattle.

I'm suprised nobody has ever run with the story of mobile phone and internet service in places like West Virginia. The state of WV has far less than two million people... But take a look at any mobile phone coverage map.

One would also be surprised at how little 4g there is anywhere throughout the entire state. But it gets better. Want high speed internet? Good luck getting half of the speed that most of the rest of the country has. Most quality high speed internet difficult to get through a majority of the state. Actually there are quite a few (ENTIRE) counties where high speed internet is available in either one or two small towns.

West Virginia is truly like a third world country.

The best part yet... The united states government pays very highly to subsidize each and every customer throughout the entire state. Guess what kids of numbers we are looking at??

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WarpathPS

I have a friend from the Air Force who lives in West Virginia, and it yeah I feel bad for the people there. People in rural areas get the shaft with everything though except for crime and traffic.

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boidsonly

You expect the guy who is throwing Net Neutrality under the bus to do something good for VZW customers?!
That loophole exists because he allowed it; the Industry wrote his bill(s). Wheeler is a PoS and will go down in history as single handedly sticking it to every person in America...

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BadCommand

Complete smoke & mirrors. Grandfathered unlimited verizon users is a pretty limited base at this point as Verizon forced/phased users out of this plan with deceptive upgrade tactics over the last few years. Wheeler's trying to decoy us with seemingly to care about a tiny throttling issue, while at the same time being the point man of a much broader throttling debacle.

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dbqfan

I am glad my contract with Verizon is expiring next month. This gives me time to explore for another carrier.

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WarpathPS

Why wait, when T-Mobile is buying out contracts? If a person in 2014 is in a contract with a cell phone company, they are a fool and deserve whatever the company does to them.

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vrmlbasic

Because T-Mobile sucks. That's the long and short of it.

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WarpathPS

Drinking the koolaid again ehh? Maybe I should pretend that I do not get 60 down and 30 up with my unlimited LTE, meanwhile you Verizon and AT&T peasants walk around with cracked cell phones waiting for that "upgrade" so you can pay out more overages and receive text messages that you are now being throttled. This message was sent to from my desktop, via my T-Mobile tethered with speeds that are faster than your local cable company. Have a nice day.

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atruebond

Agreed about contract phones, but some cannot shell out the $600 for their precious iPhone. On the other hand, I agree with most here that TM is crap if you are 25+ miles outside a city of 500k population. To address the WV issue, you have a two-fold problem. Hard to put a cell tower in the middle of a protected national forest (thank you tree huggers). Not easy dealing with dramatic change in elevation, even though the technology isn't based off line of site, its still gimped by it.

Verizon is the better carrier in my area, but I don't like their business practices, so I shop elsewhere.

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jbitzer

I am hardly a peasant, tMobile is great if you never leave the center of a major city. Coverage just outside that area is spotty at best and abysmal at worst.

Hope you aren't driving across state somewhere and break down, my Verizon phone will work fine.

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devin3627

bill gates actually changed the world. these scum-bags are parasites, like clearwire and aol. innovation means nothing to these idiots. they are border-line scammers.

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WarpathPS

Yeah Bill Gates didn't get fired from his own company after breaking the law to put Netscape out of business now did he?

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LatiosXT

On one hand, yes, if I have unlimited data, I should be able to consume as much data as I want.

On the other hand, no, a network can only handle so much traffic before being overloaded. If the network I'm on can only handle 100Mbps and there are 50 other people, then I cannot expect to have that 100Mbps bandwidth.

However, biasing who gets what chunk of that bandwidth based on how much data they're using is BS. It should just be an even number as possible that the network allows, with some exception for certain high priority services (like emergency services).

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WarpathPS

If it is overloaded, it sounds like it needs to expand. If you have a 30 minute drive through wait time at McDonalds, you build another McDonalds now don't you.

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LatiosXT

Except you can't just plop a McDonald's anywhere you want. You have to first buy or lease some land, build it up, get your permits signed, laws you have abide by, etc. In my area of California (or it could be a California thing in general), you're not allowed to have really tall signs. McDonald's didn't want to plop one in a shopping area because of this and what took over was a Carl's Jr. and Jack-in-the-Box, both of which did well. One McDonald's had to forgo the golden arches for green ones because the local building code mandated that only "natural colors" that blended in with the scenery were allowed (which made it a sort of landmark because it's the only McDonald's with green arches)

Same goes for cell phone towers. You can't plop one anywhere. They just have to upgrade the equipment. And even then, when does it stop? If I built a 5Gbps to give 50 people 100Mbps, now I can give one person 5Gbps, and I can simply advertise that ("Up to 5Gbps speeds!"). If I cap how many people can use the channel to give the advertised rate, I would be called out for that.

It's not as easy at it appears.

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Cyk0

If building and expanding towers for that kind of traffic was as easy as building a McDonalds, then why do we have these problems? Simple l, because it isn't as easy.

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WarpathPS

Why have these problems? Oh I don't know, maybe when big business and politicians start getting together high-fiving each other with bail outs, bills written by companies, and campaign contributions, those kinds of things happen? Apparently you guys feel bad for big business and believe what politicians tell you, meanwhile they are laughing it up after bending you over. I keep hearing we have "capitalism" on TV, i'm wondering what it is at exactly? Maybe telecommunication companies should just get some more laws passed controlling what you do with a smartphone that you OWN.

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vrmlbasic

The new trend is for cell phone towers to be incorporated into other buildings so in a sense building a new tower is as simple as building a McDonalds lol.

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Marcbman

Great, now he just has to do something about it.

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Mikey109105

He DID do something about it. He complained to Verizon in a open letter. Will he do more than that? In my opinion, not likely, but we'll see.