Don't Bother Asus with Silly 'Death of the Desktop' Talk

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pastorbob

My wife and I have four desktops, two laptops, two tablets and two smartphones between my home and work offices. Every device serves its purpose and there is some cross utilization. But it would be extremely difficult for us to efficiently perform our work related and personal tasks without our desktops. And I have my own cloud server setup on the home network that holds ten years worth of significant documents. Not to mention digital photos that go back to 2001 (about 10,000).

The research program I use is powerful but power hungry. Each time it downloads updates it rebuilds the index which takes a lot of horsepower (about 60% CPU utilization of all four cores at 4.4 Ghz). It takes a couple of hours on my laptop but only 15 minutes on my desktop. The laptop has an i5-3210M/8 gig DRAM as compared to an i7-2700K/ 16 gig DRAMon the desktop. And having three monitors to display several open books at the same time would be next to impossible without a desktop.

I realize we are an exception not the rule but you get the gist. I suspect there are a lot more people out there like us who are not gamers or enterprise users that require the power of desktops.

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spokenwordd

PastorBob, you have cited a PERFECT example of why there will always be Desktops as well as more portable options.

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ApathyCurve

If all you want is email, Farcebook, Twit-Her, and other mindless crap designed to keep the masses from trying to think too much, a laptop or tablet will serve your needs perfectly. If you want to do anything creative, productive, or play any games more complex than the garbage available on consoles, you'll need a real computer. Real computers reside in tower cases. Real men build their own. (Yeah, I suppose girls can do it too, but they should be in another room.)

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LatiosXT

Any chode can build a computer.

It takes a real geek to correctly troubleshoot what the hell happened when something doesn't go as expected.

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pastorbob

Very true LatiosXT!

There is much more to building a decent desktop than just assembling a bunch of parts.

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Vano

There are only two categories of users that would benefit from having a desktop PC:
1. Gamers
2. Audio/Video editing, including 3D development for first category users.

For the rest a laptop is a better alternative, due to it's portability and ability use it as desktop replacement if necessary.
Unless PC manufactures aim at these users, the PC market will fail.

And since more and more game developers give up on supporting wast amount of different hardware setups, and moving solely towards "easy" console development, the PC will die quiet soon. Especially when majority games now popping up on PCs are sloppy ports from consoles anyway.

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lordfirefox

Your view is so narrow you didn't even give any consideration to Indie Game developers who's primary release platform is the Desktop PC. And you have no counter argument to that, no matter how you look at it, for Indie Game Devs PC is ALWAYS the first platform.

And the more of the AAA devs go to Consoles we gain 6-7 more indie devs, so, no Desktop PC's won't be going away.

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spokenwordd

With all due respect that is total bologna Vano. Desktop users are much more diverse than your two categories. Here are a few that have HUGE numbers:

3. Power Users - Users that prefer customization of components, upgrading CPUs, GPUs etc. for future proofing. This is the largest make up of Maximum PC readers most likely. And guess what, they might not be gamers or video editors. Portability is not important if it throws options out the window.

4. Enterprise - Companies are not going to stop buying desktop PCs anytime soon. No way. Sure for their mobile staff such as sales people or executives but businesses don't want company assets leaving the building.

5. Budget Users - There are also budget users that prefer the longevity of a desktop build or purchase. You can throw together a $600 machine today that can be expanded as cash flow increases. You just can't do that with a laptop.

Desktops aren't going anywhere. How many years now has their extinction been predicted?

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Vano

3. Unfortunately number of Maximum PC readers are drop in a bucket. They are so insignificant, that they don't even count in the equation.

4. I'll admit, didn't think of enterprise. But they buy prebuilt PCs from Dell and such, that use their own components...don't they?

5. the prices on laptops are so low, for $600 you can get a laptop that will be future proof for next 5-7 years. It's all about tolerance.

Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm wrong, unfortunately my conclusion is based on what I see around me, where everyone I know have moved on to laptops. I'm in 1 and 3 category myself, but other then games I can do everything I need on a laptop. Plugin monitor, mouse and maybe even keyboard and viola, you got yourself a desktop computer and if you go somewhere, not a problem at all. Simply convenient.

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Zee530

5. In terms of PPP (price per performance) ratio, a laptop cost about 1.5 to 2x more than it's desktop counterpart.

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JosephColt

I disagree with this sentiment.

It would be better to say a phone replaces a laptop, we all should have desktop computers.

Why do we need laptops unless you need one for school or work when constantly mobile? Everything else can be done on a phone.

Sloppy ports don't mean they have given up on PC at all, but it's a money and time concern. It's not feasible in a development cycle to spend so much time on a small portion of potential customers when hardware is vastly different(cell processor vs x86).

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LatiosXT

Even a decently powerful laptop can serve as a content creator or a gaming machine. It just depends on your tolerance.

Also the whole PC port thing is sort of a myth now. "A majority of ports" aren't sloppy, though there are some design choices that don't translate well for a mouse. But honestly, a lot of them are workable and not downright awful for mouse navigation. A sloppy port to me is something like Dark Souls: Prepare to Die. And given that XB1 is running Windows (albeit a stripped down version), you get all the nuances as if you were programming for the PC anyway.

If anything it just means PC gamers will enjoy higher resolutions and faster frame rates.

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JosephColt

Dark souls was a bad poor graphically. The game had low resolution textures, and low resolution, but mods fixed all that.

Dark souls though is not a game you want to play with a mouse and keyboard; it's perfect with a game pad.

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LatiosXT

I'm finding most third person games better on a gamepad than a keyboard + mouse, even if the game has shooting elements in it. GTA-like games (notably Sleeping Dogs and Saints Row) I've found better on a gamepad. I also found Dead Space better on a gamepad, but that just may be due to how quirky the game is with mouse aiming and Vsync. Though something like Gears of War or Bullet Storm I find better with a keyboard + mouse.