CyberPowerPC Unveils Zeus Hercules Gaming Laptop with Integrated Graphics

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Seems rather pricey for a notebook without a discreet graphics card, especially for such a small notebook.

I see this following in the trend of manufacturers charging more for systems with fewer hardware options, marketing toward posers and the uninitiated duped into following the latest fad.

Great way to boost revenue, though.

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vrmlbasic

"Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200, to be exact, which Intel claims offers up to twice the 3D performance of today's fastest mobile Intel HD Graphics solutions."

"Quick, Milhouse, what's a million times zero? And don't tell me it's zero!" <- Bart Simpson

Doesn't this Iris 5200 only have 128 MB of on-board memory? How will that work when games are requiring much more (some even 1 GB+) RAM, especially with the slow system RAM?

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tom_m

It's integrated on the CPU, so it would not ordinarily have any dedicated memory. Instead, the CPU has a 128MB eDRAM L4 cache which can be used for both GPU and CPU functions. The eDRAM's adaptibility is why we'd like to see the chip at retail, or at least in an OEM system with discrete graphics. Embedded RAM usually has much higher bandwidth and faster performance than conventional system RAM, thanks to its proximity to the CPU. The Xbox 360 uses eDRAM to give the system essentially "free" anti-aliasing, using a method called predicated tiling: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb464139.aspx

And the 360 only has 10MB of it.

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vrmlbasic

Doesn't the Xbox 360 also have 5 Ghz GDDR5 RAM? No matter how fast this L4 "eDRAM" is, won't it still have to constantly pull in textures and data for its GPU from the system RAM, RAM which is more than 3x slower than that of the 360/PS4?

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tom_m

The 360 GPU actually uses 512MB of DDR3, shared with the rest of the system. The pooling allows the CPU to read what the GPU is doing without having to copy it to another memory address first. DDR3 handles smaller chunks of data better than GDDR5. GDDR5 handles larger chunks better.

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vrmlbasic

Darn. I meant to say "Xbox One" but I guess I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

Though I would have honestly expected you to poke fun at my lapse while realizing that I indeed meant the "XBone" as it was fairly obvious (since the 360 does not use this new intel tech).

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Refuge88

Tom, I appreciate you as a person who spreads accurate knowledge.

Thank you kindly for your services! :)

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tom_m

Happy to help :)

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lordfirefox

It doesn't matter. The laptop's system memory is DDR3. Nowhere near as fast as GDDR5 (which is actually DDR3 optimized for GPU's) Unless the IGP has it's own bank of GDDR5 to use it's still going to be miles slower than a discreet GPU.

It's a nice, if rather expensive, laptop for Grandma to play her Facebook games on though.

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dherrick12

I am looking forward to what they can do with this chip. Take the graphics card out of razor blade/edge and make thinner, lighter and longer battery life with minimal to no decrease in gaming capablity! Thats the pipe dream at least. This seems too heavy and too thick, not the ideal implemetation of iris 5200.

That being said it seems resonably priced considering how much intel is charging for these chips. I am very curious to have a head to head review of this chip vs. a dedicated graphics solution. I would def trade performance for increased battery life and less heat to a degree.

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Refuge88

Check out the archives over at Anandtech, they did a very nice little review of the Iris Pro, and I can't remember positively (So don't hold me to it) But I believe it was somewhere similar to the equivalent of 640m-660m graphics?

Don't quote me on that though, I read that forever ago.

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Nooorm

I've had a Cyberpower gaming tower for the past year which I've enjoyed...never had a single problem with it, but for $899 you can get a Lenovo Y410p with these specs:

4th Generation Intel Core i7-4700MQ Processor (2.40GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
NVIDIA GeForce GT750M GDDR5 2GB
8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
1TB 5400 RPM+24GB SSD

No contest!

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vrmlbasic

That Lenovo has a <1080 screen resolution though :(

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jbitzer

"Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200, to be exact, which Intel claims offers up to twice the 3D performance of today's fastest mobile Intel HD Graphics solutions."

I love that they're using the apple strategy of not comparing to better solutions, but rather your previous product.

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Vesuvius

If I am getting a low power laptop I am going with the Dell Latitude bus series. Magnesium and aluminum mil specs, most durable laptop you can buy with mad 8790 2gig card! You can also get a 5 year warranty for not much cash with onsite service which is unheard of. The latitude line blows away all comers in its class. I always get at least a 3 yr warranty and have used warranty support at least once every time ( used it twice on an old Dell Xps crap laptop running Vista) Which brings me to CyberPower and Ibuy etc, they have great prices and some nice rigs but I dont trust the warranty and tech support. For those that need it check reviews first. If you are good with replacing your own hardware, drivers, and know your way around a computer inside and out should not be a problem but if you dont have time for that stuff go with Dell or other company that offers top notch support. ( Example I live overseas, had an issue with my Alienware Laptop, within one week had a laptop guy drive an hour to see me armed with motherboard, video cards and hard drives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again the only company in the world that would do that if you live overseas!!

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labelkills1331

I'm not a huge fan of either ibuypower or cyberpower, that being said, 5 years ago, I bought my first "gaming" rig from ibuypower, it came and literally did not work straight out of the box. It would start up, stay on for maybe 10 minutes then just shut off. Newegg was kind enough to let me return it for a refund, and I switched to cyberpower. I still have the cyberpower bare bones I started with, i7 920 and mobo, but have since upgraded everything else. I have no complaints!

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labelkills1331

so for $1000 you get a 14" screen, a slow hard drive, not much memory and integrated graphics. What exactly are you paying for at that point? I've seen far better laptops from Acer.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Yeah, my point exactly. I file this one with netbooks and ultrabooks.