CyberPowerPC and Newegg Tag Team $300 Quad Core System for the "Everyman"

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glpeter90

You know if your a mechanic you can probably build your own car for a lot less that what Detroit would charge you. You might even have some of the parts sitting around. You would work and put them all together. Marking sure that all the parts work together, as well as all the software, and drivers work together. This is not a bad price for something off the shelf. It is lower to mid range. But most could use it for most of the applications mentioned, and still be able to watch a movie. I would part $300 to provide one these to someone I felt needed those functions at what I find it normally a $400 price range.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

For scrolling through Facebook, firing off emails, typing up reports, and that sort of thing?

Really?

I don't see any reason for these quadcores to even exist at the frequencies given

I can get old nehalems for $20, $10 or even free that will do the chores described here

The tasks listed for this box would be much better served with a dualcore at much higher clock frequencies

When would you ever use all 4 cores for the tasks listed anyway?

And at 1.3Ghz?

I can get out and walk faster than this

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LatiosXT

I wouldn't take it anyway because

1. It's old technology and those parts probably aren't new.
2. A Nehalem would require a GPU.
3. The power draw would be a lot worse. More power means more heat which could possibly lead to more noise from the cooling fans.
4. Most tasks the "everyman" PC uses are I/O bound, where CPU speed isn't as important. In fact, my desktop, if it's sitting around waiting for me to do something, stays around at 1.3GHz or less.And I'll say it again, I have a tablet running an Atom Z3740. Experience has been more or less smooth across the board.

And besides, my phone which packs a dual core ARM processor with probably less computing power (the CPU itself) than a Pentium 4 can handle those tasks just fine.

The only bottleneck in this system is the secondary storage.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Well....

You may be correct, but their are few things on this site less entertaining than watching a couple of contrarians agree

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Weo

I think you really have to compare this computer to those in it's price range. If you are looking at PC's in this price range, I think you might be compromising more with other brands. This allows better gaming, video, music, photo editing, etc. than a no-videocard computer. Add to that an OK PSU and you can upgrade as needed. If it's just browsing the web, watching YouTube or Netflix, listening to music, doing limited documents, and price is a big issue, you could just get an HDML adapter for your phone(screen mirrored on TV or monitor, use a BT keyboard and mouse (or hook it up to a USB powered hub with peripherals) and you're done. Most people already have the latter components already.

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Granite

I'm all for consumer choice, so if cyberpowerpc and newegg can sell these machines I see it as a good thing.

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AFDozerman

Know what's hilarious? I was walking out of Fry's electronics with most of these same components in hand when I pulled my phone out of my pocket and saw this article. I'll let you know how it runs when I finish the build.

If anyone wants to know how it runs, just let me know what benches you want to see. It'll have to be linux-compatible, though.

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sttrumpet

How much did your components cost?

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AFDozerman

Altogether, I got a 500 watt PSU, the Sempron 3850, four gigs DDR3 1066, and a small SSD (going into primary rig) for about 200 dollars even. I already had the case and two 7200RPM WD Green HDDs, so it isn't *exact*, but still very similar.

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xunknownx

i built many sub-$300 desktops and i would use save money on a lower watt psu, cheaper case, kb, mouse and spend the extra money saved on a SSD and better processor. something like an i3 or amd a10

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LatiosXT

The one thing they have up on you is that they're including Windows, which none of us (I believe) have access to the discounted OEM rates. So immediately you're out $100.

Also knowing CyberPower, they're probably using a super cheap PSU, like this Diablotek one on Newegg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822008 ), 500W but $20.

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The Mac

lol at the reviews....so does a potato...lol

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ram1220

I know . that was hilarious. Also the one that said I've had several of these and they all lasted about a year. Lol

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LatiosXT

The gaming aspect throws me off if it's built as an "everyman" PC.

I think the everyman would rather have a little box like a Steam Machine.

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btdog

When I saw the gaming keyboard and mouse, my immediate thought was "obsolete inventory" that they're trying to get rid of.

While I really like the idea of a cheap computer for "every man" the experience is going to be painfully slow. Still, for people on limited budgets or are hesitant to try a computer, this might be low enough to convince them to buy.

Unfortunately, this is another example of AMD "racing to the bottom." I really hope they have a lot developing behind the scenes.

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LatiosXT

I wouldn't say it'd be painfully slow, if all you're doing is web browsing and office work. I keep coming back to it, but I have an Intel Atom Z3740 based tablet that works pretty well for keeping the experience more or less going. I've managed to get Half-Life 2 up and running and while loading certain takes an eternity compared to my desktop, once it's going, it goes pretty well.

So what does that have to do with this? The Sempron 3850 is about 70% faster than the Atom Z3740, if Passmark is anything to go by.

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AFDozerman

Well, I don't know anything about this running Win7, but with the same APU on linux with a similar HDD, the whole experience is pretty fluid. I'm using a similar build running Ubuntu 14.04 as a server and *nix machine and while the animations in Unity *do* seem a bit choppy, but not UX killing. I'll throw in my old HD7770 when I get a chance and see if it helps anything.

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tatsujin

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1. AMD
2. 1.3Ghz
3. Less features
4. Awesome high electricity bill at the end of the month

Get an Intel i3 Haswell with 4 threads/2 cpu. That will eat the crappy processor featured in here with a bargaining price.

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AFDozerman

You're kidding me, right? Haswell will be way more expensive. Unless you're living in some place where electricity is *extremely* high, you aren't going to make up for the price of the Haswell part and its more expensive chipset before the computer'Ss life has run its course. Please stop spreading FUD.

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CleverBullet

High electricity bill? What're you smoking? The Sempron 3850 - a Kabini chip - has a 25W TDP, it won't do anything other than sip electricity.

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devin3627

wow! finally a system that isnt a piece of over-hyped overpriced steam-machine.

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The Mac

The gaming mouse and keyboard seems odd for a non gaming machine.

Not appropriate for my Dad.

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Blues22475

Agreed given that this is meant for basic computer tasks, it seems like that was jut throw in there to lure some folks who don't understand the specs and see "gaming keyboard" and "gaming mouse".

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Sir Hobbes3

Yeah, kinda like what NVidia does with its graphics cards with a number lower than 50 at the end. They go: "Every PC needs good graphics, get a GeForce GT 610 and be able to watch videos, surf the web, and play your favorite 3D games*!"

*Games cannot be played at a decent resolution, settings must be lowered to the lowest possible settings for anything above 10fps, games will not play at anything above 20 fps regardless of the settings.

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LatiosXT

Most people who go that low don't care about 3D gaming anyway. The most "3D gaming" to them is probably some web app that does isometric 3D.

Otherwise the 610M does eh: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-610M.63759.0.html

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Arnulf

500W PSU for computer that uses less than 100W ? Yes, I understand that the PSU in question would mostlikely explode when passing the 400W (yes, four hundred) mark but this is silly regardless. There are decent quality PSUs out there that can actually deliver (and sustain) 300+W.

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glpeter90

Very cool !