China Outlaws Battlefield 4, Claims Game Threatens National Security

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SYL808

Let the people take out their frustrations in games rather than in real live! Some people are angry about Japan trying to declare DiaoYu Island their own (it was stolen) and smashing other people's car simply because they were Japanese made. Let these people take their anger out on BF4!

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Rogue74

The U.S. should sue EA because of the unbelievable story. China takes down an entire carrier group and somehow manages to board an assault carrier full of Marines. China should be loving this game.

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Joji

The Chinese Government and their military created their own Call of Duty game called, "Glorious Mission." As the name implies, their "glorious mission" is to recapture the Senkaku Islands that the "Japanese invaded and took."

In the game, you are equipped with China's finest weaponry and campaign/co-op is nothing but a budget shooter COD rip-off. Oh, and did I mention linear maps and poor AI? The multiplayer is bland TDM and that's about it apart from the Chinese constantly calling the Japanese, "Demons," over and over again according to a source I read.

Do I find "Glorious Mission" to be offensive? Kinda, considering I'm half Japanese. But do I ultimately care? Not really. If you don't like it, don't talk about it or even look at it. It's simple as that.

China is such a hypocrite. This is why I hate communists/socialists so much. Someone please make an article about China being a hypocrite for banning BF4?

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praack

China, China, not surprised at all- why would a totalitarian regime allow people to play a video game where the government was overturned?

remember this is a country that is praising Mao- though over 5 billion died (well reported actual numbers are higher) and people lost their livelihoods as he purged anyone with more than an elementary school education from the ranks.

Ah China- such a nice country, internet locked down, you can be placed under house arrest at any time- meaning you cannot leave but the police can come in and beat on you anytime. and your sentence can last for years.....

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TommM

5 billion died? Uh..not quite. That's over 4 times what the entire population of China is as of 2012.

His murder count is still horrific though - an estimated 45 million over 4 years.

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tonychow70

I am Chinese, I didn't play BF4 yet, just like in this article said: if I want to play this game, I have to download through p2p network, illegally. But for Chinese government banned this game, I have some personal opinion: a buddy of mine did play BF4 for awhile, but he decided to delete the game as well, then I ask him why, he told me: This game is bullsh#t! In the game, chinese military been set to against US armed force, and of course, the US always win, also Chinese been beat like hell, I don't like it, I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!! It sounds like he is kind of patriot. I told him: it's just a game, don't put a game in a political area. But he won't listen. So I think maybe this is the real issue for Chinese government to banned the BF4 in China.

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ocnier

Tony I don't understand your friend's comments at all. I played thru the single player campaign and the U.S. gets it's butt whooped by China. Heck the lone ship we have left has to limp back to the panama canal. Your friend obviously didn't play the single player campaign.....

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Engelsstaub

I don't think your nation's military would get beat like hell. I think, if it was real, it would be a pretty close fight and the Chinese could very well win in the end. I sure wouldn't want a real war with China. Tell your friend that I was in two different branches of the U.S. military (Army and Air Force) and I respect your nation and its military capabilities. Peace :)

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tonychow70

In the real world? I don't know, US armed force own a lot of techs, but Chinese has more people and the techs getting upgrade and upgrade. The fact is I don't want to see these two nations go to the war in real world, that could be WWIII, like you said, Peace. I will told my friend what you said.
BTW, I am living in US more than 10 years, I love this contry just as well as I love China. both of us have some issues, Chinese has much more, include big mater of food safety. If you have chance to visit China, I may introduce some real and good chinese food to you.
Have a nice day.

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vrmlbasic

They have our missile technologies and they have all the intellectual property that they steal from the devices that we naively have made there.

That said, their first "aircraft carrier", a retrofitted Russian hand-me-down, is a sad hunk of junk (apropos). I'd bet that even the pansified, allegedly demilitarized Japanese could beat the hell outta the commies of mainland china. If China keeps posturing over those Japanese islands we might just see that happen.

...if the US military ever falls to China, it will only be because our idiots in DC so weakened it that a gentle breeze could topple it.

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Engelsstaub

I wouldn't call missile technologies that were "stolen" from Nazi Germany and further developed by Russia, Great Britain, AND the U.S. "our" missile technologies. Ours were pretty primitive in comparison before the end of WW2.

While I concur that China develops little of its own technology I don't believe it's all of strictly American origin. Most nations have a lot of stuff made there now and many have contributed to those technologies.

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vrmlbasic

You're way off base with missile tech. The Chinese had none of it, except what the Russians let out, until the debacle under Clinton where they suddenly ended up with vastly superior missile tech that was eerily similar to our own. They couldn't attack Taiwan if they had wanted to for years as they couldn't cobble together a missile to hit it and then suddenly they could. Makes one wonder.

BTW, the missile tech that we got from the nazis was derived from the work of Goddard.

Our military is in sad shape: we spend more now than we did in the 1980s but our Navy is about 1/3rd the size, our Army about half the size and our Marine Corps has become a bloated land-based fighting force. The current Administration has been booting out the top brass left and right and running social experiments with the military. That the loon bradley, or as he likes to be called nowadays "chelsea", manning even made it into the military (or that the known-crazy DC naval yard shooter was vetted) makes me fear that we've already got a de facto Fifth Column in our forces.

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Engelsstaub

How was I way off base about the missile tech? I merely pointed out that the tech wasn't exclusively of American origin.

I'm not a hyperpartisan for either party but my experience in the military confirms what you say about liberal administrations dumbing down and throwing people out. When I served (beginning near the end of Desert Storm) it was the enlisted that were getting their retirement pensions cut to 60% of their base pay. It was ridiculous; watching people who served 15+ years get screwed.

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sttrumpet

The USA military budget is larger than the next 11 countries combined. China holds a huge portion of US debt. Video games have nothing to do with reality. That is why they are an "Escape"!

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JosephColt

If China even attacked the US, then the debt we owe them would be moot, but we would also have to move a lot of production of goods to other countries with cheap labor.

Also considering the US would call upon it's allies to fight China they would be in serious trouble. The US owns the skies and sea with their air force and navy, and without the ability to move such a large army across an ocean their ground forces mean nothing in an assault. Numbers also mean nothing as well these days when we can bomb them for weeks straight without running out of a supply.

China has no reason to attack the US as they make a ton of profit off the US, and the world economy, and their would be damaged with a war between the two.

This guys friend is a fool, if the game was made in China too it would have China win, or in Russia it would have Russia win...

In short summary, China realistically has little chance in a war against the US, or any reason to attack it.

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USNflyer13

We would win but I lot of good people would die in the process.

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Innomasta

This is why everyone is fighting russians in video games.. they're the only nation that doesn't bitch everytime they're put unfavorably in a video game.

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Upyourbucket

I think think a good article would be all the low quality, bug ridden major title games pushed out this year.

-Sim City
-Total War: Rome II
-Battlefield 4
-and whatever other games I am forgetting.

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JosephColt

What a bull shit post.

"At the same time, the game has been so buggy since launch, the Chinese government may inadvertently be doing gamers a solid with this move."

Oh yes, "BANNING" a game because it has some issues is a real "solid." What major online game doesn't suffer issues at launch or have minor bugs that need fixing. I call bull-shit on most of these problems people have. I've seen BF4 run across a variety of hardware, and players without issues. Most of the game breaking issues were ironed out in the first week or two. Most of the issues I see from people are nothing to do with the actual list of problems DICE are working on too; those issues are not game breaking too on that list.

Gaming sites just blew crap out of proportion(like any news or media sites do). Played over 250 hours, no issues after first two weeks, at least for myself and a ton of other people. There will be bugs, obviously, but the game works great now, and there isn't anything game breaking bug wise.

This isn't a game you just play for a few days then move on, you play it for several years; this is game running off a complex engine too. People don't understand this from the developers side, and the author hear clearly has no idea how hard it is to design a game on such a technical level.

Author needs to learn to keep his personal opinion out of articles as it's unprofessional.

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pastorbob

Is that you Sheldon Cooper? Take a chill pill, it's a joke!

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Paul_Lilly

Relax JosephColt, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. To make it more obvious, I could have put a "j/k, lol" afterwards followed by a winky face, but then it really would have been unprofessional. ;-)

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maleficarus™

I understand you were just being funny. But common now pick on another game lol

By the way, like your articles!

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Upyourbucket

I think the author has every right to give his opinion if he wants to. This is the Maximumpc crew. People subscribe to the magazine and READ THEIR OPINIONS. This isn't any different. You didn't do anything wrong Paul. The majority of us agree with you.

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maleficarus™

Agree with you 100 percent Joe! Go to the BF4 forums and all you read is people complaining about bad net code and game crashing and sound problems. But when you start looking into the complaints you find most of them have 2 or 3 VGA cards and they live in Europe which is notorious for bad internet, and sound related problems using onboard sound! And finally after asking them questions they admit they have there PC's overclocked to insane levels.

This isn't rocket science people!!

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Engelsstaub

This is technically a blog post, not a BBC article.

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JosephColt

You still need people to take you seriously no matter where you write, or what type of article your are articulating.

I wouldn't call this a blog post either...or should I say this should not be a blog.

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Engelsstaub

I'm not trying to start shit with you but srs: why isn't it enough to vehemently disagree with his opinion and tell him so without basically calling him unprofessional? I've learned over the years of reading the print mag and this site that opinion is a big part of this publication. That's why most people are Gordon-disciples; it's seemingly part of the appeal.

I get that you like BF4 and haven't had a bad experience with it. Apparently Paul has though. IDK.

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JosephColt

Well, the point is that comment is stating something ridiculous, and in an unprofessional matter. That comment spreads and exaggerates the games problems further. There are no game breaking bugs that make it unplayable, it is very playable, small bugs here and there in a game are normal!

Comments like his keep people from playing a game that is really good in its own right. People are easy to sway when you trust them all the time, and when you hold power over peoples trust...you can control them well with your opinion. That "Gordon" guy, who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him, isn't the most reliable source of knowledge for example.

My comment was more along the lines of "that's bull shit about Battlefield 4 being that bad, and go play it because it's great!"

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firefox91

Settle down, Beavis. It was just a joke.

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The Mac

exactly, some ones sarcasm detector is OOC.

Personally, as Engle pointed out, i WANT the options, that's why i come here, and that's why ive been a print subscriber since boot.

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maleficarus™

"At the same time, the game has been so buggy since launch, the Chinese government may inadvertently be doing gamers a solid with this move."

Ok guys enough already! This has been blown way out of proportion. Other then the sound loop freeze bug that froze everyone's PC the game was no more buggy then BF3 when it first was released! Getting so sick and tired of people not knowing how to build stable gaming PC's then blaming EA for crashing all the time. Got news for you people! My system never crashes! So I guess that means it was not the game duh!

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AFDozerman

Yeah, same here. I have no clue what all of these issues are people are supposedly having...

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Paul_Lilly

Actually, the many bugs plaguing BF4 have been well documented up to this point, and we've experienced them ourselves.

It's fantastic that you're not having issues (honestly), but many others are.

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maleficarus™

If you were not SLI or CFX, and assuming your PC was running nice and stable and that it was not overclocked to the moon and back, the only 3 major issues with BF4 at first was 1) Sound loop freeze and 2) Blur effect with the EMP drone. and finally 3) missing sounds on some maps.

Other then that Paul, there was nothing else to cry home about and certainly not enough to justify bashing the game on websites such as MPC!! And I can say this because I have over 175 hours in so far in this game!!

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Rage1340

Calm down please, not everything in the world is about you. Take a second and breath, and when you are finally calm enough please realize that everyone has different experiences and as such Maximum PC usually goes with the majority opinion (aka not yours).

And YES the majority of battlefield 4 players due to the massive influx of complaints seem to have had issues. HENCE all the big publications talking about it. See how that works?

Your personal opinion is not a validation of your PC building skill either. You got lucky plain and simple. No one knew what hardware would work best with this game before launch.

So stop trying to sound like your the authority that gets to call when people are complaining too much. You make yourself look pathetic.

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maleficarus™

Got lucky? What a joke! I have a 2 year old CPU (i5 2500K) and a GTX 760! on a 500 watt power supply. How is that luck? Truth is, most if not all of the complaints are due to user config issues and not the game engine! Because logic dictates that is the game was just bad and buggy EVERYONE, not just a few thousand, but every single person that bought the game would have the exact same issues within the game be that game crashing or texture errors etc...

But that is not the case because clearly I have zero issues along with hundreds of thousands of other PC gamers across the world. You follow? See how this works?

Most so called PC gamers do not know how to build a PC worth a shit! I have build at least 15 of them over the years and not a single one of them had any issues...

So Rage let me ask you: Do I have the PC gawds on my side or could it be that what I claim is more realistic then tossing out blanket statements about EA and DICE?

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vrmlbasic

...why do we enable these morons again?

I wonder if Farnham's Freehold is banned there, though in that book Heinlein thought the Chinese would nuke us because we were isolationist and didn't see it coming. If only he had known that if the nukes should come in actuality that they'd be made via US money (and from US tech)...

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John Pombrio

Imagine getting arrested for playing a subversive video game, one that you have to steal in order to play it in the first place.

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PCWolf

LOL @ Moronic Chinese Government!

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OpTicaL

The Chinese government thinks buggy games are a threat to national security, they didn't ban BF3. The game probably crashed so goddamn much when they were reviewing it at The Ministry of Culture they decided to outright ban it because they were so pissed off. "Netcode it garbage! How am I supposed to train my army with this shit? BAN!"

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Led Weappelin

I love Chinese food.

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Engelsstaub

Mongolian Beef and an egg roll...that's where it's at.

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tonychow70

Those two things are not real Chinese food.

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The Mac

close enough for government work...