CES 2014: Nvidia Announces "Super Chip" Tegra K1 CPU

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Drew7

I think it's interesting that you guys are talking smack about AMD. Not only is AMD in all of the current-gen consoles, but... You do realize that this chip is only 1/3rd as powerful as an XBOX One... Nevermind the PS4. While those consoles wont beat a decent PC, the AMD Jaguar most certainly kills this, and it is also designed for mobile platforms. That's why Microsoft/Sony went with them~ Easy to cool, small form factor. And with all of those console contracts, AMD is far from "finished". Both Microsoft and Sony had record sales on their release dates... BIG record sales. And those consoles will be out there for the next 5-7 years. AMD has plenty of income on these consoles. Nevermind the PC market, where plenty of budget-minded folks buy AMD. Not everyone is an enthusiast. As a matter of fact, most people aren't. And Google is supposed to buy AMD??? That's news to me. Really???

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kixofmyg0t

Wait a minute, wasn't it just a few weeks ago that nvidia was screaming about how consoles are useless and PC's are much better blah blah blah....yet now want to be a part of the console party with Tegra K1? Could you possibly look even more butt hurt nvidia? Because its painfully obvious now.

A "radical leap over Tegra4" huh? Oh you mean the SoC YOU JUST LAUNCHED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO? The one that is failing miserably?

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AFDozerman

This is what I've been saying all along.

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Obsidian

All this at 5 watts of power?! I might be kicking myself for buying an ultrabook just a few weeks ago, but realistically these chips will probably be mobile-device-based for the foreseeable future. A discrete graphics core based on this technology is probably a year or more off.

Very impressive. The next Shield device better have this in it.

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PlayItOnPC

Discrete graphics are available with this technology NOW- they've been available for years. Nvidia took their Kepler architecture from their GPUs and reworked it to be used in a mobile platform.

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Innomasta

Let's see this in the new SHIELD, guys!

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Ghost XFX

Looking at that, AMD is about to become a spec on the horizon...as if they needed any more reasons to fall behind.

Also, with this, I wonder how far nVidia will take this chip? Will we start seeing games ran off the GPU alone int he near future? Will nVidia offer this chip as a stand alone for builders too, or just for consoles?

So many questions...

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shotgun-eddie

Look at the Maxwell architecture; it is to have an integrated Denver core. I wonder if they follow the traditional nvidia route and nerf the core in the gaming cards or not. They are apparently way ahead of schedule with Denver and it was not to appear in mobile until the tegra 6 which was to use the Denver and Maxwell graphics.

I don’t think AMD is done just yet. I got shares when it was at $3.50 a month ago. And I have a hunch they will be worth $6 or so when Google buys them out.

What do you all think they would use a Denver core inside a computer GPU for?

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Ghost XFX

While true that AMD has ARM (the mistress...) and they have the experience, take a good look at Kaveri. Does it look as good as Tegra K1? Experience is good, but if you're not putting anything into it, what you have is a mass of experience and not having learned from it.

Now, I've always pulled for AMD, but I'd be lying if I said they're doing spectacular, or even good in the CPU department. This stand alone from nVidia looks very good from a first time offering stand point.

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AFDozerman

I'm not saying that K1 isn't powerful or exiting (I would love for upgradable and standalone ARM components to come in and kick X86 in the balls), but Kaveri is incredible in its own right, and yes, it does look as good as the K1. Tegra was a tradoff that resulted from Nvidia opting for smaller CPU cores (these ARM cores are still smaller and less powerful than Piledriver) and a much larger GPU in a SoC. It's essentially the same concept that powers the consoles, and doesn't include the likes of HSA and Haswell's L4 to make the most of all of that compute power.

Yes, it does have a beefy GPU that will be great for mobile gaming, but traditional compute workloads aren't going to be anything spectacular (probably around modern Atom levels), whereas Kaveri is laying the foundation for active context switching and automatic parallelization at the compiler level that will make it much more powerful without even needing programmer input ( Java's project sumatra is a good example of the software side of how this will happen).

Yes, K1 is impressive and will make Nvidia a shitton of money, but that doesn't mean that others are sitting still.

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AFDozerman

"AMD is about to become a spec on the horizon"...cool story, bro. felt like I was there.

I guess one day, AMD will actually go out of buisness, if only from the built up negative karma of decades of people saying that they would go out of buisness. Be yea warned, though, that when that happens, it's going to be something so disruptive that Intel and Nvidia are brought to their knees, too; and no, Android is not that event. Remember, AMD has ARM, too, and has decades more experience building CPUs than Nvidia.

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CaptainFabulous

DING!

Sorry, but ARM and Android are not the future of gaming, no matter how badly Nvidia wants it to be because they can't compete in the x86 arena unless they buy VIA.

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AFDozerman

Actually, they can. There is some speculation that Denver is running an emulation layer on top of X86, allowing Windows and Windows software to run on it just like it was a standard X86 part. It just won't be powerful enough for anything great.

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Ninjawithagun

According to the details provided in the article and NVidia's press release, the new K1 chip will indeed be intended to be a stand-alone architecture. There will be two initial versions; a 32-bit chip, and the all-new 64-bit version with 192 cuda cores intact:

"The first version uses a 32-bit quad-core, 4-Plus-1™ ARM Cortex A15 CPU. The second version uses a custom, NVIDIA-designed 64-bit dual Super Core CPU. This CPU (codenamed "Denver") delivers very high single-thread and multi-thread performance. It is based on the ARMv8 architecture, which brings the energy-efficient heritage of ARM processor technology to 64-bit computing."

--http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Unveils-Tegra-K1-a-192-Core-Super-Chip-That-Brings-DNA-of-World-s-Fastest-GPU-to-Mobile-a8a.aspx--