Build a PC: Recommended Builds (July 2013)

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l2p

Guys my pc spec. is as below:
intel core i7 920 stock speed air cooled
MB gigabyte x58-ud7
1 tb wd raptor hdd
3 tb wd black
12 gb ram (corsair 1600)
GPU nvidia 470 gtx
case thermaltake armor+

my question is that should i assemble new pc or should i wait cuz i'm really confused and whether i buy amd 8350fx or Intel >> my usage is for hardcore gaming - programming :-)- photo editing and video editing and montage .. and what gpu is better specially i'm willing to configure 3 monitors ... and regarding the monitor what is the best monitor right now for gaming and all the above stuff with good response time as you know 2 ms is the best but it's TN panel and ips better but low response time and not 120 Hz . i will appreciate your advice to in light me

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TheGeekIsIn404

Hey guys I'm also new to PC building. I have a budget around $4000. For the GPU department, I'm going with two EVGA Dual Classified 780s w/ACX. For my CPU I was planning on using a liquid cooled (closed loop) i7-4770k on a Maximus VI Extreme, but now I'm wondering if I should go with a SNB-E CPU for the added power and ability to later upgrade to Haswell-E. Also, I'm using a 900D if it makes a difference. Thoughts?

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Garziaseb7

Hey guys im new to the whole pc building... So i am thinking, of building the baseline PC but instead of using the Intel Core i5-4670k could i use the Intel Core i7-3820 would it work?? Would it still be compatible with the other parts ??

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jbitzer

You'd need a different Motherboard.

The listed one supports the following chips:

http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4481

THis is the motherbord that will support the 3820:

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4050#

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Garziaseb7

Sorry , i have another question. So i change my motherboard to the GA-X79-UD3 and use the Intel Core i7 but is the motherboard and the CPU compatible with the other baseline parts like the cooler, GPU, RAM, Optical Drive...etc

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jbitzer

It should be. You can double check what is supported on newegg's product page and gigabyte's page.

The only thing you would have to worry about is the RAM speed, but it should be all compatible.

There are some good tutorials on this page for how to build your first rig.

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Garziaseb7

Thanks

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Garziaseb7

Thanks

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Blackheart-1220

I feel like building the Ultra but, why didn't you use the Corsair H110? and the P9X79 DELUXE is supposedly discontinued.

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xdeevex

Do you guys have any plans on doing a real budget build? I don't expect the baseline to be super cheap, or even sub-$1000, but I haven't seen any recommendations for a true budget build in a while.

Maybe you could do an entire article of multiple budget builds, based on the type of user or aesthetic of the PC. It would be cool to see two different builds for different price points. Two builds at sub-$600 and two builds at sub-$750, would be very interesting to see.

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tom_m

We did a three-way $750 budget battle in the June issue. I built around an FX-6300 and a 7870 GHz Edition. We included a ~$90 copy of Windows in each build, so you'll get different results if you already have one. Gordon also built around a 7870 GE, but he opted for an i5-3330P and a 32GB caching SSD. Chris built around an A6 APU and a GTX 670. Sub-$600 gets pretty tough if you include a Windows license in the build like we do.

In the magazine, we rotate through a set of four builds because we only have space for three. For this round, we drew from the September "Dream Machine" issue, which actually isn't out yet. Our August issue currently on store shelves has the budget build, and it comes in at $728.

Individual issues are $7.99, but you can get a 13-issue sub for $10.99. The version on Google Play also gives you a 14-day free trial :)

Here's the URL: http://bit.ly/12yEZuZ

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xdeevex

Awesome! Thanks for the info. I'll definitely check it out.

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Athebasca

Concerning the Ultra build, would someone please tell me the item #'s for the RAM and GPU ? I'm sorry to ask this but there are quite a few to choose from and i'm really not sure which one to select. Any help on this matter would be appreciated.

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tom_m

For gaming, you have a lot of leeway. As long as it's 1600MHz with CAS9 or even CAS10 latency, you're fine. (Things like video encoding, meanwhile, benefit from faster sticks.) This system uses a water cooler, so you don't need to worry about low-profile versus fancy heat spreaders. But we do recommend four sticks to take advantage of LGA 2011's quad-channel memory architecture. It won't be a huge boost, but four sticks are usually only a little bit more than two (assuming the same total capacity), and these boards still have four empty slots after that, making it easy to add more.

Also, Corsair will frequently create a specific SKU just for a color variation, rather than for different specs.

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iplayoneasy

i7 3820 passmark: 9014.
FX 8350 passmark: 9125.

;)

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nadako

This summer intel had an amazing deal on the 3930k for retail employees. I got it for $170 then bought the Gigabyte GA-X79S-UP5-WIFI from newegg and it came with an 8GB stick for free over all I paid $500 for an amazing upgrade. also the old 3770k was running at $85.

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tom_m

That is a pretty amazing deal!

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warptek2010

AMD FX8350 can definitely go in my baseline rig and save some scratch on the motherboard choice here too. You can insist on calling it budget all you want, I don't care.

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pastorbob

"AMD FX8350 can definitely go in my baseline rig and save some scratch on the motherboard choice here too."

I was torn when I wanted to upgrade my 2500K system. I seriously considered the FX8350, but in the end went with an i7-2700K, simply because it was only a CPU swap and I found a brand new one for $30.00 less than what used ones were going for on ebay. Saved me the hassle of reinstalling everything from scratch due to the CPU family/motherboard switch. Not quite the performance of an FX8350 but it blows my old 2500K out of the water, especially when encoding video.

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nadako

Its sad that the old i5 still beats the FX8350

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pastorbob

"Its sad that the old i5 still beats the FX8350"

In what universe? Every benchmark I read says just the opposite.

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iplayoneasy

Here ya go. In multithread the performance computer loses to an fx 8350. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3820+%40+3.60GHz

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ShinRenNu

Anybody can build an ULTRA Gaming PC, all you need is money. Its more complicated to assemble and buy with limited budget for the entry level.

This is the area where you guys should focus, not all readers here can even get to that baseline. I for one only using 7750 for GPU. And I'll be grateful if you can spare me of your old GPU cards ;P

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burntham77

It's also tough to build a quiet budget gaming machine I am finding. I like the challenge though.

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pastorbob

ShinRenNu, I agree with you mostly. If I were building that system I would use my existing case, power supply, graphics card, memory, optical drives, OS and storage. That would bring the build down to a manageable price and I would still be improved considerably over my existing i5-2500K system. So I would essentially be buying just a motherboard, CPU, CPU Cooler, and SSD.

But to build the system from scratch would be outside my budget as well.

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aarcane

I think it'd be nice if you'd post alternate configuration options for AMD vs. Intel and nVidia vs. AMD in the various price points. I'm a total intel + nVidia fanboy, so I can totally appreciate 2/3 of your picks, but I know some people swing the other way, and would like recommendations that suit their tastes as well :)

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wumpus

When the baseline is over $1k, you pretty much don't want any AMD CPUs in your build (if you plan on buying after July 31, check to see how a pair of 7950s microstutter. There should be releasing drivers that "fix" that on that date).

I remember pricing out a build to compete with the PS3 when it was released. From memory it used an AMD CPU (pretty much any non-Atom CPU would do, so I went with the cheapest quad AMD job) and a nvidia GPU (probably due to a sale that week, but the "correct board" the 7770 would blow the budget way beyond the PS3).

The use of 8 AMD cores in both the PS3 and Xbone make the idea of an i3 questionable for console ports. Sure, an i3 can likely run 4 threads as fast as 4 bobcats on each core, but there is still plenty of overhead on the switching. You would be better off (I hope AMD got it that right, nowadays I can't even be that sure) using more cores on the AMD side. This shouldn't affect i5 buyers at all.

[tl;dr]
AMD CPU + dual 7950s might replace baseline in a month.
AMD CPU + budget GPU if you can't swing $1k.

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chadlnc

How does the 7950 in the baseline stack up against the GTX 760? Was the 760 too knew to make the cut in this issue?

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chadlnc

So I do actually know (or should I say no) the difference between knew and new, guess I should proofread next time.

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tom_m

Yeah, the GTX 760 arrived relatively late this month. As far as I can tell, the two cards are roughly comparable at 1080p. The 7950 gets a bit of an edge for the extra 1GB of VRAM (handy for texture packs and other mods) and the "Never Settle" game bundle. But the 760 usually costs less. If you prefer Nvidia, I'd stick with the 760 at that tier.

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GaryIKILLYOU

Thanks for the clarification guys!

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Julian Reiche

Hey Gary I will definetly tell the team to start looking into having a budget build closer to the $700 range for our next issues.

In the meantime I would suggest forgeting the SSD (save $100) Use your windows license from your old machine (-$100) downgrade the CPU to a Core i5-4430 (-$45) forget the optical drive and go digital download only (-$16) Go with the stock CPU cooler as you cant over clock the CPU (-$32) and maybe swap out your mother board for somthing like a MSI Z87-G45 (-$30)

That would bring the budget down to about $800

 

That is a quick and dirty version of how you could get close to your budget, but I will start bugging our componet master (Tom) to start looking into this :)

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wumpus

Note that the "old windows license" trick isn't supposed to work with the $88 buy. The $50 windows 8 preview upgrade *will* transfer, but I have no idea how to do that (hopefully it is possible as well as legal).

The SSD may well be the most critical piece of performance, it is one of those thing you really notice outside of gaming, and definitely inside gaming while the levels load. I think I would switch to an AMD chip (and I'm pretty certain I am using my last AMD chip...) before giving up my SSD.

The optical drive is non-negotiable. Backups can either go on the DVD-R or USB sticks. The DVD-Rs are much cheaper and tend to allow you to dig through multiple backups to find the right file. I'd hate to only have a couple of images, regardless of the limits between 32G sticks vs. 4G DVD-Rs (and enough 32G sticks will kill the budget).

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jbitzer

I bought the upgrade (I think, it was about $35) and I can do a fresh install on it.

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GaryIKILLYOU

Pretty impressive except even your baseline breaks $1K.
I know there are a good bit that can afford to throw that kind of money into just a computer, but many many many more can't.

Just saying, but in '09 your baseline dream machine didn't break $700 and was quite a bit powerful, too. I know, because I bought that exact computer based on your recommendations so I could put myself through college with a good, powerful, but affordable computer.

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jimmthang

Hey Gary,

We try to alternate between doing a budget (sub 1k$) and baseline rig. Be rest assured that we will eventually post a cheaper rig!

Jimmy