Build a PC: Recommended Builds (August2014)

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Jim123

I use steam for my PC games and only install 1 at a time my HD use is never more than 80 gig. I have a raid 0 120 ssd and 120 ssd no conventional drive, this setup smokes at low cost. Any thought to maybe add this to the high end plan. I can't see ever going back once you experience this.

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michtnaughton1983

I had 2 systems with z97 boards one was the fatality z97x killer edition sl1, I bought the 3258 so I could flip the pc fast and mess around with OC as I waited for it to sale. I have 3d mark extreme benchmarks higher the 15 4670k systems, My second one was the z97-hd3 gigabyte board and it also had high benchmarks with dual msi 7950 3gddr5, I currently have another gigabyte board with the 15 4670k and another one with the i3 4150 the I3 when it comes to gaming and single threaded situations has nothing on the g3258 but if browsing and downloading while other stuffs going on its easy to see why the single threaded performance is so one track minded, But Theroy, the I5 60k and 90k, both have the same setup 4 cores 4 threads. Hyper threading is taken and the lm3 is eliminated I believe also, the i7ks are the only k with 2 threads per core specs being 4 cores 8 threads+ht. That being said if there was a k model I3 it would probably follow the I5 protocol making it exactly what the G3258 is 2 cores single threads and cc of up to 4.7, That being said Intel went ahead and dropped the ddr3 controller to a maximum of 1333, when the other new Pentium starting the one rite above JR devils canyon3258 runs ddr3 at 1600, IT ALL MARKTING ITS DRIVES ME NUTS INTEL IS SO FAR AHEAD OF THE GAME THEY CAN PULL THIS STUFF AND I STAY UPSET< BUT ON THE INSIDE AND THIS POST. They need to make a K series that hits 2 under 100$, Then starting in the i3's allow for hyperthreading, AMD would slowly fade away im sick of 8 core cpus saling so fast but not running as good as some higher I3 dualies or lower I5's its sad "the world is core count drunk" ignorance.

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Jim123

I saw on a hardware site that most games still mainly rely on single core for most of their benchmark and Intel kicks AMD butt on single core speed.

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Casecutter

Hexus, reported there could be three new FX 8-series introduced in Sept, along with price-cuts on other FX series parts. Could make thing interesting.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/73365-amd-set-slash-fx-cpu-pricing-september-1/

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LatiosXT

I think for a "budget" gaming rig, the Pentium G3258 should be the CPU. It has respectable performance by itself for a pittance ($70) and if you pair it with a Z87/97, you can overclock it to i3 levels easily.

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Casecutter

Yea that's why I was checking out their Budget build this time. I understand your point, but if you have to buy a Z87/97 mobo to do the overclock (some H81 mobo have been able to also provide limited OC'n) and cooler to get i3 performance IDK. You get a FX-6300 any average 970 mobo on a stock cooler and your above a i3 stock. Adding $40 to get into a Z87 and another $25 for a cooler changes the G3258 equation. Heck you could just get the i3 and any H61, and not OC it recieveing almost same/better while skipping the hassle of those beginer builders. And at that point a FX-6300 still has a good more merit as a gaming CPU, while if what to get into OC'n the FX-6300 can offer that also with a cooler and working from the 970 mobo.
The FX-6300 is still hanging in there...

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dgrmouse

It's pretty disgusting to see MaxPC recommend AMD CPUs for a gaming PC at any price range. Beholden to advertisers much, or just incompetent?

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popetorak

I agree!

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Mediziner

Welp, I hope you're a troll.

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Blues22475

If I remember correctly, there was a month without any AMD chips and people complained about the lack thereof. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I used AMD for quite some time and it handled everything I threw at it with ease (I think it was a Phenom II X4 965 Black) Recently upgraded to a i5 4670k and didn't see much difference other than the data transfers are handled better on my old setup (which I don't think has much to do with the CPU).

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nick779

Sounds like someone has never used an AMD chip before.

Theres nothing wrong with a 6350 or 8350 for people who want to go that route.

I like intel and ill probably stay intel, but that doesnt mean that AMD cant game.

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wkwilley2

Is it really disgusting? As in, it makes you sick to your stomach?

There's nothing wrong with AMD Fx chips for budget gaming. I use a FX-4300 in my PC, and it does just fine with anything I throw at it.

Quit being so biased.

MPC tried to give us options.....not everyone wants an Intel chip in their PC.

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dgrmouse

The i3-4130 is a better gaming chip than the $120 AMD chip at the same price. Expecting each build to offer the best value for the price does not make me biased. Recommending an AMD system that performs worse than an Intel system of the same price is disgusting.

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PsychFilms

Where's the Intel 4930K for the Turbo Build??

Here's my saved config at Digital Storm ($3380)

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm VIRTUE
Processor: Intel Core i7 4930K 3.4GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair CX
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 840 PRO)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 840 EVO)
Internet Access: Wireless PCI-E ASUS PCE-N53 (Dual Band Performance) (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Graphics Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (Outputs: 1x DVI-I ; 1x DVI-D ; 1x DisplayPort ; 1x HDMI)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Boost Processor: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (64-Bit Edition)

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nick779

What a waste, a 4930 and a single 780 non TI.

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eaglex01

or.. just wait 2-3 months and get the new 870? it will outperform the 780 ti for way cheaper... ;)

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JosephColt

Budget:

Not bad.

Mid-grade:

Meh.

Turbo build has some issues.

* Average Power Supply
* If you are not going to SLI you can get a higher quality power supply for less, and you do need 1000 watts.
* Western Digital hard drivers are more reliable.
* For less you could have build an equally powerful mini-itx system.
* Blu-ray burners fill a very niche market, and that isn't really necessary.
*Ugly case.

If the turbo build is going be more of a realistic mid range gaming PC then the following would be better for the price in my opinion.

Corsair 250D
WD Green 4TB
Asus GTX 780 3GB
Corsair AX760
G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB
Asus Maximus VI Impact Z87 (Place holder for z97 version)
Intel I7 4970K
Corsair H105
Samsung Evo 500GB

$1,979.41 on Newegg(before tax). Smaller, not ugly, and has some better options. If you want SLI then go M-atx.

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Vine_ST

Hey now, I'm not taking any pointers from people who call the Phantom 530 ugly.
Two can play this game ;)

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JosephColt

:D Well you've got me on that...

Cases are definitely personal preference. I prefer the minimalist designs instead of the overly exaggerated looks.

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nick779

WD greens suck. They park the head every 7 seconds and have loads of premature failures. Black, blue, or go home.

The Corsair AX line of power supplies are pretty pathetic, look at the reviews on newegg and amazon at all of the issues they have.
The EVGA Supernova G2 is based off of the Super Flower Leadex platform and currently has the best ripple suppressing and voltage regulation out there. In depth reviews are on overclock.net.

Whats the point of having a 4970k and only a single 780? Socket 2011 boards and CPUs are built for SLI/xfire because they have many more PCIe pipes than a standard LGA1150 socket board and support full x16 on 2 cards. Check the benchmarks.

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JosephColt

I have over 30 green drives, and over 40 red drivers for back up currently. Greens have lasted me years now. If they do not fail in the first month of use then they will generally last for along time. They are good for backup, accessing media, and most games. Blacks do not perform that much better than greens for accessing files for most games. I can Stream music, HD content, and anything else from a Green well. Why do you think there is a SSD? -You don't typically use black or blues as a second drive if you have a 500GB SSD.

Corsair AX760 line is built by Seasonic and a very good power supply, I use the AXi versions myself though. This build does not call for the highest quality power supply with a 2000 dollar limit only though.

Intel Core i7-4790K is a 1150 processor, not a 2011. You can can get a 2011 board if you do want SLI or SLI or Crossfire, but their top build isn't very Ultra. I selected a comparable build that is small and looks better. You can also just get a cheaper processor too if you want.

This was a build at a comparable price with comparable hardware with some better options. You could build a standard ATX system with SLI for a lot cheaper too.

You are full of shit.

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LatiosXT

While I agree WD greens shouldn't be used for normal hard drive use, they're useful for say a backup drive. And the head parking doesn't make them inherently faulty (if you're going to defend that assertion, I expect a lengthy post with citations from people who know what they're talking about).

At least there's a way to change it and people have done that, used WD Greens in servers, and reported a wonderful experience.

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JosephColt

I use Greens and Reds, both perform well. The head parking certainly isn't an issue like you stated, and these are not drives for primary drive use, and which is why the build I posted above includes a 500GB SSD.

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dgrmouse

Good critique.

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Dirk_Kuyt

U might want to change those CPUs to 4690k and 4790k. That's could confuse someone with the 4960x

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

How about a motherboard with USB 3.1 and 6 Gbps SATA ports, exclusively? That would be something worth upgrading to. That, and a single graphics card that can run Metro 2033 at 4K without ever once dropping below 60 fps. Man, I love smoking crack....

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Dirk_Kuyt

Crap are u for real? I just ordered a z97x ud5h and an fx-6300 and now youre saying they're not compatible????? Great.........

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ogmc1979

THE BIOSTAR MOBO COST $ 79.99 NO REBATES .THAT MEANS $80 DLLRS. NOT $60

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ogmc1979

in The Budget Build ,you need to check compatibility between motherboard and processor ,cause you guys mixed Intel Mobo with AMD processor. ???CHECK IT..

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Dirk_Kuyt

hey max pc, you can't use a z97 motherboard with an amd FX cpu. And that ud5h mobo is definitely not $60. did you guys even try?

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tom_m

Had the wrong label on that motherboard, thanks for catching that!

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mattman059

In the Turbo Description:
Intel Core i7-4970K != Intel Core i7-4790 :P