Biostar Pushes TB85 Motherboard at Gamers and Bitcoin Miners

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aarcane

I'd just like if all manufacturers could figure out how to either make all x<16 slots open ended (and clear of caps), or x16 long. Don't USUALLY care about the logical X-ness of a slot unless you're sticking a graphics card in it, but some niceties like LSI SAS cards (Great for ZFS Arrays or WELL performing RAID arrays of Samsung 840EVOs), insist on 8x slots even if you're not saturating them.

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Innomasta

Has anyone here ever had any luck with Biostar? I keep seeing them as a cheapest of the cheap brand where quality is not a priority. Am I correct in this assumption?

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devin3627

i had one of their really cheap boards and it still works but i upgraded. 4-5 years.

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definingsound

Why does Maximum PC keep referring to motherboards as a "slice of silicon"? This is the third product review I've seen with this moniker.

A motherboard is made of fiberglass and resin, with copper traces. It is not sliced silicon.

Etched slices of silicon are contained in a chip package, and yes there are some chip packages on a motherboard, but this is not how Maximum PC is using the term.

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evga760

lol, i feel bad for your family if your this^ critical irl

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praetor_alpha

From what I've heard, all the Bitcoin mining moved to external custom ASICs a long time ago. Many other *coins have also.

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AFDozerman

Well, yes and no. Bitcoin uses a particular encryption scheme that is easily made parallel and accelerated through ASICs (256 something. Can't remember). Since then, scrypt and other schemes have come about that are much harder to accelerate through an ASIC. Although a GPU is still faster, an ASIC doesn't yet exist that is faster than one for scrypt mining.

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compro01

Bitcoin uses SHA-256.

Scrypt is difficult to make an ASIC for as it's a memory-intensive hash function specifically designed to make a custom hardware attack (which is basically what a mining ASIC is, just pointed at a different purpose) difficult.

But actually, there now exist scrypt ASICs that will outperform any GPU. The best GPU (7990, watercooled and heavily overclocked) manages about 1.5Mhash/s. The Zeusminer thunder ($1600) will manage about 22Mhash/s (i.e. 15x as fast). And that's while drawing only about twice as much power as a GPU, making it 8.5x as efficient.

If you buy what KnCMiner says, they've got an scrypt ASIC system that will manage about 250Mhash/s coming out in a month or two at about $10k.

GPUs will shortly be as obsolete for scrypt-based coin mining as they are for bitcoin mining.

Won't stop these companies from advertising shovels to the gullible though.

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devin3627

this guy is a hero, his information is correct today and not out-dated like most of you f*cking assholes who comment.

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LatiosXT

Wow, butthurt much?

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AFDozerman

Most GPGPU is going to require higher bandwith than x1 unless your kernel is churning over gigs of data only to return a bool :)

bool GPUKern(*point_to_array)
{
//iterate over array
if(everything_in_array_meets_condition)
{
return true;
}

else{
return false;
}
}

Eww...

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LatiosXT

Unless someone makes PCI-Express x1 video cards, those slots don't have cutouts to accept larger cards. At least from what I can see.

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aarcane

You've obviously never even researched hardcore mining. You stick 6-8 high end graphics cards on X1->X16 ribon riser cards, and mount the double wide graphics cards nowhere near the motherboard. Often in fact motherboards only have 1-2 x16 slots, which are used with a PCIE fanout connector. It requires some special motherboard support, but allows each x1 lane in the x16 slot to go to a separate device. The X1 bus is sufficient for bitcoin because the bitcoin mining process is CPU intensive, but not memory intensive. A very small portion of time is actually spent transferring data over the bus.

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LatiosXT

Okay. But it'd just be easier for Biostar (who's on the bottom of recommendations) to make a cut-out on that slot than for someone to spend even more money they'll need to wait forever to mine back on riser cables and a custom mounting setup.

Or hell, I'm pretty sure I could do it with a dremel.

Because you know, way to miss the point.