Best Cheap Graphics Card: Asus Radeon HD 7790 vs. EVGA GTX 650 Ti Boost

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aarcane

Judging by your chosen categories, you're discounting the ONE category that matters (Performance) because you favour a couple of insignificant extras over pure maximum performance.

This article is full of fail.

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Casecutter

Typical Maximum BS... First a comparison of a GTX650Ti Boost to a 7790 is dumb! "Extremely similar" they’re not! To even imply someone would consider needing to pay anywhere south of $125 today for a 7790 after rebates is misleading. While looking at GTX650Ti Boost 2Gb your looking $150-160, still working rebates.

The only thing that is truthful, is Nvidia was extremely blessed with the fact they had the GTX650Ti Boost version in the queue for release, and it bested the 7790 in performance releasing only a few days later. That was a true coup that Nvidia hit AMD with. Had Nvidia released 3 weeks later it all would've been non- controversy.

Sure it was amazing how AMD didn't see it coming and adjust the MSRP to $140 from day one! Or, should've understood there would be a difference to the performance/price equation and gone with perhaps a Bios change before packaging, but that's tougher. Given the low power and huge OC'n why did AMD not go with furthering the clocks than the reference 1Ghz and top clocks of 1075Mhz? Prior to release it was hinted AMD didn't want to encroach into the 7850 1Gb sales, but once the card showed it was clear it wasn't at all intruding on the 7850. There was plenty of room to up the clocks, or at release priced perhaps 10% less. Either way once in the market, not even 3 weeks later pricing quickly adjusted.

Here's the my take right today... A super "Entry Level" gaming card that permits 1080p resolution abate with settings dialed down. True, not quite the performance GTX650Ti Boost but that's bested by a 7850 2Gb for the same money. Either are priced accordingly and summon 25-30% more cost than the 7790 and that's huge! The other is PSU a 7790 would not tax any lower grade PSU with a 6-pin. While step up to either of those bottom rung 2Gb (GTX650Ti Boost/7850) and you need to be attentive to the PSU you pair with them.

I think the winning choice of the 7790 was correct as "best cheap card". It's just that their "contrasts" are way bigger and not fair to either. They are different cards to serve different segments, and other than AMD's original MSRP being out of line, they now fill respective positions. The right perspective is the 7790 vs. the GTX650Ti (non-Boost) and in the contest there's again a clear winner.

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Arnulf

Extremely similar ? These two cards are not just similar, they are 'extremely similar' ... except for difference in memory size options, memory bus width, clock speed and power consumption; with exception of these they are extremely similar. Oh and one is faster than the other ... but they are 'extremely similar'.

Seriously MPC, when reviewing hardware just try to be objective - personal opinions are the selling point for Dailytech, if I wanted to read them I'd visit their website.

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iplayoneasy

AMD released the 7790 because it's the gpu in the PS4. If you think about it then, every x86 programmed console game will have this gpu's architecture in mind quite soon. If you had to choose between the 650ti and the 7790, I think this fact alone would warrant the 7790 as a smarter buy. We'll have too see.

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kixofmyg0t

Wrong.

The PS4's GPU has 18 GCN units, or 1152 shaders. It's smack dab in the middle of the 7850(16 GCN units) and 7870(20 GCN units) in hardware layout. It could technically be called a 7860.

The 7790 has 896 shaders. You meant to say that's what the Xbox One has.

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iplayoneasy

1/2 Wrong

256 of those cores are running on the APU.

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kixofmyg0t

Yeah you're gonna have to give a source for that claim.

Because you seemed to have missed official announcements from both Sony and Microsoft where they explained in great detail that the PS4 has a APU with 8 CPU cores, and 1,152 shaders(all on one chip...an APU) and the Xbox One has a APU with 8 CPU cores with 896 shaders.

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PCWolf

I prefer Single GPU's as I'm not a big fan of SLI/Crossfire due to it's use of "Profiles". & Also, I don't like AMD's Drivers. It's like they are written by idiots or First Year Students. Here are my current issues with AMDs & Nvidia's graphics Drivers based on my personal experiences.

AMD
1: New Drivers claiming to support older cards have a bad habit of not installing properly.
2: Installer cannot be used on 600x800 monitors due to the Install window being too big & unresizable.
3: Open GL drivers on older cards (HD4000 series & down) were a bad joke. (Don't know if the new ones work any better)
4: Driver Uninstaller refuses to work in Safe Mode.
5: ATI Uninstaller leaves behind a lot of DLL files after a uninstall.

NVidia
1: Drivers had a nasty habit of crashing or not responding causing the drivers to reset & a Loss of Sound when using HDMI Audio.

2: Current drivers cause my Nvidia GTX 560 to randomly locks up the system for 5-10 seconds (including the mouse pointer), then restarting the computer. Problem is so bad, it forced me to go back to using v301.42 Anything after that is either a "Driver stopped responding" or a "System hard lock & restart"

Seems these Companies are starting to use Creative's Business Model for older hardware: "Great Hardware, Crappy Drivers"

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AFDozerman

Agreed about the whole profiles thing. Makes it too easy for money to play a part in game performance and benchmarks when one game Dev can just say "Hey, my friend Benjamin Franklin and a few other of his friends would really like to see that other game over there not do so good".

Hopefully, in the future, these next generation raytracing game engines that use OpenCL instead of traditional rendering APIs will alleviate these problems. The brigade game engine can use up to eight mixed and matched GPUs to render the game image with no profiles or special connectors between cards.

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vrmlbasic

Those must be first year students in the world's most hard-core CS program as nowadays even Java is considered too "scary" for first years.

You're judging AMD's graphics by how they were 4+ years ago, and were still ATI?! An 800*600 monitor?! Talk about the olden days!

I agree about multi-GPU setups: I always figured that the drivers would have a "default" way to use all the GPUs in the event that a special profile didn't exist (like it was with 3dfx) but that isn't the case; (the horribly optimized) MechWarrior Online will crash, often to the point where only a reset can fix it, if I play that game with Crossfire enabled as it has no profile. The crashing shouldn't happen.

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kixofmyg0t

So the 7990 wins every test against a 650 Ti Boost except performance....

TIL that AMD's dual GPU 7990 is slower than nVidia's bargain bin GPU.

/s

*Ahem, thar be typo's in them thar hills.

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Wait a sec..."First, the AMD card is only available in 1GB flavors;"

Oh really?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121772
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202033
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125454

I'm pretty sure you used the 2GB and didn't even know it. In fact im positive since you list the price of that 7790 as $149. The 1 GB version is $129 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121727

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Bdiddytampa

The label for this article says "This feature was originally featured in the June 2013 issue of the magazine." So that means this was in the magazine that was released in May, which means it was probably written in April when there were very different prices and availability... Try reading the timeline of an article before criticizing :-)

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Casecutter

And why no self-respecting literary should regurgitate something that perhaps was relevant in April as "noteworthy" in September without updates. It was inaccurate in June 2013, however reviving it now is plainly despicable.

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kixofmyg0t

April you say....that's still long after the 7790 launched in 1GB and 2GB versions for....$149.99.

Hell you can find plenty of reviews for the 7790 dating back to march that show 2GB versions with a MSRP of $149. The 1GB versions have been under $140 since July.

No excuse.

Plus if you REALLY want to know what's the best "cheap" GPU(I'm assuming under $150 is "cheap" now) it's the Radeon 7850

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

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elven1assasin

true KixoFMYG0t has a point new egg sells an amd 2gb version lol

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elven1assasin

LOL ok so we are comparing the AMD 7790 vs the EVGA GTX 650 Ti Boost and the AMD 7990 wins on three things lol maybe you should review the article by more than one person before submitting