Vista Activation Strikes Again - Time to Fight Back

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WesInSV

Where is the "how to" on how to reset the 30 days of activation? I'd seen it somewhere ... in print.

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Marcus_Soperus

Brian Livingston is just one of many sources describing the use of slmgr to reset the activation clock: http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070215/#story1
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Marcus_Soperus

The Contacts page at Microsoft.com is one place to start complaining about Vista product activation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;CNTACTMS

It might also be useful to complain to Microsoft's public relations (PR) firm, Waggoner-Edstrom (W-E).

Microsoft's PR contacts page is at http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/PR_Contacts.mspx

See the general contact list for W-E at http://www.waggeneredstrom.com/we_worldwide/contact_us.asp

See the Microsoft PR contacts page for W-E phone numbers relating to various Microsoft product families.

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HeartBurnKid

As if intrusive DRM mechanisms on media weren't enough, now you can't change a device driver without the OS throwing a hissy fit?

Sorry, but I have better things to do with my time than sit on hold to try to convince some CSR that I'm not a thief. I'll stick with XP for now, and switch to Linux sometime between now and when Microsoft grows the balls to end-of-life it.

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Pinkyblister

All right everyone: some people out there should have websites, email addresses, street addresses, and phone numbers to complain to Microsoft. I would appreciate anyone who has such to post them here and in the MPC Forum as well. Complaints sometime work with Microsoft-something needs to be done now.

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dave23d

You could also demand a VISTA refund if you wanted too.

Love Linux and 3D Linux Games :)

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dave23d

Linux rocks. Oh, its free and you can always try to see if you MS Apps work on linux, by using WINE.

Otherwise you can use a VM to run both Linux and Windows XP at the same time :-)

Thats a win win for everybody.

Love Linux and 3D Linux Games :)

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Morichalion

I don't get why people are harping on the joy of running Mac OSX. It's been my experience that Apple is pretty iron-fisted on how their hardware and software can be used...


That being said, I have no idea why anyone really, REALLY needs vista.
The only reason that comes to my mind, even if I'm thinking REALLY hard about it, is playing bleeding-edge games at launch. Almost everything else can be done w/ free software.

If you absolutely MUST run a particular kind of application, see if it can run on a different operating system. I mean, most of the people I talk to only use a web-browser, an email client, and a word processor. Occasionally, they'll do some image editing or use a spreadsheet. Download Ubuntu, and you have all that. The learning curve is slightly steeper, but your savings can run on up into the thousands of dollars, depending on the software you need.


If you don't mind waiting a 'till a little bit after launch (and maybe learning a little bit, too) you can even run your games on linux with WINE. Okay, this solution isn't worry-free, since the game studios aren't supporting WINE, but you can look at WINE's website to see if any of your games'll run.

Granted, There are those applications that WILL NOT run on anything but a Windows or Apple platform, so switching to linux might not be the best solution. But w/ the pain people are feeling with windows, they really should step back and see what other options there is out there.

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Scrubs

This is all well and good, except for the fact that some updates needed to establish a stable Vista environment aren't even available until you've activated, so you're taking a risk doing the activation. Luckily it worked for me, but could have gone the other way and then I'd have been ditching MS entirely.

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pcfxer

Ergo, Mac OS X. Now why can't Apple see the slight extension of using and supporting OS X on PCs? Apple could Drop support for old computers like Pentium Ds and such and only support new hardware just like their own comps.

That said, OS X is based off of BSD and the mach kernel so most of the support for old hardware is built into OS X.

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Marcus_Soperus

I agree. MacOS X has driver support for both Intel and AMD processors, and with MS's missteps on rolling out Vista (and supporting Windows XP users), they could make a bundle by opening up MacOS X.

Another benefit to users of having a second commercial OS on the table is that Microsoft would realize it no longer has a monopoly - and would probably drop a lot of its anti-consumer activation policies - and build a better OS.

DOS old-timers might remember how bad MS-DOS had gotten by version 4.0. Then, Digital Research's DR-DOS 5 came out and actually beat MS-DOS 4.0 in features and capabilities in almost every way. Microsoft's MS-DOS 5.0 "borrowed" a lot of features from its competitor, and Microsoft once again took the DOS market seriously - thanks to serious competition

Some would say that Linux will provide the same competition for Windows, but I don't think it will until we see a breakout distro, complete driver support, and broad application support that the public knows about. Right now, Linux is still perceived as a "propellorhead" product without mass appeal.
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elburro

You guys forget one thing. Apple is even more controlling than Microsoft is. Apple wants to tell people what hardware to use, how to use it, and when to use it. They wouldn't even let people install 3rd party apps on thier iphone untill they were preety much forced to.

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dannysob

That's one of many reasons is better to have cracked version instead of buying, something like wow.

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