Vibram FiveFingers Bikila Review

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kzinti1

I subscribed to MaximumPC for the Personal Computer content.

If I had seen THIS crap I would have never wasted my money. What do shoes(!) have to do with a PC?

Are all of you so completely stupid to realize the answer is "Nothing Whatsoever"?

On top of that, your Reviews are definitely biased. Can you spell Payola scam? Google "payola scams."

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esampson

I'm interested to check out those vibram shoes, ugly or not.  Might end up being a waste of money, but I've heard good things from some pretty decent runners I know.  What I don't get is how these aren't making the history of shoes at this site. 

http://www.become.com/resource-center/infographic/shoes.html

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aureliusss

Was wondering what the dollar cost of these things are and if they are generally available. I hope I didn't miss it. Usually MPC has the dollar value listed so ...

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atomaweapon

I own a pair of these older ones.

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smashingpumpin

There's a reason "read more" hyperlink exist!

This was meant for MaxTech anyways so no weird looks here, but... I sure hope you guys would never even think about implementing another link/mini-site post Maximum TECH solely dedicated to Apple aptly named "Maximum Apple" or maybe "Silver Delicious Apple".

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right before clicking SAVE, I felt a presence behind me with a knife saying "CAPTCHA BITCH!"

 

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SininStyle

Why so hostile about an article ? Why did you stop and read it if you didnt care about the topic? Did they some how bait and switch you into thinking there was a computer involved with a huge picture of shoes that had toes?

 

Besides that do you think some guy used a stick and some dirt to draw this idea up? More then likely it was worked on a computer for years being refined in 3d. Then after being made they had a human run in them with a (you guessed it) computer hooked up to them to see if there was any improvements .

 

Dont worry though I am sure your whining has been heard and they will think twice about a story that wont interest 100% of their readers next time.

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immersive

I have had a sub for about 8 years to MPC and love this article. Although it is not related to PC tech it is more then welcome on this website. 

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nadako

Im still wondering how much these shoes cost.

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schneider1492

i bet ins over $100

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mjstone45

As soon as I saw this article, I knew there would be some ranting about "PC-->P-->C"

Although I do think that shoes are quite a bit of a stretch, I dont mind, and like to see all the other non-pc tech related stories.

Unlike others, I just registered to say that this site is doing great.  While most stories interest me, not everything interests me...but guess what, I just move on to the next story (shocker)

To stay on the story however, I had heard a lot of good reviews about these shoes will hopefully be getting some myself here shortly(hopefully before it gets cold and I lose motivation to go outside and run)

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rex2323

I think they are just explaing the high techyness of the shoes, and how technology has extended toward every aspect of or lives.  I really didn't expect people to attack an article so much.  I think telling them nicely that you didn't like to topic of the article will suffice without verbally assaulting the web-site writers.

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JohnP

 There are a lot of advantages of going barefoot than pretty much everyone does not know.

1. The human foot was NOT designed for wearing shoes! Pinched toes, awkward stride, and bruised heels and knees are the worst offenders. Not one study has shown that running shoes PROTECT feet. In fact, the running shoe promotes bad behavior (like taking long strides).

2. Running barefoot is NOT about speed, it is about endurance. Our ancestors were not running marathons, they were chasing down and wearing out wild animals. The reason horses were wiped out in the americas was that human hunters ran them down over days! The human form was created (by evolution of course) for long distance running and tool use.

3. Back in 1912, the Army published a book about soldiers feet (The soldier's foot and the military shoe by Edward Munsen), and found that, not surprisingly, boots were poorly designed and that soldiers were taught how to march improperly. It avocated a wider boot, not much arch support and (most importantly) a SHORTER stride. If you watch any modern army double time it, look how short their stride is. That comes directly from the book.

4. Motion studies of people who grow up without shoes run quite differently than our "must wear shoes" civilization. They either land in the middle of the foot or on the balls of the foot, NEVER on the heel. Their toes are also spread much wider than our "toes squished in shoes". They rarely have achilles tendon problems.

Now going WITHOUT any foot protection is bad just because we no longer live in grasslands. Also many poor countries have nasty issues with worms and nematodes coming through their bare feet. So these shoes or a plain pair of flat sandals works to prevent ground or terrain caused injuries.

So go barefoot if the ground permits it, use the vibrams or flat sandals, and SHORTEN your stride! A shorter stride, even with shoes, protects your heels, your knees, and your back. A short stride prevents the pounding of all your joints with that massive jar of landing, no matter how much foam is in your shoe. Proper stride is no more than a foot in front of your body.

Barefoot running and walking with a short stride and landing on the balls of your foot? Try it!

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rlschmid

     The human foot was not designed to run long distances over cement while lugging a beer gut either, but people do that too.

     Your best scientific citation is a study conducted in 1912?  I would hope that we've conducted more research since then.

     These shoes are an orthopedist's best friend.

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JohnP

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=running-barefoot-is-better-research-2010-01-27

 

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stige

more reading.

MPC recently announced the creation of Maximum TECH.  this article is clearly tagged "Maximum Tech".

there will never be enough daily PC news to fill up the pages of MPC.com with only PC specific content.

i, for one, am glad MPC is diversifying and trying to keep fresh content at the top of their website.

if it doesn't interest you is it really that hard to just NOT CLICK THE LINK?  you realize they probably keep metrics of how many unique visits each article gets and use those metrics to decide what new articles should be added?  if you genuinely don't care to read it, don't click.  ffs, above all else, go to Camp Quityowhining and do some exercises for your condition.  it's cynical and boring.

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Cruzg10

Maximum......Shoe???

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Kaigani

After subscribing to MPC for years, and scanning this site for its news feed... I finally had to register in order to voice a concern.  SHOES?  You have got to be kidding me!!  If it isn't enough to have to wade through all of the posts about how Craigslist has banned escort ads, Nokia execs peeing their pants, Facebook phone rumors, and other postings...

I'm left to wonder, how does this help me in any way when it comes to building or modding a computer?  How does this help me armor an operating system against malware?  How does this relate, in any tangential way, to MAXIMUM PC?

On a related note, if I troll around the web looking for things I can post to this site... let's say something like how to install sound-sensitive and reactive neon lights in my fish tank... how much $$ can I make by joining up and posting such interesting and intriguing items?  Where do I send a resume?

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iftegod

I own a pair of five-fingers, not the ones listed in the article i believe they are the KSO's, but I did it online without ever trying on a pair. Having guessed at the appropriate size, they fit a little snug for me, especially when wearing the toe-socks with them. I plan on using these for lounging/going to the beach/ leasure activities, but plan on buying a pair that have been fit properly in-store for running. Another consideration is to read up on barefoot running before using these shoes so you don't hurt your feet, running barefoot (or nearly so) is much different than running and shoes, and if you are used to running a lot, you can hurt your feet if you do not allow for the more natural foot strike. That said I do wish that there was a better MAX TECH header or link color to give readers a heads up (may I suggest blue).

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kpiperj

I've been an avid Vibrams fan for about a year now.  I have the KSOs and love them.  I wear them about 90% of the time. And do most of my runs in them. 

The Bikilas are my next purchase for running shoes.  Given that they don't have the 300-500 lifespan limitation of regular running shoes they are well worth the $100 price tag.  And yes, you can get socks - Injinjii makes toed socks that I swear by.  I wear them with regular running shoes (when I chose to run shod in regular shoes).  

Great job getting the word out there about Vibrams! :D

 

 

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schmitty6633

Whats the point of the Maximum Tech channel if everything on there is already mixed in with the Maximum Pc stuff.  

if I want general tech I'll go to the Max Tech channel.

If I want computer hardware and the works I'll go to MAXIMUM PC, not Maximum Tech!

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triclops41

cool article, i am not mad that MPC dared to put this on the site

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Cy-Kill

I wonder if they make socks that can fit those shoes....

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kpiperj

Check out Injinjii toed socks.  I love them for Vibram wear in the colder months (though I've gone sockless down to freezing without much trouble).  ;)  I'd recommend taking a pair with you if you get fitted w/Vibrams to make sure the size can handle the extra bulk.

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Cy-Kill

I don't even know if the shoes are available in Canada, and since I don't have a credit card I can't get the socks.

EDIT: MEC may sell the socks in their retail store, will have to check next time I am down on King St. W. here in Toronto.  Well, there is a store here in Toronto not all that far away from MEC that sells the shoes.

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stdot

Hey do you know the name of the store that sells these shoes in toronto?

thanks

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bingojubes

How are they at Freerunning? having a pair of shoes like these might improve your freerunning abilities, given the lightweight-ness of that pair of shoes. How much were they? do they come in customizable form, in case you have an extra big toe or pinky toe?

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metal chihuahua

<p>Bare foot runners can "advocate" all they want... but if you talk with any professional runner/running coach for marathons/triathalons/etc, they will all choose shoes over bare feet.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I would like to see someone run even a half marathon at 13.1 miles bare foot, and not come away from it with layers of skin missing from their feet and toes.</p>

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kpiperj

There was a top finisher in our local 1/2 marathon who ran it in Vibrams.  KSOs even - not nearly as high tech as the Bikila. ;)  

It's doable.  Not for everyone perhaps, but folks out there do it all the time! 

 

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metal chihuahua

<p>Bare foot runners can "advocate" all they want... but if you talk with any professional runner/running coach for marathons/triathalons/etc, they will all choose shoes over bare feet.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I would like to see someone run even a half marathon at 13.1 miles bare foot, and not come away from it with layers of skin missing from their feet and toes.</p>

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rlschmid

Minimalist and barefoot running advocates love citing Abebe Bikila's 1960 marathon performance, but his story doesn't end there.  He shaved 3:04 off of his previous world record four years later in Tokyo, wearing shoes.  That's a significant chunk of time for a runner that elite.  I would also question one's ability to convert to barefoot running within a single month's time.

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carnivorousslushee23

This is the kind of thing I've been expecting from the Maximum Tech branch of the website: cool/interesting stuff that you wouldn't see on a strictly tech website.  Loved the review, and it's made me consider looking at running barefoot.  I don't run much right now because I'm young and don't really need to, but I've also started working out regularly, so I'll give this stuff a look.

Thanks again for a good article.  Interesting stuff here.

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ShadowDragoonFTW

I second this.

 

I've seen the Vibram FiveFingers before, and I think they look great. It was really cool to see them pop up here as a Maximum Tech article.

 

Keep up the interesting stuff, guys!

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Walnut

Do these not make your feet hot? It seems like it would be roughly equivalent to wrapping some winter gloves in plastic wrap and then stretching them onto your feet. Does this material breathe well enough to prevent sweating?

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kpiperj

Not any sweater than feet shoved in socks inside running shoes. ;)  The top is actually a breathable fine mesh.   Much better a/c than socks and shoes!  I've run in humid hot hot weather and it's much cooler on the feet.  

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Stomy

proof that a well balanced nerd not only knows what the sun is but enjoys it.

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dedgar

There's a built-in mini computer in the tongue. Right??? It's operated by the toes that lay on pressure switches. Right??? You can text, play WOW and fold all at the same time. Right??? NO????????? There's no computer tech at all in these shoes????????????? Then why are they on a computer tech page?????????????? What's next, how to cook chicken Parmesian in 10 minutes?????? Let's get back to doing computer tech guys.

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Havok

I enjoy Chicken Parmesian and would think it an awesome joke/article if they did put one up. We just gotta chill until Maximum Tech gets its own dedicated URL. 

Keep up the Max PC/Tech news and ignore those comments like 'dedgar's' guys. I'm for Maximum Tech 100% of the way.

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crazitrain02

I take it Maximum PC is now becoming a PC/Fitness site as well?

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nedwards

This is a Maximum Tech article. I think we can all agree that these are pretty high-tech.

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xchrissypoox

I think you meant to say hype-tech as I don't think the science is there to argue them being better, they're just different. Cool looking though.

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dedgar

Where, anywhere in the article or header or somewhere else does it say that this is a Max Tech article?

It's on the Maximum PC page. PC as in Personal Computer.

Label it as a Max Tech and you may not get responses like these.

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fishead

Ah another advertisement for something that won't make a difference but they want you to pay $100 for because its the latest  "in" thing to buy like the $200 Air Jordan's that will make you play just like him if you buy them.Give me a break.

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FunkySquirrel

Seriously - they're goddamn shoes. I don't come to maximumpc.com to read about shoes.

If you're going to launch something new, do it right - don't mix it in with content that it clearly has nothing to do with.

Or else just rename the whole thing Maximum Suck, because that's what it's becoming.

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FunkySquirrel

And fix your comment section, please.  Great job - now, instead of getting ad spam, we spam it up ourselves, because this thing is busted.

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skirge01

At least the spam is easy enough to spot and skip over, much like articles I don't find of interest to myself.  Sadly, the whiny responses which don't interest me and have nothing to do with the article are much more difficult to spot and skip over.

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Biceps

Yes.  Took the words right out of my mouth.  The only thing worse than a winer is a winer with a computer and an internet connection.

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Jelson

Totally, agree with you.

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dc10ten

dude chill out.

the sites are sortof intermixed at the moment, im sure they are working on it.

New stuff that comes out doesn't require a computer for it to be classified as technology either.

mechanical tech, electromagnetic tech, nuclear tech, ...need i say more?

also technology doensn't neccessarily mean a man made object that provides a service, there are also items out there that enhance how we service and function. case in point, better running shoes through design. I don't wanna think that there is a whole lot of tech behind shoes, but irregardless...

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Jelson

 

I agree completely, some people just love to over react. 

 

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steele6

If I want to see an article about ugly shoes, I look up uglyshoes.com or whatever.  If I get to uglyshoes.com and see a review on Fermi graphics cards I will be equally perplexed.  I don't care if there is some clever technology behind the shoes or not, it doesn't matter, because they're shoes.  There could be some great technology behind the casting of F-N garden gnomes but if I can't plug it in, it shouldn't be on here.

Now give me an article on hacking a garden gnome with a motion sensor, a Super Soaker and a webcam feed so I can blast that little douche of a paperboy from my work PC and you got my interest.

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