Velocity Micro Raptor Z90

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Formulabrad

To elaborate a little more on the below comment,  I made the mistake of purchasing a similar model a few years ago, because I was amazed at all the good reviews it got, and the company promised reliability above everything else.  Once the 1 year warranty was up, the motherboard, video card, power supply and a hard drive all failed within 1-2 years.  My tech said it was a manufacturing defect.  But because it was out of warranty, Velocity Micro didn't care at all, even though it was manufactured as defective.  So, I spent this extra money on a reliable product (because I hate the cheap computers everyone comes out with these days), and I get in return the worst computer that I've ever had, at the most expensive price I've ever had.  I got pimped, and I've heard similar complaints from others.

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cforbord

Three weeks after my credit card was charged, I received the Velocity Micro desktop computer.  Upon set-up, the unit never did function properly.  I spent two weeks with tech support trying to get it up and running.  They promised to send over a local technician. A week later I contacted Velocity to find out status of tech, and was told they could find no one in our community of 175,000 people to take the job.  After much frustration and time, I finally requested to send the computer back for a refund.  I had to pay $38 to ship it, and was informed I'd be charged a 15% restocking fee.  This just does not seem right after a well-documented problematic computer was sent to me, and I AM BEING FINANCIALLY PENALIZED FOR THAT?  Just putting the word out so future consumers will be aware of this policy. 

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bcweir

Why did they bold all of the Zero Point's times to insinuate that the Zero Point beat the Micro Raptor in every category -- then turn around and give the MicroRaptor a 9??  Did the magazine change its name to MINIMUM PC for this benchmark?

As for the so-called debate over using $1,000 proc, people that want to lambast someone for spending more than $1,000 is plain tech-envy.  Get over it.  If you had that much money, I'd bet a month's worth of steak dinners you'd buy that chip too if YOU had the Benjamins.  What's next, lambasting the Dream Machine over its $5,000 chrome-plating (you could buy 5 i7 Extremes for that money) -- which looks good by the way.  Stop hating on other people just because YOU aren't in a higher tax bracket.

Bottom line is they spent $1,000 on a proc.  Big whoop.  Go cry in your cereal.  They're still selling the machine for $5K, which most of us could likely duplicate on their own for a whole lot less.

 

 

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xs0u1x

are the crysis settings on high?

 

 

2 4870's not to mention the rest of the system specs and still only 37fps?

 anybody else find something wrong with this?

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STorpedo

I might surprise you, but no, I don't, mainly because whoever designed this model was a complete idiot. Intel board - what? You can get at least a 4-5fps bonus in Crysis just by switching to a D6T Asus. 2 4870s? Coupled with an 965 with a STOCK HEATSINK? Are you kidding me? And then, on top of this add on a lovely Intel SSD, as if they're marketing this piece of crap at video-editors/CAD users who all use Quadro anyways. It's like the designers mixed great components with terrible ones for a laugh; great CPU, shite vid cards, Gret Mem and Storage, terrible mobo, terrible cooling

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xs0u1x

your absolutely right. althought id have to disagree on the vid cards being crap, but still 4grand for 37fps is a joke. my point being not so much the system, i mean, the components you mentioned are easily upgradeable by the end user(granted they shouldnt have too in the first place for 4 grand) by my complaint is mainly with crytek and game vendors like them who expect pc gaming to take off, but when you pump in 4 grand and you can only get 37fps out of the game your playing that kind of defeats the purpose of getting into the pc game market if you want to make money.

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bcweir

MaximumPC assigns their settings at a pretty decent challenge:  high enough to give the card a realistic challenge, but not so ridiculously high that it bogs down the whole machine.  The 4870 isn't top of the line (the 4870X2 is), but it's still a very respectable card, and still capable at far better frame rates that the outdated hardware running in 95 percent of the average users machines (yes I'm talking to you, Mr. GTX-card user).

So why hate on 37 fps?

That's still at least 10 fps better that MOST people are doing on Vista machines!  Besides that, most human eyeballs can't follow action faster than around 30 fps (which is considered movie-quality animation, anything better than 24 is going to be fairly smooth to most people).

Let me get this straight.  You're going to ding the machine because it's doing frame rates roughly 7 fps BETTER than most people's eyes can follow?

Why won't people ADMIT to tech-envy?  Why won't people admit that in a side by side comparison, this machine would likely kick the snot out of their homebrewed hardware, $5k pricetag aside?

 

 

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STorpedo

well, I was a bit harsh on the 4870s, but mainly because they already deliver great preformance in all games but Crysis, so Crysis-wise they're not the greatest (neither is any vid card at this point, I'm confident that even 2 295s struggle at 2560x1200). About the 4 grand thing though-this is obviously an overpriced PC, I made a PC that was top of the line a month ago for 3500, and everything was a heck of a lot better than here, and it plays Crysis allright, plus its not Crytek's fault, and in fact, I praise them for raising the bar on graphics manufacturing so high, otherwise they'd get lazy.

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Balgaroo

Ok so this is for killerxx7 and nekollx.  i just went to the Egg and priced these parts and i came up with a price of around $2900.  That of course does not include the case or power supply b/c those are proprietary but i threw in an extra $400 for a power supply and a case.  So yes it is overpriced and if i was dumb enough to spend a grand on a proc. then i would buy put this pc together.But I do not agree with the specs on this pc.  Intel's SSD is nice to tell your friends about having but i would go with the VelociRaptor, its $200 cheaper and ive never used more than 200 gigs on my primary drive (which stores nothing).  Also as stated before a grand for a proc is stupid. the i7 920 is $300 and can over clock to 3.5 easy with aftermarket cooling.  So what if i end up losing %2 performance, it will give me time to play with my willy.Also what power user upgrades everything all at once, i have hard drives and optical drives laying around so in all i could get a pc running close to this one for about a grand.  So in conclusion nekollx can lick my big round one.

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STorpedo

You know, you might be surprised to find out that people who buy a 965 don't leave it OC'd to 3.6, but in fact leave it on a stable OC of 4.4 or more, because they want a) a stable overclock, and b) actually be able to reach that frequency. So, no, I'll have to disagree, it's not stupid at all to buy a 1,000$ proc, and you're making me think that you're just bitter because you can't afford such expensive parts. The rest of your well-thought out paragraph supports my opinion. Not to sound holier-than-thou, but maybe you should be more respectful of people who can afford these parts because they studied their notebooks.

 P.S. The one area we do agree in is in ordering a PC (with a stock intel heatsink no less) for a grand more than what you'd usually pay for it.

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nekollx

aaaannnd your point is what?

 

Did i ever say it was overprice or underpriced? No all i said was MPC only margially counts price. And awared scors based on performace agaisnt past models and the Zero Point System

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Gailim

the price isnt the problem with this rig.

for what you get the price is decent. the problem with this rig is that the components are retarded.

1. the intel board OC's like shit

2. they took a 1k part and only OCed it to levels easily achievable by the $300 920

3. SSD's are spiffy but they aren't a very good value. better price/performance with a Raptor. Though I do understand the SSD move a bit. this rig is obvioulsy supposed to be "state of the art" unfortunately in computer tech "state of the art" is ussually equatable with "terrible value"

4. now this just pisses me off. they stuff the rig with the best CPU and and hard drive possible yet stick it with two 512mb 4870s, why not the 1GB? or better yet two GTX 280's. that would have made a much better investment than the SSD.

5. a 5k rig with integrated audio? wtf?

 

so the price isnt the issue. there are just a few retarded part selections. this rig should not get a 9. sorry MPC, performance isnt everything

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rich5665

How does the Velocity Micro Raptor Z90 compare to DM 2008? will a nearly $18k MaximumPC work of art blow the doors off this rig or does the Z90 make DM2008 look like yestredays news?

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killerxx7

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HeadHunter12

Did you even read the specs? 2 4870's, Intel DX58SO, Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition 80GB Intel X-25M SSD for 2500?

 1k less? Are you serious?

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killerxx7

Once again a heavily overpriced rig that can be built for at least a 1K less and wow they MPC gave it a 9!

 

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nekollx

then shut up and go biuld it

 

right now...

 

Go on...

 

whats your delay?

 

MPC only counts price as a marginal factor, their raition is more based on performach and benchmarks agaisnt past models and the Zero Point system.

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