Hewlett-Packard Firebird
Posted 07/15/09 at 02:00:00 PM by Gordon Mah Ung
Run silent, run green
Can a PC be scary? Hewlett-Packard’s Firebird is. Why? The Firebird could very well offer a glimpse of where enthusiast computing is headed—and it’s not a future we’re particularly looking forward to.
The Firebird looks like a lap poodle version of HP’s Blackbird 002, but the similarities are only skin deep. While the Blackbird 002 was a traditional meat-and-potatoes performance PC with industry-standard parts, tons of slots, and the power consumption to match, the Firebird is none of those things. It’s silent instead of loud, diminutive instead of imposing, and offers minimal upgrade options.
The Firebird is more of a hybrid between a gaming notebook and a desktop machine—a gametop, maybe. It has 2.5-inch notebook hard drives, a slimline optical drive, two notebook GeForce 9800S GPUs in SLI, and an ExpressCard slot. Heck, the machine doesn’t even have a PCI Express card slot. The only internal expansion options are two PCI Express Mini Card slots, for frak’s sake. And here’s the ultimate snub to power computing: the machine packs a water-cooled 2.83GHz Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 and but two DDR2 slots. Why no Core i7? HP points to the CPU’s lack of hybrid SLI support—it’s only available on Nvidia chipsets currently. The CPU is at least a standard LGA775. HP also managed to get a real hardware X-Fi in the unit. The power brick—not an internal PSU—is a 350-watt unit.
As you might guess, the performance is nothing to text home about. It holds up well against our zero-point rig, but the Firebird gets shot down by just about every PC we’ve reviewed since last July. Next to the Core i7 boxes, the Firebird is sucked into a jet intake and spit out featherless.
The Firebird may portend a reimagined future for "performance" computing.
So what’s so scary about that? Isn’t the Firebird’s performance something to snicker at? Perhaps in the same way you’d snicker at a Toyota Prius as you watch it shrink in the rear-view mirror of your Hemi Cuda. That, ultimately, is the scary part of the Firebird to us.
On the pro side, it’s dead silent thanks to a water-cooled GPU, CPU, and fanless power brick. Power consumption is exceptional for the performance you get, too. At idle, the rig draws less than 90 watts. With all four of the Firebird’s cores going, or with a game running, you’ll typically see power consumption below 190 watts. By comparison, a 3.2GHz Core i7-965 with SLI’d GeForce GTX 280 cards, an Intel SSD, a 300GB VelociRaptor, and 6GB of RAM uses more power than that at idle and climbs up over 650 watts under heavy loads.
Beyond just the Mad Max world we’re hurtling toward where everyone has to knife fight for a liter of gasoline, this could very well be the future of high-end computing. PCs have grown smaller over the years and add-in cards fewer. With external graphics on the way, it’s quite possible the Firebird is a precursor of what an enthusiast PC will look like in 2013.
In the here and now though, is the Firebird right for you? For the person pursuing a silent and green computing experience with fair gaming and application performance, it is. For the power user/upgrader, it most certainly is not. The machine is just a generation behind the power curve for our tastes and the proprietary parts hurt. But ask us the same question in four years when the Firebird Mk. IV is out, and we may have a different answer.
Sips power and is dead silent given its power envelope.
Disconcerting mix of proprietary parts and last-gen hardware.
| Zero Point | HP Firebird 803 | |
|---|---|---|
| Premiere Pro CS3 | 1,260 sec | 940 sec |
| Photoshop CS3 | 150 sec | 155 sec (-3%) |
| ProShow | 1,415 sec | 1,415 sec |
| MainConcept | 1,872 sec | 1,872 sec |
| Crysis | 26 fps | 26 fps |
| Unreal Tournament 3 | 83 fps | 83 fps |
Our current desktop test bed consists of a quad-core 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700, 2GB of Corsair DDR2/800 RAM on an EVGA 680 SLI motherboard. We run two EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX cards in SLI mode, Western Digital 150GB Raptor and 500GB Caviar hard drives, LG GGC-H20L, Sound Blaster X-Fi, and PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 Quad. OS is Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit.
| Processor | Intel 2.83GHz Core 2 Quad Q9550 |
| MOBO | Proprietary design using nForce 760S chipset |
| RAM | 4GB DDR2/800 |
| Videocard | Two GeForce 9800S in SLI |
| Soundcard | Creative Labs X-Fi |
| Storage | Two 320GB Hitachi TravelStar 5K320 (5,400rpm) |
| Optical | Optiarc Blu-ray BC-5600S |
| Case/PSU | Custom/ 350 watt external |
notebook graphic cards? isnt
Submitted by Bless on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 9:49am
notebook graphic cards? isnt that unswappable? what's the point of getting a desktop if you cant swap the equipments? might as well get a laptop, at least there's this mobility bonus.
Why not?
Submitted by alwrmcusn on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 3:26am
Not everyone wants to put 2,3 or 4 $500 video cards in their computer. Not everyone wants or needs the miniscule speed difference between 5400 and 72 RPM HD's. This is a nice quiet machine that requires less power and would be just fine for about 2/3's of the people. There is a market for the high end units but it is considerably less than for the rest of us. My bottom line goes like this.... Do I really need to spend several thousand dollars in order to play a $49 game and brag about the extra 2FPS?
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4gb Ram
Windows Vista Home Premium SP1
HP w2207 Monitor
CD/DVD SuperMulti drive (Lightscribe)
HD DVD ROM
Realtek ALC 888S
Nvidia 8800 GT OC 512mb
...Keurig close by for a quick cuppa!
...theres a huge difference
Submitted by tkddan87 on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 4:55am
...theres a huge difference between 5400rpm 7200rpm, and im personaly running 10k and 15k disks..thers a huge difference between the speeds. also a 140$ videocard will get you 40fps in crysis
Firebird is a Joke
Submitted by MJB53 on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 3:13am
HP played a joke on all of the former Voodoo enthusiasts after Rahul sold out. We were lured to purchase the Blackbird 002 based on the Voodoo reputation just to be dropped like hot potatoes once the 1 year warranty ran out. The Firebird is a sickly looking child of HP with diluted Voodoo DNA. Shame on HP for so ruthlessly destroying such a great name in computers and shame on Rahul for lending his name in support of HP's behaviour.
Zero Points
Submitted by Bender2000 on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 3:32pm
The Firebird matches the Zero Point rig step for step, and does it with half the power and half the size. You have to respect that. If this was a test shot, let's watch the genre develop. More OEMs should hop on board the mini gaming rigs. I always wondered why the nobody could max out an iMac like machine, now we have this. I'm all for shrinking the PC down, they are awfully large now and the hardware to shrinkthem has been around for years. Get the likes of MSI and Asus to build motherboards, SSDs are dropping in price. All we need is GPUs that fit and a choice of external power bricks to match. This is the wave of the budget to mid priced gaming systems.
Nice
Submitted by MeTo on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:51am
I would buy one if it had a real HDD. 5,400 rpm laptop HDD just does not cut it. Give it a 3.5" 1 terabyte 7,200 rpm and this would be a sweet HTPC.
it doesn't have to be what
Submitted by gatorXXX on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:37am
it doesn't have to be what it will look like in the future. All you have to do is....not buy it. That simple. Send a msg to to these morons that no one wants it.
idk i suppose it fits a
Submitted by tkddan87 on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:13am
idk i suppose it fits a market of people who want to game but dont want to drop the serious $$ to get a truly beefy rig... its like the whole craze of fuel efficient but want 0-60 in 3 seconds. you cant have both economey and muscle.
In reality there is a ratio
Submitted by MaxFan on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:11am
In reality there is a ratio between power and economy that says the more oomph I derive from the power that I use makes me more efficient. I like efficiency when it gets the job done because it is a sure sign that my performance dollar is well spent and not wasted. Call it the Ferrari Ideal of efficiency. What I Do Not like is efficiency as a status symbol. Call this the Toyota Ideal of efficiency. This is what happens when you put Accountants in charge of marketing and advertisiment. Its also what happens to the Male Dog or Cat at the vets.
Just sad.
you can have both but it
Submitted by nekollx on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:07am
you can have both but it will cost a fortune.
its the great triagle
Cost
power
Efficiency
pick any 2
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