Gateway P-7811 FX
Posted 08/13/08 at 01:00:00 PM | by Gordon Mah Ung
Gateway struck a nerve with its original low-cost FX P-series notebook, which gave gamers an affordable way to get good frame rates from a portable PC. The company applied the same formula to its new P-7811 FX and again comes up with a winning combination of hardware that’s sure to please budget-minded gamers.
What’s so great about this FX? First, there’s Intel’s new 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo Mobile P8400. This chip is similar to other 45nm mobile CPUs, but it runs on a 1,066MHz front-side bus on the new PM45 chipset, which supports DDR3. Gateway also stuffs 4GB of DDR3/1066 into the unit.
The notebook also features the new GeForce 9800M GTS, which is essentially a higher-clocked version of the GeForce 8800M GTS that offers 64 stream processors, a 512MB GDDR frame buffer, and a 256-bit memory interface.
Of course, you can’t stuff all this hardware into an ultraportable machine. With its 17-inch panel, the P-7811 FX weighs in at 9.2 pounds. That’s a lot to schlep around, but other gaming notebooks, such as Dell’s XPS M1730, weigh in at more than 10.5 pounds. The P-7811 FX is fairly thin, and if we had to carry it somewhere a few times a week it wouldn’t kill us, but it certainly isn’t a road warrior’s rig.
The P-7811 FX’s performance certainly doesn’t disappoint. In nongaming applications, it compares well to notebooks that are far more expensive, including Apple’s $2,500 MacBook Pro and Dell’s $2,000 XPS M1530. In gaming, it destroys both those models, as well as all others featured in our August notebook showdown. We can’t compare the P-7811 FX directly to the Alienware Area-51 m15x we reviewed in June because we’ve changed our benchmarks since then, but we believe the Area-51, with its faster GeForce 8800M GTX GPU and Core 2 Extreme X900 CPU, would best the P-7811 FX. On the other hand, the Gateway costs a fraction of the Area-51’s price.
So what’s the downside? For starters, the speakers. For a notebook this size, we expect booming audio—the P-7811 FX’s output is just average. We’re also not fans of the trick-or-treat color scheme, which strikes us as garish. And the DVD eject button is poorly placed. It’s easy to accidentally press it while picking up the notebook. Finally, we have a problem with the power cord’s right-angle plug. One of the most common failure points in a notebook PC is the port where the power plug is attached, and much more stress is generally put on a right-angle power plug due to its orientation. Just repositioning the plug torques the power port.
Still, there’s a lot to like here. The original FX was a big hit, and this follow-up, with its HDMI and eSATA ports, great performance, and low price, is sure to follow suit. Who is this notebook for? Clearly not anyone concerned with mobility. As we noted, you don’t want to carry this beast every day. But for a gamer who has limited space options, the FX is a hell of a notebook and a hell of a deal.
Ed note: Due to a vendor error, the Gateway P-7811 unit does not actually include Bluetooth nor the fingerprint reader at the $1400 price point.
Superb gaming performance for a superb price.
Too heavy to regularly lug around; mouse buttons feel creaky.
| Gateway P-7811 FX | |
|---|---|
| Processor | Intel 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo Mobile P8400 |
| RAM | 4GB DDR3/1066 |
| Chipset | Intel PM45 |
| Hard Drive | 200GB Seagate Momentus (7,200 rpm) |
| Optical | TSST TS-L633P |
| GPU | GeForce 9800N GTS |
| Boot/Down | 74 sec/18 sec |
| Lap/Carry | 9.2 lbs/10.5 lbs |
| Zero Point | Gateway P-7811 FX | |
|---|---|---|
| Premiere Pro CS3 | 1, 860 sec | 2,143 sec |
| Photoshop CS3 | 237 sec | 191 sec |
| ProShow | 2,416 sec | 1,965 sec |
| MainConcept | 3,498 sec | 3,571 sec |
| FEAR | 13 fps | 108 fps |
| Quake 4 | 29.1 fps | 133 fps |
Look nice.
Submitted by DukeCLR on Fri, 2008-09-19 08:51
I have been looking to replace my Dell XPS Gen II laptop and this may be the one. Does anyone know how Crysis will run on this thing?
On sale at Best Buy
Submitted by phpd7102 on Sat, 2008-09-06 03:15
Its currently $1400 at Best Buy with a $200 coupon so its $1299 and qualifies for free shipping. Just ordered it.
compelling, i'm in the
Submitted by okron1k on Tue, 2008-08-19 16:10
compelling, i'm in the market for a laptop and will probably pick one of these up.
This looks like a really
Submitted by thafrogggg on Mon, 2008-08-18 21:57
This looks like a really interesting rig. I have been out of the hardware end of the market for too long so do not know how it compares to the older equipment I am familiar with (I know it is better). For any of you that actually have bought this laptop, how well does it do on high end games? I see the quake and fear scores, but I do not know how much those games challenge a system as comapred to some of the games that Max PC says "will bring your system to its knees".
I am looking to replace my 5yo desktop PC and I wonder if this is a good choice.
Great rig
Submitted by DropPacket on Sat, 2008-08-16 09:54
Just got this rig, so far I like it. The only thing I don't like is the 64bit Vista, I really would like a clean install of XP. May be time to find myself a copy as I'm really not enjoying having issues finding some products that work with 64 bit.
Yes, please put in something
Submitted by statewd on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:17
Yes, please put in something like "As of August 2008, MSRP price $1400."
Looks like a sweet laptop!
Submitted by mlee19 on Wed, 2008-08-13 16:08
Looks like a sweet laptop! Makes me forget about getting an Alienware. The only draw back now is that you can not customise throgh their website. You can only get it from a second party.
Price.
Submitted by majorsuave on Wed, 2008-08-13 12:50
I agree with everyone, put on the price like you do in the magazine. We are the geeks, we know the article has been written some day and the price will not be valid forever, but if you are to compare it to the quoted price of Dell and Apple hardware, well then, quote this one as well.
Thank you
In the paper magazine, the
Submitted by jwalch.hawk on Wed, 2008-08-13 10:25
In the paper magazine, the little summary box with the final rating and the brief pros/cons also contains the MSRP at the very bottom, just below the final rating. Would you guys consider using this practice with the online reviews too? I know price isn't the number one factor for a lot (most?) of the folks on here, but it's still better to have it right there rather than trying to hunt through article for it or Ctrl-F for "$" (which is really lame, btw).
EDIT: Looks like someone beat me to that one. :P
reasons!
Submitted by nedwards on Wed, 2008-08-13 10:46
The price of this notebook, as reviewed, at the time it was reviewed, was $1400. Not shabby!
The reason we don't post the price online is that prices change very rapidly, but the reviews stay up for a while. You don't want something's 2005 price up when you're trying to find its price now, do you?
Instead, we have a PriceGrabber widget that grabs the current prices from around the web. But this notebook is so new that there's no data available for it to pick up on.
Ok, those reasons make a
Submitted by jwalch.hawk on Wed, 2008-08-13 17:57
Ok, those reasons make a lot of sense. I can see why you don't want a permanent bloated figure sticking around on your review. Here's my suggestion, though:
Use the PriceGrabber widget to occupy the space I was talking about. For new products, it's a-ok with me if that space just says "No Price Data Available" for a couple weeks. If I'm understanding you correctly, the widget polls regularly to keep current prices, so this would assure accurate prices basically from the point the product becomes widely marketed until it is discontinued or obsolete. In cases where PriceGrabber doesn't have any data to work with, just append a sentence to the end of the review: "At the time of this review, [Company]'s suggested retail price was $[dollars.cents]." I don't think any of the reviewers would be too pissed about that sort of thing, and it would give us a ballpark idea from the onset. Also, since the figure is stated as being an "at press time" figure, it's not unreasonable to expect your reader audience to see that sentence and double-check the press date. Myself I'd kinda go through a process like this: Do we have live price data? No. Ok, check the price stated in the review itself. How old is the review?
I realize that even this isn't ideal, but I think most of us feel like *something* is better than nothing.
Prices
Submitted by icebird on Wed, 2008-08-13 11:19
The lack of point-in-time market prices in your reviews is beginning to
irritate me. I think I remember reading somewhere that you had a
policy against listing the prices for whatever reason (and after refreshing I see you've commented on this), but if you're
going to mention the price over and over and OVER again, compare it to
the prices of other machines, and even list price as one of the major
plusses in your review, it's *highly* inconsistent with such a policy
and annoying to have to go hunt it down myself.EDIT: A pricegrabber widget would help yes, but if it's not going to work consistently, what's the point? Trust your readers to be smart enough to look at the published date of an article and realize that prices have changed since then. It's not the specific number that's important, but the general price-range that will tell me if I need to go look for the current prices on an item or not.
Incredible
Submitted by One4yu2c on Wed, 2008-08-13 10:50
That's a lot of notebook for $1,400!
Where's the Price??
Submitted by statewd on Wed, 2008-08-13 10:01
Where's the retail price of this notebook in the review? Usually there is a Retail Price shown in the specs somewhere.










