No BS Podcast #183: The Magnificent Marsupials of Austria

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holingpoon

I'm on board with Gordon. Windows 8 is a risky move, and it can go as far as driving long time Windows users to switch to Mac.

I understand the short-staff problem, but...should I be looking at the beginning of the month for the podcast?

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joeyjr

can't even get it to work to it now?

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FrostyWinnipeg

Throwing in my 2 cents. First I loved the newest podcast. Thought it was one of the best yet. Perfect blend of reviews, comments and rants. I liked having Richard Koscher on. Something about that European accent that you can just make fun of if he ever gets out of line.

Secondly I'm really sorry to hear about the job cuts at the magazine. Makes me look bad for comments I've made this year about the lack of podcasts. Considering that other podcasts that broadcast weekly are mostly about the latest video war offerings from AMD and NVidia I can say I'm not that upset about having MaxPC cut back their podcast schedule.

Quality over quantity. Thanks MaxPC.

P.S. Boba Fett did not die in Return of the Jedi. He returned in the Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy game.

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sasquatchua

So when Han and Luke bring Chewbacca to the prison level and the warden says "Where are you taking that... thing?" it seems hard to accept that the guy was just being xenophobic. It legitimately seemed that he had never seen a Wookie before. Gordon is right, the Wookie slave labor "theory" is just rebellion revisionist history.

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CentiZen

I guess you guys were trying to be funny and all, but Gordon's little rant about pot was distinctly unfunny and quite ignorant. Not every person who uses cannabis is a pothead, that's akin to saying every black man is a gangster. I think you would be surprised at the amount of successful people that use cannabis either recreationally or medically who's memories work just fine.

/rant

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Xaviersx

I've been checking back regularly, hoping that the podcast wasn't over. I'm glad that we still get a podcast. Sorry about the scaling back, tough times. Take care and be well.

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bpstone

I was late again to the office. Dammit! Would love to have thrown my two cents into the mix. lol ;)

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Kangaroo's and Crockadiles ?

In AUSTRIA ?

and the Austrian doesn't spot the mistake ?

these moron's are starting to sound like British Intel.....

ZING!

Seriously, if you are trying to be funny, try adding a laugh track so everyone knows you're "trying" to be funny

Or...

Start working on your delivery

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jgrimoldy

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wolf17

holy crap, a MaximumPC Podcast!! Yay! :D

If you guys want to try out Windows 8 in a VM like Gordon is, I wrote up a guide when the Consumer Preview came out here: http://pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/Installing-Windows-8-Consumer-Preview-VirtualBox-Virtual-Machine :).

I'm with Gordon, it took me awhile to figure out the unintuitave metro commands, especially the method of closing a metro app. Also, the removal of the start button will have phone tech support people in tears.

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TheMurph

We, uh, wrote that same guide.  :b

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/how_dual-boot_or_virtualize_windows_8_0313

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chinomon

thank you guys so much for making a podcast, I wouldn't mind if you guys would at least make 1 each month. Again, thank you for making this podcast come back to life again, and also missed Gorden's smack talk every other week. this made my day =)

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jcollins

Whee, a podcast! I thought you guys all got voted off of Future Inc Island. Pretty much everyone in magazineworld is like dead man walking right now.

Re. Metro on Win8. I'm surprised Gordon didn't comment on this, but doesn't it really sound like it's a poor console port to the PC? How many games are out there with limited graphics resolutions, and half-assed inconsistent control schemes originally set up for a controller and not a keyboard/mouse? Sounds just like Metro.

Re. Empire incompetence. Come on, the Sith aren't big on people that perform well OR retention. It's a dog eat dog world. The fastest way to advance is to backstab your boss. In a world where you screw up, you get force choked, you're going to be paranoid as a boss.

Re. Royal Guard. You know, force chokey, force lightning? If the Emperor tells you to leave, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to know you don't want to be around while the Emperor plays. Although, agreed, doesn't explain the aftermath.

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fellowleo

Come on, give these guys a break. They are down to 5 guys to compile and collate a monthly magazine. They got more important things to do with their precious time like family and sleep than chit chat about tech news for our enjoyment. I love and look forward to every episode myself. Back in 2009 I was in a programming job for 3 months and I listened to EVERY episode of the podcast from #1 to then current. It was what kept me sane. Even now past episodes play on my iPod to wake me in the morning, but these people are human and apparently working for a struggling company in an atmosphere of declining morale. I wish them well, and if sacrificing the podcast keeps the magazine afloat, so be it.

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TheMurph

From #1?  Man.  Almost pains the ears to listen to some of those early ones.  ;)

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LordZarlon

Thank you for taking the time to make a new podcast even with all the crap going on at Future. How can you make a magazine with 5 people?!! If it wasn't for you guys and all the hard work you do I would say, "SCREW FUTURE INC." They screwed over GamesRadar as well. I love you guys!

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strykyr

Yeah...monthly podcast. Awesome to get one but get real. Down to 5 full time employees. When I tweeted to Max PC, " People still pay you guys for stuff" on the 6th I was on the money. Why are you guys still focusing on print media? Get with the times. I just spent $50 on a tested.com premium membership. They keep their promises. They know weekly means once a week, not whatever week they decide to come to work. Bad part is, as much as I hate apple products, I would still give em another $50 even tho they don't use premium subscriber services due to the Mythbusters buying tested.com. But I still refuse to buy your mag because you give all your content away free before I would get my mag in the mail. I was paying to receive in the mail stuff I had already read on the website. You got rid of the watchdog feature which was what got me interested in your site in the first place. Where else in this world can you find a stranger to advocate for you against the big dogs like apple and Asus and best buy?

So hearing you complain about losing manpower isn't surprising at all. Figure out another method of getting your word out and making money or close up shop and go work for Will and Norm...oops, Adam and Jamie.

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Havok

Wow, did those guys pay you to start an ad campaign for them? Cripes, the Mythbusters must really throw their weight around then. :)

If you don't like what these guys are doing, just stop following them. You don't have to show up and piss all over the party.

Come on, Internet, stop being the Internet!

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TheMurph

Seriously.  This guy's been a member of maximumpc.com for four years now, and all he ever seems to post about nowadays is how awesome Giant Bomb is.

Really adding to the conversation there, bro.  Or broette.

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strykyr

It's bro. And it's not about how awesome Giant Bomb is. It's about how shitty Maximumpc has become since Giant Bomb started. And I have been coming here for 7 years u idiot.

Edited to add...Longer than you have been working there.

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nedwards

"Why are you guys still focusing on print media?" 

The Venn diagram of "people who write for Maximum PC" and "people who make business decisions about Maximum PC" looks like this: O                                O

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la_bruin

Nathan & the No BS crew:

I only just listened to the latest podcast: It snuck up on me because I frankly didn't expect another post.

First of all, I'm so sorry about the layoffs. Don't listen to the negativity - which means, don't listen to 99% of the Internet. Lord knows, we had a fairly sizable layoff (4 digits) and if we had listened to every thumbdick with an opinion, a lot of us would have been ready to put a bullet in our head.

I was glad to hear you and Gordon at least made it past the culling. Just know that there's a LOT of people that I work with at a very large software company that talked in great depth internally about how sad we were that Maximum PC had been downsized. Hoping you guys hold on since there's obviously a surge of hardware coming this year.

Y'know I'd buy everyone I know in IT a gift subscription for you guys but FUTURE makes it so damned hard from their subscriptions page and there's no paper subscription sales from Amazon. Sigh.

You're still my favorite magazine. And for the record, I LIKE PRINT. I look forward to every delivery every month.

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strykyr

Maybe my post was directed to "people who make business decisions about Maximum PC" instead of "people who write for Maximum PC"? IS that at all possible? What have you done to make the site you work for better than it is?

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TheMurph

That's true.  Nathan definitely still needs to start up the "$0.05 for every time Strykyr complains" jar.

The long and short of it is that magazines take a lot of work to produce.  Magazines and the thorough amount of testing that goes into everything Maximum PC reviews.

If Maximum PC was just a website, and all they did was write one-off articles from topics they saw on other sites, they would probably have a lot more time to do a weekly podcast.  When I worked at the magazine, it was a near-herculean effort to produce original content for print (on a monthly basis) and online (on an as-soon-as-you-can-do-it basis).  

Giant Bomb's a different operation with different goals and different resources.  If Maximum PC wanted to do things that way, they could likely get you a podcast, milk, and cookies every single week.  Only, you'd lose your benchmark-driven reviews and other elements that make Maximum PC what it is.

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wolf17

I'd like to see you run Maximum PC. When you aren't upper management, there isn't much you can do and when you are upper management, you don't know what the right thing to do is b/c you're only seeing money and not people and fans. Nathan has to work within the bounds Future (the guys that sign his paycheck and keep him alive) sets. Just podcast when you can guys, I'll continue listening!

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LordZarlon

You go Nathan!

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I Jedi

I think that's a bit harsh. Unfortunately, I too, don't think that MxPC is what it once was, but that doesn't mean it's anyone's fault over at MxPC. As they said, they have five people to do a magazine and probably not much of a support team besides the freelancers. I'd hate to write a whole magazine each month knowing that every month I would have five people to work with and that was it. Should MxPC change, sure. Are they doing a crappy job because they don't get a podcast out every week, no. The podcast do help, though, in getting the community excited for MxPC, which can draw in new people, too.

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LordZarlon

Um, I love MaximumPC. I don't want the magazine to go anywhere. If you want to leave then leave. I for one will stay faithful to the magazine and site that I am a fan of and that's MaximumPC.

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someuid

Oh thank goodness. I have a road trip next week and will have lots of free time to listen. And the Apr 6th one will be just in time for the road trip for Easter to see the in-laws (who I get along with well so no lame in-law jokes.)

Still, you guys do need to pick up the pace a bit. Techreport.com and Pcper.com crank them out weekly. We don't need a huge podcast. Even a 30 minute podcast where you chat about some articles you're writing and a Gordon rant would be welcome.

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Insula Gilliganis

I knew if I started working on a derogatory comment about the lack of podcasts a new one would show up. You are welcome! Should have used my special powers back in late January! But a new podcast doesn't negate the fact that it has been clear for a long time that no one at MaxPC has much interest in making a weekly podcast, much less ANY podcast. The podcast was probably all Will Smith's idea as when he was around it actually was a predictable "weekly" podcast..

2007 - 48 episodes
2008 - 43
2009 - 36

Will leaves in January 2010 after #128 and Norm after #130

2010 - 34 (there was no #150 episode; and 4 were RANT episodes)
2011 - 19 (13 of these were done in the 1st half of 2011)
2012 - 2

Only 8 episodes since July, 2011.. 8 podcasts in 8.5 months!!

The podcast continues fairly regularly after Will left probably due to forward momentum he created as EIC. But as his influence and memory faded, and fellow co-workers of Will like "The Murph" left, this lead to the rapid infrequency of podcasts. It was always telling to me that, after Will left, the podcast was staffed mostly by the junior writers.. George Jones, Michael Brown, Lloyd Case and Katherine Stevenson rarely ever showed up. Michael, Katherine and even Jon Phillips were on with some regularity when Will ran things. Now, too many times the podcast just consisted of Gordon, Nathan and Andy. Even if Amber and Alex did show up, they rarely contributed. Alan seemed somewhat interesting but he also rarely showed up. Why? Because the podcast wasn't a priority the way it was when Will was there.

I also believe that when Will and Norm left, there was a dramatic change in the tech talk verses "everything else" talk, probably because Will and Norm really weren't replaced on the show and those left to fill the void just didn't have the breath of technology knowledge to gab about it so more non-tech chit-chatter started to occur, plus way more emphasis on Gordon's rants than before. I have been surprised as how ill informed the MaxPC crew has been on so many tech topics. Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised since Will seemed to live and breath technology, being at Ars Technica (when he was called "Gonzo") before working at MaxPC. But Gordon use to be a police reporter (although did also write some for Computerworld) and Nathan has said he majored in journalism while in college. Don't get me wrong, Gordon is great with motherboard/system build reviews, CPUs and Apple bashing while Nathan knows how to spread thermally conductive compound with the best of them. But, unfortunately, neither are very interesting or informative about most tech news.

Prediction.. Tested.com's podcast will get to #200 (currently on #111) before MaxPC does.. prove me wrong MaxPC!

Wish.. I would like EVERY podcast to be as informative as episode #173.. let's make the "unnaturally" the norm.

Summary.. Unless something radically happens, the MaxPC podcast "jumped the shark" a long time ago and is now currently enjoying it's "11th season of Happy Days" phase.

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Havok

Are you really saying, 'Your podcast sucks, listen to another!'

Really? Because, if you are... that's a little childish. Sure, some previous writers for Maximum PC were more gun-ho for the podcast than others were, but these guys also have to publish a print magazine every month and don't always have the time to sit back, 'relax' and make a podcast.

If you're that incensed at Team FU about the state of the No BS Podcast, how about you PM them on the forums or send them an email instead of making a fool of yourself in the comments section.

I appreciate what these guys do. They should keep it up and make it to 200 episodes. But wanton ad campaigns for other podcasts are not the way to help them do it.

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nedwards

So did you listen to this episode yet?

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I Jedi

It is unfortunate that we have not seen as many podcast come from MaximumPC. I remember when I use to be playing Counter-Strike: Source about two years ago and there would be a new podcast I'd listen to while playing every other week or so. I'll never forget the time I was playing CS:S and heard my voice appear on the podcast. I flipped shit, so it really was nice back when the community felt they were a part of MaximumPC and could connect with them sort of through the podcast. I always felt like I was sitting beside all of them just listening along and learning cool and interesting things.

Sure, sure, we have the forums, but it's just not the same.

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Teh_tourist

Thank you so much for not letting Fackler back on the podcast!

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TheMurph

Ahem.

 

Hey guuuyysss.

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Thal

I think everyone can agree the podcast needs more Dave the Murph Murphy

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TheMurph

I second that.

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I Jedi

Ummm, who are you?????

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TheMurph

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praetor_alpha

Holy easter egg in a shit can! It's the podcast!

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