No BS Podcast #108: The Great Bing Experiment
Posted 06/12/09 at 04:45:28 PM by The Maximum PC Staff
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After being out of the office last week, the gang is back to talk about this week's biggest tech headlines. Will and Norm recap their adventure at the Electronics Entertainment Expo, Gordon gets riled up over Apple's WWDC announcements, and we collectively anticipate upcoming Facebook's vanity URL service. facebook.com/willsmith, unfortunately, has already been claimed. We also try a bold experiment: using Bing as our default search engine for a week. How long before someone gives up and goes back to Google? And as always, we answer a few listener questions and bring you Gordon's rant of the week. All this plus more in this edition of the No BS podcast!
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Podcast 109
Submitted by Nater on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 4:39am
Wrong podcast, sorry.
We had a bunch of people out
Submitted by willsmith on Mon, 06/22/2009 - 12:36pm
We had a bunch of people out sick and on vacation last week, so we had to skip. We'll be back on Friday.
Submitted by JDK on Mon, 06/22/2009 - 12:00pm
Earth to Maximum PC...Earth to Maximum PC, over.........
Whatever happened to releasing the podcast on Friday?
Submitted by Block_Dude on Mon, 06/22/2009 - 5:08am
are we on a Monday schedule now or something?
Submitted by simplymortified on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 10:36pm
We getting one this week?
Submitted by JDK on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:18am
I would love to hear a whole show dedicated to pointing out Apples obvious nonsense.
However, talking sh*t about Apple is about like picking on a 13 year old handicapped girl.
Gordon is my fucking hero,
Submitted by Dick Motorman on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:59pm
Gordon is my fucking hero, good lord. It's so nice to here someone calling Apple on their shit. I want an entire show dedicated to Gordon ranting about Apple.
There are a couple "All
Submitted by jcollins on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 3:25pm
There are a couple "All Gordon All Rant" podcasts out there. I believe they tend to do those at the end of the year and are basically a concatenation of Gordon's rants for the year. They should be in the archives.
Submitted by willsmith on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 1:05pm
See Episode 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 12, 17, and most of the rest of the series.
Submitted by Dick Motorman on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 1:08pm
lmao will check those out.. and ffs I need to learn how to type, I obviously meant "hear" not "here"
Submitted by JDK on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 11:51am
That was a good show. I do have a thought though on outtakes. Can they really be considered outtakes when they take up a third of the show? Ok....so I'm exagerating for effect....and I like the outtakes but if they are going to be that long just make them another section with another music souder...I dont know....OT perhaps?
IMO sometimes your off topic chit chat is the best part of the show.
Anyways keep up the good work guys.
Submitted by PhelanPKell on Sun, 06/14/2009 - 8:38pm
I'm with Gordon. You can't release a "bunch of changes" for OS X and call it a new OS. I'm not sure if I'd 100% agree that 95, 98, ME and 2000 are really DIFFERENT operating systems so much as different versions of a single OS, but that's probably widely debatable both ways.
Hey, MaximumPC! Liked the
Submitted by I Jedi on Sun, 06/14/2009 - 1:05pm
Hey, MaximumPC! Liked the podcast this week, keep it up.
I like Bing so far. It does
Submitted by Bizarre on Sun, 06/14/2009 - 8:37am
British 8-year old Gordon FTW!
I like Bing so far. It does have some interesting features that save me a few seconds at a time. I love the scrolling map when I search for listings on maps.
the incremental updates for
Submitted by Khaled on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 11:01pm
the incremental updates for Mac OSX (10.5.1 10.5.2 ... etc) are the Mac OSX "service packs". Yeah maybe Apple does need to change the name, at least keep Mac OSX but change the numbering ...
I just started using Vista and Windows 7 and after a few weeks they look almost the same.
As for Windows:
Why are there so many useless tiers? just have one "home" Windows and an enterprise version that they can license the way they want. I bought a windows based notebook and it came with 1 language interface (English, although I am in an Arabic speaking country) after researching it my options to add an Arabic interface are:
1.LIP file, which is free but there is no Arabic language LIP for Vista! Persian/Afrikan was found, but MS wants the "Arab money" of...
2.MUI files, apparently those are free for "ultimate" and "enterprise". I don't see the point? why?
3.Buy another license of Windows in the language that you want? huh.
4.Pirate it ...
5.Hack it, I think I found a guide on installing MUI on non Ultimate Windows ...
(other OSs Mac, linux etc offer language localization for free).
From my experience with Windows 7 it feels like a Service Pack for Vista... Maybe microsoft should restructure the Control Panel? it's the same since Windows 95 :)
Come on Gordon, you hate Macs more than this ;) but calling windows 7 a brand new windows? That's being Microsoft Apologist ....
and finally, a list of "Mac OSXs" and what's "new". not "features"
10.0 Cheetah
10.1 Puma was a free update
10.2 Jaguar: Bonjour, Quartz Extreme, iChat, Inkwell (handwriting recognition)
10.3 Panther: FileVault (file encryption), Safari (replacing IE for mac , good times), X11
10.4 Tiger:Spotlight (Search), Dashboard, VoiceOver, free SDK, Automator, Grapher, Dictionary, Quartz Composer, AU Lab don't forget the switch from PPC to x86 architecture
10.5 Leopard: too many to list, on the development side applications
10.6 Snow Leopard: this is the first time that Apple released a "upgrade" version of their OS. I am sure they will sell a full $129 (that's so expensive compared to what ultimate windows cost, no I'm not counting inferior tiers). This will abandon PPC, OpenCL support, multicore programming, 64-bit,,, as for "visual" changes, how about a change to Stacks, hope you like it ;)
Submitted by jcollins on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 5:44pm
I vote for more Gordon rants with a British accent.
Great podcast guys!
Submitted by CTskifreak on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 10:19pm
Great podcast guys!
wont the iphone 3gs cost u
Submitted by nicknack171 on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 6:32pm
wont the iphone 3gs cost u 600$ or something
Submitted by jcollins on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 5:46pm
It depends on the amount of memory you get. In Will's case, he's probably going to be able to get the largest subsidized version for a decent price since he was on the first gen iPhone (should be close to 2 years now). If he had the 3G he'd be screwed.
Submitted by Khaled on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 10:33pm
I will never understand those "contracts" ... pay as you go remains the best way. And not paying to receive calls/sms is good too
Submitted by jcollins on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 3:27pm
My understanding is that it is mainly an American thing. Cheaper is better and subsidized = cheap phones (even though you pay for it over time).
Submitted by Khaled on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 3:37pm
Here in Saudi Arabia all phones are not locked, numbers are "pay as you go".
Sure high end phones are expensive (over $500) but that only means a big second hand market.
When the iPhone was released here in Feb it came with a year contract, the concept of subsidy is new though. At least the iPhone is unlocked ;)
Submitted by willsmith on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 4:22pm
The contract thing is a scam, but the carriers limit the high-end phones to the contract plans so we don't really have a choice. don't think there are pay-as-you-go smartphones here, even.
The best part is that if you pay full price for the phone, you don't get a discount on service. The only benefit is that you can drop the contract at any time. However, since the only GSM carrier with decent coverage in the US is AT&T, there's no where else to go.
Gordon should really buy the
Submitted by Tunnel_Vision on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 3:28pm
Gordon should really buy the ink soap...that would be hilarious to hear about.
Submitted by jcollins on Sun, 06/14/2009 - 11:59am
I'm not sure which would be funnier. If the guy that stole the soap uses it, or if Gordon forgets and accidentally uses it...
Submitted by anonuser on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 3:17pm
Hahaha Will didn't have a 3G he had an OG--Original Gangster version. That's THE REAL Will Smith we all know and love.
Submitted by JDK on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 3:11pm
I haven't listened to the podcast yet but I'm curious to hear your guy's take on Bing. I only used it for about a solid hour throwing everything at it that I would normally search along with as much weird stuff that I could think of side by side with Google.
The return results were 100% identical 100% of the time.
Submitted by Pureoverclocking on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 2:52pm
just order my new S, suck that you guys can up grade.
Submitted by Khaled on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 10:35pm
I really hope AT&T have an HSDPA supported cell tower near you or the 7.2mbps data connection will be useless :(
Submitted by Khaled on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 10:35pm
I really hope AT&T have an HSDPA supported cell tower near you or the 7.2mbps data connection will be useless :(
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