Microsoft Announces Xbox One Console

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FireGarden

Is the new Kinnect sensor likely to come to the PC does anybody know? It sounds pretty good and not just for games.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Now GameStop will have to pay Microsoft a restocking fee for all used games it buys.

LOL.

This piece of shit is nothing more than a DRM time bomb.

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bensen408

Big whoop. My current PC has better specs.

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limitbreaker

pc specs are completely irrelevant, consoles are way more efficient than the PC and will need way less power to achieve the same thing. It's like comparing the specs of a truck to a car, the truck may have more horse power than the car but that doesn't mean that it'll win the race.

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jbitzer

It might if it's an off road race.

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peteyj222

You know, i think i saw an anime one time about a gaming console that was supposed to be the one and only home entertainment system you would ever need or want to use. It didn't turn out well, there techno-organic mutants and a reality warping hive-mind that was behind it all. Now ... what we need to figure out before Microsoft starts selling these damn things is where do we get the plucky kid to fight The One.

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brannank

Best XBOX ONE Rant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SyD1VlQdj2s

I'll be buying a PS4 this Christmas;P

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Vecna6667

I'm a bit more partial to this rant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKm94T0jfzQ&list=UUVtEytgcL5fZcSiKx-BjimQ&index=1

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Scatter

So probable dumb question here.

Can a person actually replace their Comcast converter box with an Xbox 1?

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The Mac

doubtful, no tuners...

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jbitzer

Nope, it has an HDMI in for your crapcast cable box. Just another screwing of the consumer.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

The Phil Harrison interview is so guarded, so carefully orchestrated, that it is obvious Microsoft is hoping to mislead the public as much as possible before the system hits store shelves.

A lot of people own Xbox 360's but can't afford monthly Internet access. They won't be able to use the DRM-heavy Xbox One. They won't be able to set up their accounts, sign their lives away, or any such nonsense. They'll have $600 paper weights and games that won't play.

And then the returns start....

Phil Harrison: "Your reality is whatever we announce it to be."

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John Pombrio

92-Core x500 P2W (G4-Jig system), 2F3 DLX silver frame technology, 2/5/5/MP2s zoomnet capability, Zip control (TV/satellite/laptop), 3.1.8 optical input-output, 34V-876-ZZB, custom 2x cross-memory feedback, DVD

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Xiinc37

So, last gen it was:

Sony: 1337 hardware (at the time)
MS: Games
Nintendo: WIGGLE WAGGLE

This gen it's:

Sony: Games
MS: TV
Nintendo: How do I into games console?

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herk427

Say hello to "Gaming Evolved" and goodbye to "The Way It's Ment to Be Played".

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iheartpcs

Fuckin' fish better get out of my way!

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Nixon

Lol, these ad-spammers...

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acidic

this basically sums up the whole presentation in 1:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

speaking of tv,tv,and more tv

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/

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germanogre

A lot of Microsoft hate on that website...

The old-school F-type coaxial cable used by most people to connect their cable boxes to their TVs can't carry the information needed to allow the Xbox to interact with the cable guide, at least not without:

A: Experiencing severe latency issues
B: Requiring a lot of extra programming to figure out user channel requests
C: Requiring extra hardware that's probably not worth the cost

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calvryn

germanogre there should be enough bandwith to have the xbox interact with the cable guide. In each 6 mhz carrier alone there is over 38mb/s of speed available on a digital 256QAM system. This can allow each carrier to hold 2 HD channels or even a single 3d HD channel.

The cable system you are on can be either 550mhz 750 mhz or even 860 MHZ which is then broken down into several portions: Return or up band for Digital phone/EPG(Electronic Program Guide)/internet, then the Down band which is your digital channels and downloading ability for the internet, and finally the analog channels. The analog channels take up an inordinate amount of space due to the limitations on compression of this type of signal.

However, even with all of these services running on one cable system there is still plenty of room to add on a back and forth line of communication between a set top box and the DSLAM or head end.

And keep in mind Im only discussing the typical hybrid fiber to the node system found in most major cities (old school F-Type Coaxial cable in the home). Im not even discussing fiber to the curb or even to the NID found in a few very fortunate areas.

And all this is based on each company to grant the Xbox its own carrier.. which it will not. more than likely the XBox will find the region its located in via IP and then simply tuen to the proper band to download the guide info.

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The Mac

probably not, most likely it will use the Media Center EPG provided by Zaptoit.

In order to use the cable provider guide, they'd need basically need QAM tuners as im pretty sure the guide data is encrypted. If they are going to do that you might as well allow clear-qam, and/or cablecard access since most of the circuitry is already there.

I doubt theyll do that as QAM tuners put out a buttload of heat, cablecard decryption even more, and they are working with a pretty thin thermal envelope as it is with the GPU/CPU...

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calvryn

Well said MaC

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germanogre

I'll be getting this, if only because of Forza and that most of my online friends don't have gaming pc's.

What I'm really excited about is the probable increase in console port quality. It may also lead to simultaneous releases of pc and console versions of games.

It's about damn time they caught up, even if they will still be slower than my pc that was upgraded last year.

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misterz100

It just me or are consoles being more and more PCs? With controllers, next thing you know they will enable mouse and keyboard on all console games XD Well I already have a awesome PC no need to get any of this.

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fung0

It even sounds like the XboxO and PS4 will both use virtually the same x86 CPU. Could they make it any more obvious just how redundant these devices really are? What you're buying is a DRM-laden PC, running some bizarro proprietary OS, that's not even compatible with previous iterations of its own product line. Oh, boy - sign me up!!

Easier console ports for the PC? Who cares. The better games (like Borderlands) are already cross-platform. Modern Warfare is equally idiotic on any platform. And the remaining console crud (like Halo) is perfectly welcome to stay in the playpen.

And for this the XboxO needs to run THREE OSes? Wow.

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drevas

It seems MS designed this thing with Apple in their crosshairs instead of Sony. MS is fixated on Apple. Nobody even knows what Apple TV is going to actually look like, but MS is already competing with it.

I like the fact that Sony is focused on the PS4 being a Game Console. They believe they might even not have to take a loss on the hardware. That would be great.

I primarily game on the PC, but games like NCAA Football and Madden require that I have a Console around. I gave away my 360 and have just a Wii and a PS3 hooked up. I will probably go with the PS4 if the pricing makes sense. I have a decent home theatre PC, I don't need the xtra bells and whistles of the XBOX1.

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xRadeon

Don't want to troll but, fact check --> http://www.apple.com/appletv/ (and it's already on it's 3rd generation)

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jonainpdx

Will it work with Oculus Rift? If not, I'll stick to the massively rad, 3d Capable PC.

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AFDozerman

I still don't understand why I wouldn't just get a mid range PC and be able to use it as, you know, a computer too....

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Nixon

I want that controller so I can replace my PC gamepad. Looks like better quality, and the d-pad is supposed to be better (hopefully the rubber plastic doesn't easily wear down in time.)
I wonder if it's going to be compatible though?

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iheartpcs

Xbox 360 joysticks work on PCs.

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acidic

this just keeps getting better and better. im glad i havent touched my 360 in 6 or 8 months and this just puts the icing on the cake as far as the "next-gen". it has been real and fun xbox but not real fun

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

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gothliciouz

did they mention whether it will require a persistent online connection to play any games?

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xRadeon

"Put simply, Microsoft's new Xbox One console needs an internet connection, but it doesn't need to be connected all of the time to allow for internet interruptions." (http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/22/4354796/xbox-one-always-online-requirement-used-games-confusion)

So nope it doesn't.

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majorsuave

Basically, some games might require it but it is not mandatory. However, as with Steam, Origin and other services, it might require a one time activation online.

The way I heard it is up to the devs to use online functionality with their games.

Of course, you need a connection to play MP matches but I doubt it will be required to play COD Ghosts in campaign mode for instance.

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big_montana

No persistent online connection required. "The company says that it will require an Internet connection at least some of the time, however. The console will use its "mostly on" Internet connection to perform system management tasks such as downloading updates in the background, backing up game saves to cloud storage, and synchronizing things like the TV shows or movies that you're watching between consoles so that you can start watching a film on one device and pick up where you left off on another.

Games will also be required to be installed to the hard disk and won't need optical media to play."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/xbox-one-not-always-on-not-backwards-compatible/

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Electrik

I suspect that games will go the same route as new MS and Adobe productivity software, you will soon download and rent them instead of owning an actual disk. Fret not, you will have a nice choice of subscription plans.

Time to fire up that game & movie cloning software and hit the Blockbuster while you still can. But, you didn't hear that from me.

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jako800

From IGN:
It remains unclear whether or not the Xbox One is an always-online console. In an interview with Kotaku, Microsoft vice president Phil Harrison provided a bit of muddled clarification regarding the console's online strategy.

"There are many devices in your life that require the Internet to function," he said. "Xbox One is no different in that it requires, at some point in the beginning and at various times through its on state, to connect to our cloud and to our Internet."

When Kotaku's Stephen Totilo pressed Harrison on the specifics of how long you could be offline before the Xbox One stopped you from playing a single-player game, Harrison responded with, "I believe it’s 24 hours."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-doesnt-require-internet-connection

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

They are pissing away all the customers who have 360's without an Internet connection, who cannot afford an Internet connection, but still want to play games.

The men in charge of Microsoft are hyper-insulated, elitist, coke-snorting morons.

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iheartpcs

+1

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John Pombrio

And to think that I was just complaining about how the blu-ray player in the PS3 was useless to me! On my 40 inch 1080P set, I can hardly see the difference from 6 foot away. Perhaps if 4K TVs catch on but there isn't room in my house for a bigger TV and shoving more pixels into 40 inches is not going to be a selling point for me. Just more room for bigger installs and a blu-ray ROM is pretty cheap these days.

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vrmlbasic

I can agree that 1920*1080 is too low a resolution, especially for a 40" TV. I just don't see how you don't really see the difference in 1920*1080 native content and other, I'm assuming 720*480 DVD-grade video, from 6'+ away.

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jbitzer

If you can't see the difference between DVD and bluray, you are either retarded, blind, or a troll.

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limitbreaker

or.... a senior citizen, most people over the age of 60 can't tell the difference between SD and HD.

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fung0

Just try it for yourself. It's well known in the TV industry that you need screens larger than 40" and/or a much closer viewing distance to see any difference between 720p and 1080p. I didn't believe it, until one of the manufacturers gave me a demo. At six feet with a 40" screen, most people can barely tell the difference between a well-mastered DVD and Blu-ray.

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limitbreaker

Aren't DVDs 480i?

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jbitzer

DVDs are 480p. The guy above you is just a perfect example of having heard a little bit of information and thinking he's an expert.

SD Tv broadcasts are 480i, most HD is in 720p, DVD is 480p, and bluray is 1080p.

If you can't tell the difference between the blurry, soft edged DVD picture quality, and "can count his nose hairs" sharpness of bluray, you should go back to a 25" CRT, you're wasting money on anything better.

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g8147

Basically an advanced 2013 hardware upgrade of the xbox 360 + kinect. This is not really a bad thing since the kinect is good and makes the xbox 360 standout. They could've really done something more to the physical design though, the black box is not appealling

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DarkStarX

I actually like that it looks like a standard component that you would find in an entertainment center (although in the name of full disclosure my 360 is the Gear of War edition. lol!)

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devin3627

the hardware deals aren't finalized. they are trying to prevent a "ring of death" fiasco. even if that means spending more money on "heatpads." two pennies in electrician tape offer better heat. :)

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