Windows Phone 7 Sales Off to Slow Start, 40k on Opening Day

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eli

I want a WP7 but i dont like any of ATTs offerings. im tied to ATT because of work. i want the HTC HD3 or maybe the Dell phone

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Biggins

There have been reports around the web that MS has only sold 40,000 phones on the first day. That sounds really low and is probably inaccurate. I didn't know the launch date until I started looking at news reports around the web a couple of days ago. I think MS didn't spend as much money as Google and Apple on marketing and people just don't know that WP7 exists. I don't think it's necessary to sell 5 million phones on the first day to be successful. Android is a good example of that.

I have stayed away from smartphones because I didn't want to pay an extra $50 a month to get email and the internet on my phone. I already have the internet at home and work, why would I need it the other 1 hour a day when I'm not at either place? I looked at AT&T's website and it appears the monthly cost has come down so I may consider upgrading.

There are 3 handsets available (1 for pre-order) through AT&T. The Samsung Focus looks like it has the best features although some reviews complain of the cheap plastic feel. The LG Quantum has a physical keyboard and the HTC Surround has some "good" speakers.

The last phone I bought was unlocked because I didn't want to sign a 2 year contract with AT&T. I looked at some eTailers to see if they had any WP7 unlocked phones but didn't find any. If they did, it would probably cost $400 or $500. That's too much for a phone that will only last 2 years. I probably wait another month before getting a WP7 phone.

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sammy_sam

Let's not forget some people are still locked into yearly contracts...and can't jump into a new phone on launch day.  Give it time...

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_Jono_

microSD slot? What's up with micro SD compatibility issues I'm hearing about? It makes me a little uneasy to know I can void the warranty on a nice new Dell Venue Pro by simply upgrading the memory? I'm only willing to buy a phone that can replace my ipod. 8GB doesn't cut it Microsoft.. sorry. I keep hearing about special specifications for these cards to be WP7 compatible but haven't found those technical specs anywhere yet. So I'm checking newegg out and i noticed certain "speed" class ratings that I'm trying to find a few more details about. I would have assumed any Sandisk card would be high-quality enough for WP7 but noticed Kingston had a few 32GB cards with a "class 4" rating as opposed to Sandisk's class 2. What does it all mean? Someone halp. The smoke screen is making me a wary first-adopter.

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albe23

Some devices have support for micro SD (Samsung Focus), others don't (HTC Surround).  Although the surround comes with 16Gb as opposed to the Focus's and most others 8Gb.  The focus has a problem now that if you want to swap out your micro SD you have to reset the phone.  Not a huge problem if you just chuck a huge one in off the get go.  The issues you have been hearing about the cards though is that a you need basically a high quality card, that meets or exceeds the read/write, randoms, etc.  So far there are some good sources on which cards are compatible.  Its an annoying thing to have to deal with but workable.  I wouldn't let it scare you off.

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TKETZ196

I think Windows Phone 7 does have a shot. They need to push their products more in the stores themselves. I think it would be smart for AT&T and T-Mobile to have bigger displays, and their sales teams to encourage the choice range rather than just kinda brush it aside. An Idea I thought of was for MSFT would put up temporary kiosks (in malls) with their demos. They display the range of phones from the carriers & manufacturers and be able to buy a phone and activate it there (like apple stores do with the iPhones), or contract free. Commercials on TV and internet are not enough because of lack of hands on experience. Proper marketing is crucial, so I hope they will be able to push the products. They may have more success in some other countries.

I think overall MSFT is on the upswing. I enjoy using Windows Mobile on my HTC Fuze and I haven't really needed to reboot the device, nor has the phone ever froze. I like how it was a true pocket pc and the customizations and tweaking is great. I like being able to adjust how I want my phone to look and behave.

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_Jono_

There's just something about being able to touch and sample a product before buying that Microsoft doesn't seem to understand. Would I buy a car, new or used, from online without ever test-driving it? Even if I wanted to purchase a WP7 I wouldn't know which one to choose. I'm looking at the Samsung or Dell Venue Pro, but it's only offered in Microsoft stores and soon, from Dell.com.. If I have to wait too long I think I'll pick up a Nexus 2. Plus I'm looking for a phone that is going to replace my ipod. 6-8GB doesn't cut it. It needs to have at bare minimum a microSD slot for external storage. It doesn't matter how many apps are available if my phone's storage fills up too soon.

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albe23

The samsung has expandable memory, up to 32Gb provided you get a compatable card.  I've played with the Samsung in store and it has a fantastic screen and a good camera.  Let alone the OS is kick ass.  I did however swing for the HTC surround, not as good of a screen as the Samsung (but still dam good, its not crap).  The Surround is definitely hefitier, but not that heavy, and thicker but not that thick either.  The speaker is a great feature for showing people vids on the go, or jamming out with a stereo isn't near.  It's not audiophile quality and the surround sound is suspect but its the best pair of phone speakers you will ever hear.

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BenMo

I've been holding out on a new phone purchase for some time.  I've been hesitant to give up my BlackBerry but I've been envious of the flashy touch screens even though my larger hands have a hard time with the typing using the on-screen keyboards.  I haven't been impressed with the GUIs of the iPhone or the Android but the WP7 interface has a more mature and visually attractive display to it.  I'm finishing school in information security and infrastructure and I have absolutely no desire to spend another hour a day or more trying to root my phone, install applications, or f around with widgets.  I just want something that gives me great access to fb and the internet that also serves as a phone.  WP7 does that with a uniform OS in a controlled but, varied hardware platform.  It's actually very similar to BlackBerry in that sense; maybe that's why I like it.

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albe23

I just bought the HTC Surround, I might take it back for the Samsung Focus I dunno yet.  But the OS is outstanding, even with its short comings which are pretty minor but still head scratchers.  The setup of the phone is stupidly easy if you have a win live account and if you have facebook and whatever else linked to it then its super stupidly easy to set up.  Took me 5 min to transfer contacts from SIM after singing in and I was done.  Oh and the setup for fist connecting to Zune is laughably faster than apple, plus the drag drop insta syncing is awesome.  Trust me just go check them out and you will never want another OS.  Even my android fan boy friends were lowering their heads when I could show them how easy it was to do things on the device.

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nadako

I know beth goza from the WP7 ambasader event and some of us "ambassaders" emailed this artical and beth said they are pulling these numbers out of their ass. Microsft hasnt released any marketing info about the phone's sales to anyone.

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Victek

The most obvious unique feature in WP7 is the tile GUI.  It makes for very easy touch interaction.  Perhaps it's not an issue for younger users, but as you get older it gets harder to read tiny fonts and touch tiny icons with a fingernail.  You don't need a magnifying glass for the WP7 interface.  There is also (finally) full integration with Hotmail/Live email accounts including calendars.  It will get better with time as more apps are written (such as Google Voice) and a CDMA version becomes available for Verizon.  Give it a little time!

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GuyClinch

People are down on windows phone - but that's a mistake. I get their arguments - why are they bringing new to the table? And its already been done.

What Microsoft brings to the table is certainly subtle for the end user. But its still powerful. Microsoft has the best development tools BAR NONE. You can develop for the windows phone and very easily cross it over to the XBOX network and Windows.

This is similar to why PC gaming is so much better then Mac - its because Microsoft worked very hard to create very nice developer libraries like Direct X. Now when you make a XBOX 360 game its trivial to port it over to the PC (or the other way around).

This is what Microsoft brings - they are software company and they make some very nice software. They have some of the best engineers/programmers and they have a huge budget to spend on new platforms as Windows/Office is like a money making machine.

Microsoft will go after RIM in the short run but in the long run they really are a credible threat. Apple's Iphone only has developer support because its so popular. It's incredibly cumbersome to program for. And while the Droid is better - the open source factor doesn't help the end user at all really. The individual vendors all lock those phones down.

The Iphone will face the most competition in the long run - and will eventually slip into third place. In the software business you can copy things in about six months to a year. It's even easier with superior developmental tools.

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Trendecide

"The iPhone was really the real first smartphone"

No, no I'm afraid it wasn't... it just became more pronounced through brilliant marketing.  EVERYONE was skeptical when Apple converted it's iPod into a phone and it was a crappy phone at that when it started.  Apple did what it does best, take an existing concept and make it pretty.  Apple's no different today than what Microsoft was yesterday.  And the iPhone is currently having its falling out... simply put, Droid is [currently] a better product and the growth of the droid market this year reflects that fact.

And in comes Windows phones.  Why the low sales?  I believe its due large in part to an already saturated market in a weak economy.  The Windows phone just doesn't really offer anything more desirable than what's already available from iPhone and the Droid which are both wonderful products.  And who wants to fork out the cash for a Windows phone when you've got great deals on Droid phones everywhere and the iPhone goin to Verizon in January?  Could Windows phones be marketable in the future?  Possibly, but it certainly isn't now... xbox integration just isn't enough.

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I Jedi

"No, no I'm afraid it wasn't... it just became more pronounced through brilliant marketing."

"The iPhone was really the real first smartphone, in the latter half of this past decade, that got the whole smartphone race started. Granted, there were other smartphones before it, but none of them captivated the market the way that the iPhone did"

Read it again, chief. I wasn't saying that the iPhone was the first real smartphone, but the first phone that captivated the market into the whole smartphone business in the latter half of this decade. I also have to disagree with you about the weak economy figures. Take the Epic 4G from Sprint, for example. Sprint reported that it was one of thee best selling phones that it has ever had on first day sales alone. Source: http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.com/2010/09/samsung-sprint-epic-4g-best-seller-first-day-sprint.html

We could also look at the iPhone 4 sales, which reported 1.7 million sold worldwide, and 500,000 thousand units sold by AT&T alone. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65O6FE20100628

"The Windows phone just doesn't really offer anything more desirable than what's already available from iPhone and the Droid which are both wonderful products."

Restating my point, thank you.

Now, I'm sure we can go back and forth, and point fingers, but at the end, I think its best to say that there are a lot of things that influence rather a phone succeeds or not.

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I Jedi

Before I start a flame war, please note that I have not reviewed the Windows phone 7 extensively myself.

Now, in my opinion, I do not see what Microsoft has to bring to the table, that would encourage adoption of their platform. The iPhone was really the real first smartphone, in the latter half of this past decade, that got the whole smartphone race started. Granted, there were other smartphones before it, but none of them captivated the market the way that the iPhone did. Now a days, the iPhone is seen as a cool phone to get; showing both coolness and money to spend; however, for us nerds, we know better than to fall prey to this trap that is Apple. The Android platform brings open source, along with less restrictive application approval for the Android market, which has helped Android's position in both respects. Of course, we can't discount the fact that Android also has litterally 50 + phones out in the market, which has extremely helped them along the way, too. Going back to WP7, what does it bring to the table? I don't believe it brings much to the table. A new OS, connectivity with other Microsoft contacts (Xbox, Hotmail, etc), but there really isn't anything revolutionary so far from the platform itself. I may be mistaken, but Microsoft has really shot itself in the foot with their past generation of smartphones. Do I believe that they will never catch up, no. Microsoft has always found ways to bring itself back from the edge, and I am certain that they can still capture a fair share of the market, if they deal their cards right.

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ocnier

I agree with all the points in your statement.  My gut feeling is that they think they can leverage the Xbox 360 community to sales increases.  A gutsy call but one i think is flawed.  The main problem from a design/devolpment standpoint for me is that essentially they are one generation behind Androing and two generations behind Apple.  That's a lot of ground to make up on first iteration.  I think MS will take a big loss on this but if they can weather the storm and produce a winmob phone ver 2.0 by the end of next summer (yes i know that release schedule is damn harsh but they don't have a choice) then i think they are in the game.  Eitherway the I think the phone won't be a major seller this holiday season (if nothing else the only major carrier is AT&T, i don't count T-mobile though they are coming up fast- either option is a sales drag from a data standpoint). 

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