Windows Phone 7 Released to Manufacturing

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lunchbox73

Booo. Thanks for abandoning the Zune HD Microsoft. Your phone looks good but I spent hundreds on your forgotten media player that has zero marketing and zero app development. Either pull the plug on the Zune already or get your shit together.

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Fecal Face

Yeah, I own a ZuneHD, and the lack of attention they're giving it is kind of disappointing.

The only way I think they could "redeem themselves" is if they allowed WP7 apps to be used on the ZuneHD.

I mean seriously, we only have like 20 or so official apps. Sure they're free, but I wouldn't mind paying for some if it meant we'd have more.

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Fecal Face

DEFINITELY looking forward to getting one of these.

As long as they release it in Canada, although I don't see why not.

If they don't, whatever, I'll just get an android phone... ¯\(°_o)/¯

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TechJunkie

I bet the hardware will be nice but that's about it. They have revamped (even though they listened to consumers) the core so much that you just can't even call it a business device anymore. No multitasking! There is less multitasking on WP7 then there is on the iphone....that's one mistake. They have integrated xbox live so much into this thing that it's more of a gaming device....mistake number two as they will lose most of the corporate winmo users because most could careless about gaming. I just can't see a 50 year old CEO fragging on halo to pass time. It's total integration of social networking sites is mistake number three. To be able to sync with them is one thing but doing it on it's own (even though filtering is now user enabled) is assinine. Most want control over their contacts. I know I do. But instead of "competing" with android and iphone, why don't they incorporate the core winmo technology with a superior UI? This way it has the look and feel of android/iphone but the robustness for business users. I Just don't see it happenin' as this caters now to the romper room socialistic socialites. I also don't see apps flying into it's market...it's just to little to late.

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Ashton2091

it depends on how you look at it. right now winmo has nearly the entire corporate base. prob with that is, it's not enough. i must say it does have features for corporate users. you should google that a bit more. if you think that the xbox live feature is the entire phone, you've only seen a small portion of it. it's far more than a revamped ui. anyways, getting to the point...if microsoft wants to stay in the mobile game...this is a move that they HAVE to make. i mean, android and iOS are not suited for corporate users either. i guess that's what made winmo so good, so i see your point. even when everyone else cared nothing about corporate, microsoft continued support. but, again...this is a business move. as far as phones are concerned...it's all about the consumer experience these days. i too hope that maybe this is just a step toward before corporate usability. maybe once phone 7 breaks through...they will do more with that. if i'm correct, i think they are doing one last 6.5 update for corporate. which is kind of cheap. finishing this off...i see where you're coming from. i think there should be two versions of phone 7. cause microsoft def can't skip out on the consumer base. thats the exact reason why winmo was in trouble in the first place. the consumer base is enormous and shouldn't be overlooked.

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TechJunkie

I see your point. It does incorporate some corporate features but they seem to have put that on the back burner. IMHO, winmo didn't lose it's credibility soley on the software itself but hardware as well. I mean, winmo crashed...alot, was slow, sluggish, hardly an app worth a damn, and just plain boring. But look at the hardware it was on, such as the TP. That phone is by no means a speed demon in any sense of the word. But those were M$'s specs to developers if they wanted to use winmo in their phones. Also, the lack of updates that M$ sought not to push because in the corporate world, there wasn't any competition, destroyed the loyalty of it's user base...including mine. Android isn't based for corporate, but it can do a much better job than wino 6.5 at this point simply because it doesn't crash. Your right though, it is about user experience. But it seems the user they are trying to attract is the younger tween generation with all it's social network and xbox integration, losing sight of the core foundation winmo was developed to do. I'm all for a revamped UI that's fluid, smooth, slick, neat, and etc, but not for my phone to pull 1000 contacts from my social sites, half of which I don't really know, and half my screen taken up by a huge XBOX logo and link. It is a business move. But I think they lost sight of what winmo was designed to do by appeasing both the tweeners and corp. users by slamming it all into one phone.

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Ashton2091

very good point. you reminded me of the day i synced my live account with facebook. then i installed live on my htc tilt, only to have both my live contacts and fb contacts creating duplicates. it would be nice if they could find a good balance between the two. lol, they are definitely shooting for the tweens. thinking back on my last line about how the consumer market shouldn't be overlooked...neither should corporate. hmm...so i guess that means that corporate users will be left with having to settle for super old phones such as the tilt and/or android phones. atleast with android they have access to google docs and related apps. as incomplete that solution is...it's prob what it will come down to. i hope microsoft has a corporate trick up their sleeves or they could loose em and google will scoop them up. you make very good points and opened my eyes a bit more

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TechJunkie

Don't think for a second you didn't make me think too! I had to re-read your post over and over to rebut what you said!!! LOL

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Oedipus_Rex

As soon as it has storage expansion, file management and cut and paste, I will think about the possibility of maybe buying one of these phones.  Otherwise, I'm thinking maybe a G2.

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Ashton2091

i've already set back cash to pick up a device when they drop. only as a test device though. but if they treat this like windows 7 (desktop) they will have a huge hit on their hands. they're finally paying attention to the consumer market. it's still a bit iffy cause they are returning to the game a bit late. but i have confidence. if they market phone 7 the right way...it will do well. it will be nice to have more choices than iOS and android. i don't even count WebOS cause, i'm not a palm user. i gotta say, im pretty excited...and its hard to get me excited.

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