Windows 8 Sales Reach 100 Million Licenses, Should Microsoft Reverse Course?

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PCWolf

The Public has spoken, Windows 8 = FAIL.

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Zanshi

Oh, stop it. Given the uptake of 8 vs *Vista*, it's clear that people don't like 8. At. All. Deal with it.

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jgottberg

Have you even used it? Been using my RT now for several months and actually prefer the OS to iOS. As far as a desktop OS, I do agree that it's a little disjointed but is it the absolute worse OS I've ever used? Nope, not even close.

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DoctorX

yes for 15 months... you get over it. You are a minority.

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xRadeon

I agree...

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zsargent

I don't understand the stubbornness over a damn menu. Seriously. It's a button. Put it back! What happened to "the customer is always right"? Microsoft, this is your "easy button!" Push the button and double your sales. Your customers are demanding it ... and it won't be long before your shareholders do, too. I'm not sure my 3-year-old is this stubborn.

I LIKE Metro. If you set it up, if you use an XBox Kinnect (and my guess, the upcoming Leap Motion controller), it's a nice interface. But you have to put work into it, so right away, that's a pain. The things you want to do with it are not intuitive. You have to do similar things for Android and iPad, too ... they are just easier.

I think you could FIX Windows 8 sales by doing two things: (1) Allowing a "folder" construct (or bundle, like Android) in the Metro UI. (2) Start Button.

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PCWolf

To boost Windows 8 Sales & end all the complaints, they need:

1: Put Start Button Back
2: Option to Boot Directly to Desktop instead of the new Tile UI.

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jgottberg

so basically, you want to continue using Windows 7 - have fun. That mentality kind of goes against everything an enthusiast is supposed to stand for.

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evertroy

We want an upgrade that doesn't look like a toy.

You can't GET OVER IT if you have to look at and use it all the time.

People hate Windows 8, get over it!

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DoctorX

nope... we want all the undercover improvements (which some are very nice like much more optimized for more than 4 cores) without all the pos metro crap. For me, they should have done all the undercover stuff (there is a bunch btw) and not touched the ui, I would be very very happy. I would recommend to everyone i do support for to upgrade.

An enthusiast would know this.. but only a user would completely ignore that.

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Righteous Fury

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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FireGarden

+100

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jgottberg

I dig the folder idea on the Metro UI page. I have thought the same thing.

I also think that all apps need to launch as though they are native Metro apps. For example, if I launch Word from a tile, it backs me out to the Desktop. If I close Word, there I am, sitting at a blank desktop. Shouldn't it take me BACK to the Metro UI? Why do I have to swipe the right side of the screen and then select the Metro UI again?

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DoctorX

yea... that would help, but 2 more issues i have metro... I disable UAC because it does not protect any better and just gets in the way. That kills metro apps. 2... why the hell cant the metro version of the same app in desktop share the same info? they are completely separate. Which brings me to my number one beef with Windows 8. It isnt microsoft's damned computer, it is mine. I will morph it to however the hell i want to.

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jgottberg

I can't argue the UAC - it's a pain in the ass for sure. The only thing UAC prevents is me being as productive as I might be otherwise.

I haven't noticed the Metro/Desktop App info sharing thing though...That's interesting. Like which apps?

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pidge2k

I bought a Windows 8 license but its collecting dust since I reverted back to Win7.

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Zanshi

Same here. I had the latest wireless card drivers for my laptop and Windows 8 *still* dropped the connection. Constantly, btw. iTunes had a random error I couldn't get rid of. Windows 8 insisted I sign in at every turn to my Microsoft account (what if I wanted to play Majong offline? I still got nagged). The Start screen became bearable after some use, but Start8 really helped. Stardock's new program to allw apps to run as windows in Desktop Mode will slodify it, but those irksome other bugs is what the deal-breaker was for me.

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kellytm3

Some of us are laughing at the sheep who actually pay MS to use their OS

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methuselah

Please, I'm interested to hear your own personal justification on how stealing is OK.

Will you equally laugh at the "Sheep" that come to your house and steal your car?

Because, by your reasoning, it's OK to take something w/out paying for it.

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kellytm3

Justification...Windows Vista...Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice shame on me.

Keep on feeding the MS beast, safe to assume you support Obama as well.

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methuselah

I always find it comical how someone justifies theft.

Although I do not agree w/ all the iterations of MS Windows (you're correct about the crapware called Vista), it does not justify blatant stealing.

It's fine if you want to steal software, just don't hide behind your own interpretation of what theft is. At least man up and admit you're a thief.

By the way, I'm no Obama fan and a pretty conservative republican sooo... yeah...

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Army Of One

So if Toyota sells me a bad car does that justify in giving me the right to steal the next one from them?

kellytm3,
Please have yourself spayed or neutered. The world if full of enough idiots, we don't need anymore.

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xRadeon

Good point.

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Granite

MS needs to stay the course.

By Christmas, nobody will be bitching about Win8...they'll just buy all the new machines out there and move on with their lives.

The naysayers will dwindle, fade and ultimately go away.

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evertroy

If they don't fix it with blue, people will just continue to migrate to iOS or android as the need for a REAL PC fades. Sure, there will always be a need for a traditional PC for say... work, but for the average user a tablet is perfect... unless it runs Windows 8. I work retail and I have so many customers telling me the built in apps dont work or their Wifi drops connections. I have yet a customer come back to me after selling them a Windows 8 PC and tell me they love it. I get more comments about "Hey, I'm still trying to figure it out", "How do you turn it off?" or "It keeps flipping my screen to another app when I use the track pad on my laptop."

Have you tried Windows 8 on a laptop that isn't touch and used the pad? If you are left handed like I am, and you use the left side of the track pad you are screwed because there is no way to turn that feature off.

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Granite

first of all, I don't use a trackpad on anything. On my Win7 laptop...wireless mouse. On my Asus android tablet w/keyboard...touch screen. On my non-touch Win8 desktop...wired mouse.

Trackpads suck...plain and simple.

Anyway, perhaps you should get a better class of customer. Those dummies who can't figure out Win8 are idiots. The Modern UI is simple. The normal desktop is Win7...but better.

Who cares if it doesn't have a fricken Start Button. I never needed that anyway.

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DoctorX

nope... i have ran this thing for 15 months... and it just got worse and worse..

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aarcane

What microsoft NEEDED to do, and SHOULD HAVE done, is defaulted to the classic desktop, but added something like the start screen instead of completely replacing everything. Keep the desktop the primary workspace, and ease the consumer into the new paradigm while simultaneously giving it at least 2 generations to mature before making it the primary interface.

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danwat1234

the former.

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methuselah

MS is so out of touch (no pun intended) if they thought their new start menu was an acceptable replacement.

It could be a good supplement/addon but not a replacement.

MS should admit their failure and add a REAL start menu.

Seriously, have you seen the process required to add a tile to the start menu? Grandma is not going understand this process.

Apple and Google are laughing all the way to the bank. Too bad, I hate Apple.

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vgrig

Guess what? We're buying 300 windows 8 licenses - and installing Win 7 with downgrade.
Who cares how many licenses are sold? How many PCs are running Win 8 OEM a week after sale? Not many i bet.

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zsargent

Excellent point.

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leo655

Most people have no choice when they buy a new PC.

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PCWolf

Only Dumb people have no choice when they Buy a new PC. It's easy to remove Windows 8 & put 7 back in.

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goodtime

exactly...so then wouldn't people eventually get used to the metro interface? At that point, wouldn't windows tablets and phones start to take off more since they already used the same interface as the desktop/laptop they have?

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wolfing

problem is... users (as in personal users) are not buying new computers as before (and will buy less and less, opting for tablets). Corporate users will be the main user-base, and most companies don't want to go through the training process to teach their employees how to do what they've been doing in a different way for over 10 years.

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Sirius

As a computer tech that provides third party support to different companies, I have seen a one of the two or three dozen major companies I've worked with provide an ounce of training on the actual use of a computer. Most companies expect you to either already know how to generally use an operating system, launch the software and use the applications like Microsoft Office, a web browser, and Outlook for email and calendar and scheduling. About the only training any of the employees get are on the proprietary software that particular company uses. And all those companies have a default image based on department that include the shortcuts already on the desktop straight to the software that person should be using. I don't see Windows 8 as being a hindrance to current operations of any of the companies I contract to. Of course I don't see them going to Windows 8 either considering all of them are just now rolling out Windows 7 after having been on XP. It's too expensive to test and plan a roll out of an OS corporate wide to do it as often as new versions come out. One in particular just finished upgrading to XP corporate wide by mid 2006. Now they have started rolling out Windows 7. Before XP, they were still mostly using Windows 95 with a few departments using Windows 2000.

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