Windows 8 Pricing Returns to Normal in February – Is $200 too Expensive?

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Baer

Nope, not true. I have to start to teach WIn 8 next month so I have had to really learn it and benchmark it. Once you learn how to do things it is fine and the performance and speed is actually quite good. I just love those one line comments "It sucks" with all their detailed technical specifics.
That's OK, usually sometime after your 15th birthday you start to get a little more verbose and provide more details than "it sucks" or something to that ilk.

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MaximumPC_Reader

Windows needs to be reinvented. It takes far too much effort to accomplish simple tasks.
To change the PC UI to suit touch screens is just plain lazy, and not a good way to build your customer database. Microsoft still thinks they have a monopoly and can force people to use their OS. Well more options are out there, and anything over $100 is too much, but Microsoft software, and games have always been overpriced. Windows 7 SP1 is the best OS for PC Microsoft has ever made. If they want to start building hardware (tablets) like Apple with Windows 8 preinstalled that's fine, as long as it's a tablet, not a PC.

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lordfirefox

The digital editon of Pro is $40. If you want to save a few bucks get the Digital edition and the WMC upgrade. It comes with a downloader that will put the files on a USB drive so you won't have to do it manually. It says upgrade but it's NOT the upgrade edition it is the full digital edition.

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nbrowser

Ok let me say this, I'm not a Mac deciple, but I own one in addition to my insane balls to the walls Windows 7 gaming rig now lets have a lil history lesson shall we.

Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 was sold for oh $79.99 single seat, Snow Leopard 10.6 I think I picked it up for $30 retail, Lion, $20 and the latest Mountain Lion is also $20 all with what I can see is improvements along the way.

Now we got Windows 8, which in retail you can get an upgrade disc for Windows 8 Pro for $70, and it's not selling well.....how on earth will Microshit think they are gonna sell it at $200 ? If Microshit wants to make a few bucks and sell mondo copies, drop the price to $20......drop the multiple versions (Win 8, Win 8 Pro Enterprise etc.) and learn from competition, one version, cheap and will cause less confusion, oh wait Im making too much damn sense.

Seriously, I feel sorry for all those who picked up Windows 7 Home Premium for use with their systems to find out it was gimped to 16Gb system RAM, you wanted more, you had to spring for Professional, little things like this piss people off. Microsoft, stop screwing the customer for once and start listening asshats.

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whr4usa

you're ignoring that Apple sells their equivalent of microsoft's service packages as new minor releases

also when windows 7 was released 16GB was the maximum memory any single-socket chipset would support and there are many other features in pro that are good for gamers nor is it much more costly

also what were you going to be doing while gaming that'd use that much memory..? all games are 32-bit and thus can only use 2GB of memory... they *CAN* use a full 4GB on 64-bit OS but you must configure them to do so manually and some legacy games don't play nicely pun intended

XP's codebase and versioning was a disaster
vista had 34 editions
7 had 29 editions
8 has 14
I don't see a problem with this trend, do you?

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Baer

Well said.
How much did you pay for SP1? Perhaps MS should have called it Sand Dog or something and sold it for ten bucks??!!??

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Engelsstaub

lol...as long as it's not named after a species of feline.

It's true though. I don't mind paying the modest cost to upgrade OS X but let's not kid ourselves. MS isn't cranking out "new OSes" at the same rate as Apple is. I went from Snow Leopard to Lion to Mt Lion while Win 7 was still the most current Windows OS. (Still came out to less than fifty bucks though...but still...good point. Just a bad comparison and MS shouldn't be knocked for their business model. Seems fair enough.)

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PDX-1337

Well, Microsoft has been making money all this time pricing their OS around $200 retail, and Apple is no where near their market share by pricing theirs at $20 or $30.

Also, 16GB or RAM is more than plenty, yes it sucks to get capped at any level, but I too have a gaming rig that will run any game out there, and run it well, and I currently have 8GB of memory installed.

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Engelsstaub

They've been making their money off OEM-pre-installations. I don't know anyone who buys retail copies of Windows. Maybe some businesses, but not regular consumers (whom they owe their marketshare to.)

...that and "licensing fees" from open-source Linux vendors just because they trump Windows in server-marketshare.

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whr4usa

sort of hard to accurately measure server marketshare but gone are the days when enterprise linux was far superior to windows server in every way

where server marketshare really matters is in the virtualization world, where vmware is king but stagnant and microsoft is the rising star with open-source hypervisors failing miserably, only RHEL's harnessing of KVM staying in the race

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DoctorX

again... bullshit...

I work for a multinational multibillion dollar company. hyper-v major fail... kvm not very good... vmware good.

Microsoft has been relegated to projects that must have a business case to. Otherwise everything is being put on linux. The answer on if you can use microsoft products is no unless you have a vp and svp permission. Legacy programs can still get microsoft, but must have a long term plan to go linux.

The reason? Too pricy, too proprietary, and not robust enough. Server 2012 for now will not be deployed due to the metro interface.

Quit drinking the microsoft coolaid and trying to stir up trouble. People do not like windows 8 because of microsoft not listening to what the customer wants. Quit slamming people because they do not like it and it hurts your feelings.

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Incognito

I couldn't have said it any better myself, DoctorX.

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Engelsstaub

My only real problem with Windows 8 is being advertised to on my computer and software that I already paid for. Remember the Ubuntu folks shitting themselves over the Unity shopping lens? That's a free OS and the shopping lens can be disabled!

It's the same as their XBox Live Gold-racket: "pay for a premium service and still have your dashboard filled with non-game-related ads!" Gold isn't really even a choice anymore either. It used to be, as a Silver (free) member, the only thing you couldn't do was play online multiplayer which was fair enough. MS gradually took things away from Silver members to bully them into paying for Gold. Just like they sold people hardware (XBox Live Vision Camera) with the functionality of video chat. Guess what, kids? No more video chat until you buy the Kinect! Nevermind the fact that we specifically sold you the Vision Camera with that expressed functionality and you have been using it for such for years now.

Because of consumer marketshare people feel they have to just sit and take their crap. I found better alternatives and run XP in a VM when I need it (which is pretty much never.) What am I trying to say here? ...oh yeah: F___ Microsoft.

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jaseplase

engeldouche, love ya man

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Engelsstaub

Thx, bro. Thinking of getting a Mac yet? I've got one for sale; more than half of what I paid for it even after four years.

Let me know because it will go fast.

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Paper Jam

+1

The whole XBL Gold deal and Metro dashboard is really making me debate changing platforms for the next generation. Halo is the only exclusive title I would miss. And as for Windows, 8 is the direction MS has committed to. So for me, when Windows 7 reaches EOL, I'll be switching to Linux.

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Engelsstaub

I've never been a Halo-fan so it would be no problem for me. Most of the games I still play (not too many) are cross-platform. ...but if I did like Halo I know that would be a tough-call, so I can see where you're coming from.

I was playing games on Windows 7 for a while not too long ago. I would play GTA4 or Fallout 3 and be able to voice-chat with a friend from XBL because GfW sort-of integrated with it to that extent. Then those pricks took that away because I wasn't maintaining my Gold-status on XBL while I was on PC. After awhile I couldn't even send a text-only message to people on my friends list. Ridiculous. My brother almost bought an XBox for the sole-purpose of watching Netflix and playing an occasional offline game. Luckily he told me of his wonderful plan before he threw his money away. No Netflix access unless you're Gold! You can do it on cheaper devices and both of the other consoles FFS. Nothing like paying for a Netflix subscription AND an XBL Gold membership.

Hopefully this Steam for Linux-thing really takes off. If it does I'm going to be building myself a box instead of going to another console.

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Hilarity

Good price. You think its easy to develop and support one of the most used OS's in the world? Microsoft doesn't just click its fingers and shit out the next version of Windows. If you didn't get it for $15 you're an idiot, if you didn't get it for $40 you're a retard, and right now you are fucked at $200. Oh, die XP die already you useless old piece of shit too.

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Mekan

Soon software publishers will move away from MS if it does not hold the market...and with crap like win 8 it will not.

Yes it costs money...so did a ton of other failed products...and they didn't want $200 bucks while other os's are free or $50. Nope...

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Neufeldt2002

For those like myself who weren't tempted with $40 upgrades and told people it wasn't worth it, what makes anyone think we would pay $200 or recommend it at that price?

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PDX-1337

For those like yourself who weren't tempted with $40 upgrade and told people it wasn't worth it, no one thinks you will pay $200 or recommend it at that price.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

How about FREE?
You have untill August 15 - 2013 to activate the trial copy of Windows 8 ENTERPRISE!

I installed and activated "Windows to Go" and made an Acronis backup on day 1

Once activated, you can then restore a fully activated 90 day trial to any drive at any time (Even after the original expired)

Fully activated "Windows to Go" can be restored to a portable drive in 5 minutes

Normally, "Windows to Go" does not have access to fixed disks, but the Shortcut to Disk Management > %windir%\system32\diskmgmt.msc can be used to gain access to internal "Fixed" disks on any computer

Right Click on a drive without a drive letter and give it one
"Windows to Go" is the Ultimate portable Toolbox for fixing other computers once you can access their drives

However, if you connect to the Internet, the remaining time activated will depend on when the Microsoft Servers first logged the activation, NOT when you restored the backup

If you stay off the net, you have a free copy of "Windows to Go" forever

If you MUST connect to get some tools or drivers, use the expired version of "Windows to Go"

1 Hour before shutdown is plenty of time to get the drivers you need from the Internet

Oh, did I mention that Windows 8 is FREE by doing this?
No?
Good, I wouldn't want to promote piracy or anything!

Have Fun

Oh, and make your backup of "Windows to Go" with Bitlocker OFF
You can always add it after you restore "Windows to Go"

You will find the "Windows to Go" shortcut to make "Windows to Go" in Control Panel (Show All) of the Enterprise version only

You can also make a "Windows to Go" drive FROM WITHIN "Windows to Go" if you copy the Install.wim file from the Enterprise DVD to the "Windows to Go" drive

Oh, and you can also install either version (32bit or 64bit) from within "Windows to Go" if you copy BOTH .Wim files from Both DVD's (32 and 64 bit)

Oh, and you can also boot "Windows to Go" from an internal SATA port if you need to

So have even more fun for FREE, or go buy a non-Enterprise verion for $200

Your choice

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PDX-1337

This sounds like a gigantic pain in the ass to keep up, and who wants a PC with crippled internet access?

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Internet?

I would never go near the Internet with 7 or 8 if I had a choice

Why would anyone want to use a Government Sponsored Spyware Platform for Internet use?

Seriously

But "Windows to Go" makes a great repair tool that puts Bart-PE to shame

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whr4usa

unless you manually change the bios clock back to a date before the trial is to expire and never use it on an uefi v2.x system your plan won't work idiot.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

After the trial expires, It takes 5 minutes to restore another fully functional 90 day trial from a backup without resetting the BIOS clock

Since I have already done so and it works as expected, you may assume that I do not have it on a uefi system

Good for you idiot

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whr4usa

you missed the point, idiot.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Please clarify then, because it works as expected, idiot

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PDX-1337

Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were wearing an aluminum foil hat.

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Jox

I figure I can get at least another couple years out of Win7. Win8 may have some beneficial features, and were I still running XP, I'd probably be more open to the notion of upgrading. However, there is no compelling reason, to my mind, to upgrade at this time. If Microsoft wants my money, they will have to release a new OS that leaves no doubt that upgrading will improve my overall experience.

Win8 is like the Simpson's episode where they release "Malibu Stacy" with a new hat. Except this time, the drooling masses are not falling for it.

-Jox

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whr4usa

you've got until 2020 then!!

possibly longer... it'll be interesting to see how Msft handles the XP activation deadline in april 2015

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dread_ire

I think that most DIY'ers, like myself, will simply go back to the old way of doing things and buy the OEM/System Builder version. At half the price of the new upgrade price, it's a no-brainer.

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PDX-1337

I agree, I am always surprised that anyone buys the retail version if the OEM is so much less.

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whr4usa

+2

especially since there's no legal question about doing so with 8 anymore

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Gauntylgrym

I've only had $100 OEM licenses for several years now. So I don't have MS's support...big friggin' deal. Google has all the answers one needs to figure something out.

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Business Direct

Well that sinks it I'll skip this version and wait until Windows 9. I was going to get a new SSD and Windows 8 but I'm not going to be rushed into it to save a few bucks.

It's not that I don't think Windows 8 could possibly be worth the money but rather it's Microsoft's ridiculous decision to unify all of it's interfaces. I mean come on iOS doesn't look like OSX and I make this comparison because Apple is a more successful company at marketing to the end user.

I would have been excited about a Microsoft store that accessible across various devices so I could buy, for example - HootSuite and it would install an appropriate version on my phone, my tablet, and my PC. Each of them would have a device appropriate interface and would share data/settings via SkyDrive or each providers user accounts. Lame.

What am I doing I'm gonna start typing these as blog posts.

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whr4usa

so buy the license now and use it when you're ready later? duh.

your third paragraph is pretty much what happens; everything paid you buy from the store already entitles you to 5 copies

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pocosdad

I certainly find MS's generous offer to allow me to upgrade my 5 Win 7 PCs to WIN8 , however I must decline on the grounds it would incriminate me, as a wealthy fool with his money.

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DoctorX

i dont know how they think this is a good idea... i know no one upgrading. Some are getting win8 laptops and putting win7 or linux on them.. Several of them can get win8 for free via technet, and they STILL wont install it.

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Jeffredo

lol - hell yes its too expensive. I have a very stable, very capable Win 7 installation so they're having an impossible time tempting me with $40.

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Gauntylgrym

Win7 has been the single greatest OS experience of my life. For me, it's about as perfect as could be. I have absolutely NO reason to "upgrade" to Win8, yet with several reasons NOT to.

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Incognito

$200 is a ridiculous price to charge. I'm kicking myself for paying $40 to "upgrade" (x 3 copies). But then Microsoft has always charged too much for the OS...

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