Windows 8 Dev Build Users Drop Significantly, Is It An Omen?

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maxeeemum

One more thing!  The idea that everyone wants to have a Win8 PC, a X-Box, a Win8 tablet and a Win8 phone just so they will all work together is severely flawed. I don't own a X-Box nor do I want a Win8 tablet or phone. This concept even sounds monopolistic. I am sure MS will face lawsuits over this. In Europe for sure!

Remember when MS put out Windows Media Center. It was going to take over as the living room entertainment center. Didn't  happen! And how about when Zune would be the iPod killer. Didn't happen! This is just another MS marketing scheme.

This idea that tablets will cause desktop PCs to become obselete is just pure madness. Tablets are the new netbooks! They will come and fade away over time.  

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t.y.wan

If the build is good enough to be used for "testing and designing" purposes, it should also be a solid build for day-to-day use. A drop in user count is totally, absolutely being the problem of the build, there is still time to change and tailor it to the "WIDE" community.

The solutions are usually simple, but it is one to understand and apply it, with knowledge.

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Greg4422

In my opinion the article was "dead on."  It's dev pre release software, and we were told it was buggy and incomplete.  I'm not a dev, I'm just a computer geek... and I just wanted to try it out.  Which I did.  I like it, but there's a learning curve and  I wouldn't consider it a daily driver, nor was it set forth as such... it's a "pre-beta" beta...lol, so after testing I went back to Windows 7 to await Windows 8 to mature.

 

I do look forward to the Beta release in Feb, and I'm looking forward to going windows 8 "full monte" summer/fall 2012.  (Windows 8 desktop, laptop, tablet and smart phone.)

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Bad Kharma

Judging by MS's usual standard of every second OS being a collosal failure, I predict that, like ME and Vista, Win 8 should be a flop.

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drcrazyrich

I think its tooo sooooon for windows 8 !!! We rid ourselves of vista and ME now this??and it doesnt sound good at all ,I wont try it cause I m happy with WINDOWS 7 thank you as I was with XP !! ever hear if it works dont F**K with it ,leave it alone!! People just spent alotta coin getting the latest windows (which I still feel MS owes me for vista my $$$ back! ) MAKE for tabelets but leave pc s alone for the next 5 yrs !! I say no thanks you can keep it :P

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DoctorX

i hate the metro interface... i even went so far and played with a wp7 device... ugh!!!  only way i will run win8 would be killing metro.  It has no place on my desktop with dual 28" monitors and nice keyboard and mouse.

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fung0

I think MS is making a monumental mistake by combining its tablet and desktop OSes.

Metro has some potential as a tablet UI... but what's the benefit to a tablet owner of having a full Windows 7 install crammed onto it? Win7 apps will continue to be larger, less-efficient and finger-unfriendly. Meanwhile, desktop users get a needless finger-friendly Metro mode to confuse things and add new bugs, plus Microsoft's looming threat of abandoning (or nerfing) the powerful Win7 UI entirely. Developers have two very different platforms to target, plus possible transitions between the two, so no benefit there either.

If the requirements for tablets and desktop PCs weren't very different, there'd be no need for both types of devices. So what's the point of a one-size-fits-all solution?

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djrebelion

It will be a little interesting to see how 3rd party developers utilize the touchscreen.  Wifi touch screens streaming your desktop would be nice.  I honestly don't know how to feel about 8 yet.

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maxeeemum

Yes I agree with most of you! This stat shows what is coming. Windows 8 will be a huge failure for Microsoft.

 

Just remember MS stated they would not let user input deter them from their Win8 vision. So despite all the negative comments I've read I doubt they will change much. 

 

After I installed this OS I was really disappointed. After I hacked it to disable Metro and restore the start menu I had Win7 with no programs. Win8 is for tablets only and will not be a big seller unless major changes are made.

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DJDeCiBeL

The ability to easily disable the Metro UI will be the key factor in the success of Windows 8, IMO. Just an educated guess, but I would say that most people (85-90%) won't have the need, or even the ability, to use Metro the way it's designed to be used. It doesn't matter how much faster/better it is if people won't use it because of a stupid, toy-like UI.

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DogPatch1149

Got it, tried it, and quite unimpressed.  Meh.

Metro, Shmetro.  If I really wanted to feel like I'm using a Windows Phone, I'll get one...I don't need an overgrown version of the interface on my desktop or laptop.

Now, if they truly do give me a choice to ditch Metro and keep the 7 interface, I'll think about it.

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loozer

After disabling metro, I can barely tell that I'm not using windows 7. I even got the round window corners back. It's like windows 7 with an up dir button and lower mem use.

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Baer

From what I have seen using the interface, this will probably be the first time since WinMe that I will not stay with a beta then RC then RTM as soon as they are available. If however I can disable the metro tablet/toylike interface and there are actually performance gains than I will consider it.

I am withholding judgement until I can speak to the MS folks and personally ask questions and show areas that I do not like at CES in a few weeks.

As usual I do not agree with Holly but what do I know, I have only been in the high tech indiustry since vacuum tubes and she speaks with so much certainty. (yes I expect a personal blast back)

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JohnP

Perhaps early adopters of Windows 8 are savvy enough to use Adblock plus?

I am using Win8 developers preview and I love it (and run Adblock plus). I have completely disabled metro interface and have changed the start menu to act normally. Win8 will sell for its speed in boot up alone.

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Zoandar

It's good to know that Win8 can be hammered into a less annoying interface. But it doesn't bode well for the OS when users have to mod the initial release just to make it palatable. I have a growing sense of 'Vista 8' every time I read about Win 8's development.

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Holly Golightly

Oh, the drop in Windows 8 Developers Build has no relation to the actual thing. The Developer's kit is incomplete and does not grant the users Windows 8 best features yet. If there is one thing Microsoft knows how to do well with computers is sell popular OSs. So I would not worry much as I know Windows 8 is going to sell based on the merit of Windows 7's sales.

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someone87

 

Just like Vista was going to sell based on the merit of XP?

It's astounding how lacking your logic is.

Windows 8 is very different than win 7 in so many ways. Just like Vista from XP. MS doesn’t have a 100% record of selling popular OSs. Take ME, 2000, Vista. That's closer to 50% than 100%.

I have been using Windows 8 on my MSI W110 tablet for a few months now, and it's kind of fun on a tablet. But unless MS does something totally awesome for the desktop (keyboard monitor and mouse) world, I have no intention on "upgrading" to windows 8.

 

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Holly Golightly

You can not assume that business works on a pattern. If it did, we would have a great economy by now. I see Windows 8 as more like Windows 95. Both are revolutionary and will redefine the way we use a computer.

To be honest with you, desktops are least desireable to the mainstream market. Everybody likes touchscreen interfaces, preferably tablets. This is why they sell so well. Even better than desktops.

When young people think of desktops... They think of those slow Dell Computers at the library. Even college students see big clunky HP desktops as slow and unreliable. Microsoft needs to get with the times, and indeed they are making a leap many readers seem to dislike. I know it is going to sell very well in the mainstream market, which is where the money is at... Not at our niche market of hardcore gaming and video editing.

We can't assume that Windows 8 is going to be identicle to Windows Vista. Heck, they have nothing in common. Windows 8 is unlike anything I have ever seen before. This is why I compare Windows 8 to Windows 95, because they are unlike their predecessor.

Remember, you are always going to have your Windows XP users who refuse to embrace the future. They still use IE6 and have no plans to ever upgrade. Windows 7 does not offer anything new besides an enhance aero experience. And because of that, we will have our Windows 7 fans who will refuse to upgrade. They will probably use IE9 for 10 years or whatever. In the world of technology, we should always embrace change. Otherwise we would all use Windows 3.1!

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ferds7

What was wrong with Windows 2000? Win 98 is maybe what you meant. (Not to be confused with Win 98 SE).

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Holly Golightly

Man... The memories. Windows 98 was my first Windows OS I ever had. I liked Windows 2000 from my old job. It was clean, faster, and felt lightweight on tasks. To me, it looked far better than Windows XP.

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Ghostryderflyby

I'm with someone87 on this front. If anything MS has a history of skipping a generation between good OS versions. Ala 95 was good but ME was an unstable train wreck. XP was great, but Vista was a mess. Win 7 is great, so it's Win 8's turn to be software carnage. Given the historical track record, and the gimmicky tablet UI, my money is on the history continuing and 8 being the find the problems version for the 9 followup that will actually be the good OS. I'll definitely sit on the side lines on this one until a good long review period has passed, and a true verdict is clear.

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Holly Golightly

Then how will you explain the transistion from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95? Good gets upgraded to better? My money is on the revolutionary transistion. Where good gets replaced by the best. 

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Baer

I totally agree. I see a place for a different tablet interface vs a true workstation one.

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Eoraptor

What Someone said. It's amusing to play with, but it basically leaves the 80% of Desktop users in the world with their thumbs up their collective asses for a mythical world where everyone is already using touch-enabled devices that they can hold in one hand and the desktop is an anachronism.

 

Of course the opposite is exactly true. Most of us still use a desktop as our daily interface and likely will for at least 3-5 years. Tablets are fun, but you simply can't input data into them with the same speed you can with a keyboard/mouse, and most of use have to use our computers to do at least one productive thing, not merely surf the web and watch movies and music.

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Holly Golightly

But that is what most of us do for most of our time. We Surf the web, watch movies and listen to music. Heck, we are all this replying to comments on MaximumPC because we are not doing anything else but surfing the web. Surfing the web is what we do most. We really do not need Octocores and 64GB of RAM for the most common task. I feel that Microsoft is thinking about 3 years from now when desktops may become obsolete. I mean, Now tablets are quadcore and have 2GB of ram. At some point, tablets will match the performance of desktops. I really feel that this blind hatred to Windows 8 is going to pull these people back. People think they can see in the future and predict that Windows 8 will be exactly like Windows Vista. Apparently they have never heard of the transistion from 3.1 to 95. Good, and then upgrade to revolutionary. At some point keyboards and mice will be the same as floppy disk drives and dial up modems. Yes, there was a time we needed them, but as technology progresses, some things become obsolete. Microsoft is just stepping up their game.

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oldobamaliar

well said totally agree

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