Windows 7 Offers Six Ways to Play

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concernedITpro

   Beer and Ice Cream should come in lots of flavors, though porter and coffee remain my faves, respectively.

   I can't help but be of the mind that if MS simply made one OS, they could sell it significantly cheaper - while getting it right, and (hopefully) the one, do-all OS would be affordable by all.

    Multiple versions offered under the guise of "buy only what you need" just smack of money-grubbing marketing gimmickry to me.

    That being said, I realize that there are legal reasons why other versions may be required for export; my comment pertains to whatever versions are available in the U.S... excepting the first sentence, of course :p

 

The Concerned IT Professional

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Lodis4

For some reason people think that XP came in two SKU's; they are wrong. based on the article it seems that Microsoft is trying to get back to that perception with the 4 main SKU's here in the states. Best of luck in that endeavor.

 

I only have one request from Microsoft and it will fall on deaf ears. Please enable native support for Active Directory Management in Vista and Windows 7! Do not force us all to migrate to ADS just to use the new fangled OS. Oh yes, just FYI, in the corporate world Visual Basic is not dead; only fools think otheriwse. 

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AndyYankee17

ew, the corporate world uses basic? gross

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Lodis4

Clearly I said Visual Basic. VB6 is old and should not be used for current development but there are plenty of old apps out there built on it. No one is going to pay to re-write them just because.

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AndyYankee17

basic, visually basic, same thing. from what I've heard of .NET, I don't like it.

 

now, if intel could nativly support java on their CPU's that'd be awesome

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Taz0

You flaunt your ignorance so confidently, someone might actually mistake it for expertise.

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jihnn

 i guess if i wait till next summer i can get the os that comes after windows 7.

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lol the circus is in town

 

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bcweir

...after learning that M$ is going with SIX versions of Windows 7!

M$ doesn't care about computer users. What they care about is bloating your system, slowing it down, and shaking computer users down for every last penny they own.

I wish Steve Jobs would get off his behind and put OS X on shelves for non-Apple computers. Computer users would stampede Apple stores nationwide.

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ccanning

But Apple makes all of their profit from their hardware sales. Opening up their software platform would kill their profit margins, which are very high on their hardware platforms.

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Keith E. Whisman

Have you even tried Window7? Windows 7 on my computer is faster than XP. Windows 7 is the most unbloated OS that I've used in a long long time. Heck you want to talk about bloat look at Linux each distro is packed with dozens of programs that all do the same thing. How much more bloated can you get? I love linux but really come on. I don't need 26different MP3 players and I need exactly 0 MP3 players that have no GUI and why on earth would I ever want a text bases GUI free web browser? There are a lot of programs in Linux like that that I will never even mess with. If I ever want it give me the option of installing it from the package manager don't just make it a standard install. There are alot of crap apps that get installed with ever Linux Distro but the few you ever really use are the ones in your GUI.

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GreenTurtle

 ....and empty their wallets on every "upgrade". Does that show love for computer users?

 I'll pass and stick with MS thanks.

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AndyYankee17

can we agree it's better than me/2000

 

apparently the professional of the OS is NT

and the home version is 9x, I'll take vistas multiple versions over that anyday

 

and please don't flame me, I realise that NT and ME aren't really the same OS I'm just pointing out that they were released at about the same time and seemed to be designed that way to me

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Shalbatana

 I don't care how many there are, as long as there is one that has all I need, and is not the$500 edition. Vista's mix and match approach is what teed everyone off, not that there were many editions

What I would love (though will never see) is a low end version that would be usable on my legacy laptops and computers. I have a PIII 400mhz laptop (Dell latitude LS) that "runs" xp, but doesn't do a good job of it. I would love to see if the lesser versions would be compatible, and perhps even speed it up a bit.

 Oh well, I guess I'll try linux on it instead.

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TheDuck

Good one! But you did forget all the Service Packs for XP, why don't you make another list, eh?

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Taz0

Even though you were being sarcastic, you're right on the money - considering the fact that different service packs are offered as different boxed products (=SKUs) on store shelves, the list is much bigger. And I forgot all the upgrade versions that are on store shelves too! Here's one that combines both confusing choices into one - XP, Professional, Upgrade, SP2:

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/37-116-196-01.jpg

These are all choices a person has to make when choosing which box to take off a store shelf.

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Taz0

Does anybody actually know how many different versions Windows XP has? Let me try and make a partial list:

  1. Windows XP Home Edition
  2. Windows XP Professional
  3. Windows XP Starter Edition
  4. Windows XP Media Center Edition
  5. Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004
  6. Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
  7. Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for Itanium systems
  8. Windows XP 64-Bit Edition, Version 2003
  9. Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
  10. Windows XP Tablet PC Edition
  11. Windows XP for Embedded Systems
  12. Windows XP Embedded
  13. Windows Embedded for Point of Service
  14. Windows XP Home Edition N
  15. Windows XP Professional Edition N
  16. Windows XP Home Edition K
  17. Windows XP Professional Edition K
  18. Windows XP Home Edition KN
  19. Windows XP Professional Edition KN
  20. Windows XP Home Edition for Subscription Computers
  21. Windows XP Home Edition for Prepaid Computers
  22. Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs
  23. Did I forget any edition? Quit bitching about SKUs and reminiscing on the good old XP that only had two versions! You're living in your own nostalgic fantasy!!!

    [Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_editions]

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gatorXXX

I agree, it is kinda blown out of proportion. But still, only advertise what WE have the option of buying in this country alone. Some poor schmuck out there is scratching his head wondering what to purchase next!......It's kinda like seeing a commercial for a killer new car in Boise, Idaho.....you sit in awe and worship the stylish contour, leather seats, 10 speaker surround sound system, Full internet and phone syncing capabilities....only to hear that fast mouth talking announcer announce it's only available in Europe, but 5 other versions are available and 2 of which will only apply to you. One version with the option to upgrade at anytime from the previous version with multiple choices of software to install is enough.

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Nick 01

Nick00

Do the math, guys.  If Microsoft has 6 versions of Windows 7 to sell, they will make a hell of a lot more money than only having 1 version to sell.  We, the consumers will have to pay a premium no matter which version we choose to purchase, due to the sheer cost of manufacturing all 6 versions.  Greed is a powerful motivator.  For those just plain tired of all the crap from Microsoft - try Linux mint:  www.linuxmint.com You might be pleasantly surprised.  Cheers! 

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Peanut Fox

If you look at the projected pricing SKUs for Windows 7, it's not any more or less expensive than Vista.  Which was on par with pricing with XP excluding the Ultimate edition.   

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Keith E. Whisman

Is there a chance MaximumPC can get it's hands on the License Keys for Home Premium and Professional and compare these to ultimate and give us a professional oppinion on what version of Win7 we the computer enthusiast should buy when it comes out? I've often heard MaximumPC staff recommend Vista Home Premium 64bit. What is the consensus after a thorough review of each SKU on what I should get being a gamer that D/L's movies from time to time and converts them.

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ProtoJMB

Ok, this is just ridiculous. I will admit when I first saw that there was going to me multi-SKU's, that I wasn't too thrilled.... that is until I actually looked at the engadget article. You all really should look at it too.

First of all, Windows 7 is looking to be the best OS since Windows XP, so the whole "XP is my last MS OS" just because there are multi-SKU's is ridiculous.

So let's analyze these SKU's... Yes, at first it looks like Microsoft is doing the same like they did with Vista, or are they? Well lets look at them.

Windows 7 Starter: We won't see this one... ever. Only for developing countries.

Windows 7 Home Basic: Unlike Vista Home Basic, Microsoft has decided that we won't see this one as well. A smart move in my opinion. This one will also be for developing countries.

So that's two down, two that the average American consumer will never worry about. So let's move on to the other four shall we?

Windows 7 Home Premium: Ah ha! Now here is a SKU we will see. Like Windows Vista Home Premium, it will have Media Center, but not the power user tools.

Windows 7 Professional: Professional? Now that is more like it. This OS is becoming a worthy replacement for XP all the time. The name Professional makes me feel right at home. This will have not only the power user tools like Vista Business did, but it also includes Media Center and entertainment programs like Home Premium.

Windows 7 Enterprise: Yet another SKU the average customer will not worry about. Only can get this via Volume License, and I doubt your average consumer has one of those.

Windows 7 Ultimate: Ah, Ultimate.... the end all OS. Has everything the power user could ever want, including features from Enterprise such as booting from a VHD and hard drive encryption with Bit Locker. But really, does everyone need these things? I don't think so. Plus I don't think we will see heavy marketing of this version either.

So really, when we look at this, it isn't so bad. For the most part we are back into the two tier OS system like we had with XP, with a potential third option for the super PC power users. The best part is that Microsoft got it right this time by making each version build on each other. With Vista, most power users opted for Ultimate because you didn't have power features in Home Premium, and Business didn't have the media features. Windows 7 Professional, however, is a viable option for most power users.

So overall, I believe everyone is making a bigger deal out of this than is needed when the options are simple.

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DoctorX

If i hear you get whatever when you buy your next computer... I will put my head through the wall!  I have bought 1 computer since 1994.  I have built all others.  I dont give a flying fuck on what the oems are putting on the computers... they are all garbage.  I bought Vista Ultimate (why?) for two of my computers because I want all of the features.  I feel feel there should be an upgrade that is very reasonable.  I am running Vista 64 Ultimate sp1... and i still get registry corruption. (no it is not hardware).  Windows 7 runs very well on it , but since OpenGL is broke, I have decided to wait until at least a new set of drivers come out. 

 These skus are even more confusing... need to know everything ... but i guess that will have to wait.

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GreenTurtle

I don't see the problem here. Just pick one and use it.

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knexkid

Here we go again! I don't really see what the big deal is. Obviously I'm don't need a business version or enterprise. It is not that difficult to discern between the multiple versions once Microsoft releases details.  I just don't get why there is a Home Basic and Home Premium. That I think is kind of stupid.

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alanmc76

For crying out loud!  All I hear is a bunch of hypocrites here. 

Let's go back a few years.  What was the PC world complaining about?  The security vulnerabilities in WinXP.  So, Microsoft delivers with improved security in Vista, and everybody gripes about how annoying security is.  

The masses say that Vista sucks, Microsoft proves this is mostly a perception with the Mojave Project, but people insist that Microsoft come up with something better.  Microsoft comes up with Windows 7 and offers the most open beta testing yet.  And for those who have actually taken an active part in the testing it has been a huge success.  Yet most of the response here has been griping about how many flavors there are.

My point is, you just can't please the masses when they already have their mind bent on your demise.  For those who prefer Linux and actually know how (and have the time) to make it work, more power to you.  To all of the Mac fan-boys out there, have fun upgrading your hardware.  Wait, you can't.  Sorry. 

If you can't figure out the difference between the different flavors and understand the reason behind them, then your opinion means nothing to me, because you obviously do not have the technical expertise to be offering it on the subject.

Give Microsoft a break, and give Windows 7 a try, after all it is free right now, so you can't even complain about the price.

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gatorXXX

If we can hold off a tad longer....we will have new Obama editions....

 1. Winblows 8 premium....not gimped and includes everything! Even new editions of I.E. 9 with net neutrality and bandwidth usage meters!

 2. Winblows 8 Obama Home Edition....everything gimped! Net speeds are restricted to 768k downstream and 128k up. But  includes usefull tickers across the screen for gov't job openings and useful links and programs to file and receive welfare checks!

 

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AndyYankee17

the only requirement for purchase is that you don't pay your taxes

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jchurchwell

It will be FREE for those who don't have to pay taxes, but still get a refund every year anyway.

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Lord Omega

It would be far easier for those end users who are less than technically capable to choose the right version if the knew what each one does. I can understand trying to make Win7 for a wide range of hardware, but having 7? That doesn't make any sense. How about:

Starter - for netbooks and lesser systems

Premium - for basic users in general and gamers

Enterprize - for  companies and small businesse

Ultimate - Has everything that Enterprize has and more, including the ability to fully customize the hell out of it and choose features that one wants and needs.

 

See, now it has 4, but better. Come on MS. Stop pulling this shit out and make something we all can use and choose.

But I do see where MS is going and it is a good idea. I have seen Win7 on a lot of thigns and it seems less bloat than Vista.

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bathtbgin

I seriously doubt MS is going to actively market all six SKU's, considering the only way to get enterprise is by volume license.  You'll probably only see ads for Home Premium and Professional, and i'd bet that those are the only two you'll find at a big box store or from dell which is exactly where those "less technical" end users go to get their computers. 

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bathtbgin

After reading the engaget article it doesn't seem all that bad.  Starter and Home basic are for "emerging markets" and the only way to get a copy of enterprise is by volume license, so the only SKU's most of us will see will be Home Basic, Professional and an occasional copy of Ultimate.

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jfigura

This is exactly why I will not move beyond Windows XP. If there comes a day I can't use Xp anymore, then I suppose I'll have to finally go 100% Linux or MAC. XP is my last Microsoft Operating system until Microsoft starts using sensible businese practices.

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gatorXXX

Let's confuse the confused even more!! WTF is microshaft thinking!! I think there should be at least 1 more to equal 7 SKU's though. Windows 7 with 7 sku's....makes sense...NOT! I agree with guy below me 100%!

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hg2WJW

What is even more important than how Microsoft views their product is how customers view it. There should only be one version of Windows. And you should be able to choose what features to install. Or you should be able to add features later. There should be reasonable and non-bloated defaults. And there should also be wizards to help non-technical people add features. 

Problem solved.

Mike

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skhills

ala Linux...

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nduanetesh

Windows should have just one version, just like linux. 

 

Oh, wait. 

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