Wikileaks "Under Heavy Attack," Seeks Shelter in Unix Community
Wikileaks "Under Heavy Attack," Seeks Shelter in Unix Community
Posted 12/06/2010 at 8:39am
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Whistleblower website Wikileaks.org ruffled more than a few feathers when it published classified U.S. documents and sensitive diplomatic cables sent between U.S. embassies, while also promising to publish thousands more. A series of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks would follow, and by Friday, both Amazon.com and EveryDNS.net decided to drop Wikileaks.org from their servers.
"Wikileaks is under heavy attack," the organization announced on its website. "In order to make it impossible to ever fully remove Wikileaks from the Internet, we need your help. If you have a Unix-based server which is hosting a website on the Internet and you want to give Wikileaks some of your hosting resources, you can help!"
In other words, Wikileaks is relying on mirror sites -- exact replicas of the original site hosted at a remote location -- to stay afloat. All told, Wikileaks claims its entire repository "should not take more than a couple of GB at the moment (with base website and cablegate data)."
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spentnickles
December 07, 2010 at 8:28am
Every government and every person has secrets... Some of the information contained in those secrets should be know and some of it should not - but who get's to determine that??? I'll give you a hint - the owner of that material. Would it be wise if Iran told us where their nuclear facilities were located?? Would it be wise if we told Syria how to make a nuclear bomb?? If you answer yes, you're an idiot or you don't understand what the ramifications of NOT keeping secrets can mean...
Is it justified if a soldier dies to protect you arrogant idiots because of your "freedom of speech" ideas that say "information should be publicly known"? if so, who are you and what gives you those rights? America is free only because there are those willing to die for YOU, because there are those out there who feel compelled to stand up and fight for something against all enemies FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC to protect your ass, so you can sleep sound at night... Try living in S. Korea, on the border and see how you like it... Anyway, since the US is "at war" how about we try these people, who are endangering our countrymen, for treason!
usucdik
December 09, 2010 at 3:23am
More raging conservative sentiment. If people in power are doing heinous shit, then the general public should be informed. If this puts anyone in harm, then is it the fault of the general public? You'd be delusional to say anyone is at fault other then the person that did the heinous shit.
For instance, let's say that George W. Bush lied about evidence that led to war. Yeah, really out there stuff. Should it be kept a secret? Why would you support following a country that lies to people and has inept leaders causing you to be at war status and accepting young recruits that don't know they signed up just to police the world and defend the interests of international corporations?
dracx619
December 07, 2010 at 9:20pm
this is what ive been primarily thinking and what i was trying to say earlier.
evolution76
December 06, 2010 at 4:15pm
This is what happens when you talk bad about america, the gov, will shut anyone down, DO NOT KILL THE MESSAGER, But who every is doing it. The USA needs to tighting up it's computers(hell up date your computers, i bet they still use windows 95....heheh). Blame the US for not keeping there shit locked he hell down. Hell TrueCrypt is free and it locks down your pc real good. All Wikileaks is doing is air there dirty laundry. Is anyone really getting hurt. The USA is still doing it samething "policing the world."
P.S.
Good thing this did not happen in the C&C World, Kane would have squash anyone that talked smack about him............hhehhe
Define reality... mine or yours?”
d3v
December 06, 2010 at 3:55pm
Why would anyone help wikileaks and invite attacks on their own server? Wikileaks should instead seek help from bittorrent users. Decentralized p2p networks are the answer.
Danthrax66
December 06, 2010 at 3:40pm
So I guess in a government for the people by the people in which the people are the elected officials it isn't ok for anyone that isn't a wealthy politician to know the activities of our diplomats? Because I certainly would like to know what the diplomats, and military officials are doing since they control a vast amount of power and aren't elected democratically like they should be. If you want to be in a country where truth is a crime then move to China I'm sure you'll love the forced love of the government and the lack of personal liberties. Me, I prefer my government open.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 3:08pm
Or for that matter, write with proper grammer and punctuation.
See what i did there?
This troll statment has been used to death here. No one cares.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 2:04pm
btw: is that picture derrived from command & conquor? that building on the right looks an awful lot like a GDI tech center...I dont recall any tacks being invloved however....lol
scabbynacker
December 06, 2010 at 1:11pm
Wikileaks is hosted outside the United States and Asange is not a US citizen. These terrible things he released are all things everyone knew already--some leaders are dicks, some like to talk a big game, etc. etc. This is only a big deal because the news is making it a big deal. The more venemous attacks against him get, the more followers he will get to help him. He thinks he's some kind of robin hood because he released all these diplomatic cables--he literally thinks them being leaked is going to somehow change the world. It will change nothing--he's merely a narcassist whose narcassism is being confirmed with all this attention he's getting.
Danthrax66
December 06, 2010 at 3:33pm
It is clear to me that you haven't looked at any of the cables. Not only do they show that Rumsfeld lied to America on conditions in Iraq but also that we aided in atrocities there, and also killed 21 children in Yemen. Honestly they have only leaked 1000 of the 250,000 cables and if you want the truth about what the cables hold don't listen to any of the mainstream media in this country.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 1:33pm
Australia and the US are pretty close Alies. Dont be surprised if his Aussie citizenship is revoked, and he becomes persona non-grata and open season insues.
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 12:58pm
Nobody help these commies, they want our down fall. Remember the slogan loose lips sink ships. If I had it my way I would hang this guy for espionage and confiscate all property belonging to him and Wikileaks. This isn't political either. I'm a Republican, you'll never ever hear a Republican threaten to leave his country just because some liberal is elected president like you do hear Democrats. This is all about wanting to maintain the security of my country and making sure my family is safe. Think of me as the Grizzly bear that wont think twice about killing anything near her cubs. That's me. I'll kill any threat to my family. Wikileaks is threatening that security and must be stopped. Democrats, how about you guys show some patriotism for once and support me on this.
roninnder
December 06, 2010 at 2:46pm
You must hate Sarah Palin then, she shoots grizzlies from helicopters with sniper rifles.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 1:17pm
+1 Im also a Republican, and a Vet. (for you trivia buffs: expression is from early Submariners: talking while under Zulu(zero noise) makes you a target.)
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 1:21pm
I remember seeing the posters with that slogan from WW2 news reel footage on the history channel and countless books on WW2 that I've read. BTW I'm also a veteran of the Army. Thanks for your service.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 2:00pm
Thank for your service as well :-) I was navy, submarines. ET, Nav Tech.
According to my Subschool history instructor, the expression was so effective below, that the surface pukes (thats what we call the people on the topside...lol) ended up adopting the slogan to prevent sailors divulging compromising information while drunk in port...lol
Suprisingly, one of the few things i still remeber from that crusty old Chief.
choechst
December 10, 2010 at 9:21pm
I was an ET in the Navy too. Glad I wasn't stationed on a sub though. When I was in the reserves I was tasked with removing radio equipment from a Sub being decommisioned. I am 6'1" and after my first day I had trouble standing up straight for 2 hours.
As far as these leaks go I am still not sure if I want them to continue or not. Some of the information thus far seems like it may endanger a few diplomats, but there hasn't been anything really damning yet.
excellentjim
December 06, 2010 at 11:45am
What so many people missed in all the reporting, is that Wikileaks has been, and continues to release Classified information. The last of which was Classified SECRET. That's a Very Serious breach of the law and would include a LIFE sentence if convicted. I don’t understand how any of you could even consider what they’ve done as acceptable. They’ve defied the law and put our own people in danger. That’s Treason, plain and simple, and we should Never give a pass to someone who commits Treason. Trying to hide behind Free Speech just doesn’t work here. If they know the information is Classified (and it was clearly marked as such on every page) then they know the consequences of it’s release.
usucdik
December 09, 2010 at 3:31am
What does it matter? They can try to keep it a secret all they like, but once it gets out then it is fair game. Why try to keep a secret that is already out? That just looks stupid. Unless the leak directly reveals information that could kill a person, it doesn't matter who thinks it should be a secret and it is now at their discretion.
By the way, it is a pretty ignorant position to assume that the chain of command is the end of the line for how things ought to be. Numerous times have so-called "classified" info been labeled so just to brush some dirt under the rug. The supreme court has rules plenty of times that info be declassified because there was no good reason to keep it under wraps.
roninnder
December 06, 2010 at 2:33pm
Since Assange is not a US citizen, it is impossible for him to commit treason against the US. Judging by the way you capitalize words randomly, I'm willing to bet English is not your first language.
carage
December 06, 2010 at 5:32pm
So in other words that makes him open season for CIA to do something about him.
AndyYankee17
December 06, 2010 at 11:55am
life sentence? try the rest of his life in front of a military firing squad.
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 1:07pm
Wikileaks is a foreign entity that has and is committing espionage on our country, they are releasing top secrete information and details that can and is undermining US foreign policy and putting Men and Women in danger. They are all undermining the US ability to negotiate trade and even peace with other countries that can lead to violence that would not have happened had Wikileaks not embraced espionage. These guys are Spies. Every country on the planet executes spies especially successful spies. If Russia had sentenced a captured spy to death I doubt anyone would cry foul. In fact, when the Taliban or other terrorist organisation beheads a prisoner, nobody protests the terrorists, but a few pictures of naked terrorists with a female GI and the world just comes unglued. Hmmmm... I'd rather be naked then murdered. So if you think a firing squad is just too harsh, why not ask what your government would do to protect you and your family.
carage
December 06, 2010 at 5:26pm
Thank you for showing a light on reality, which probably everyone knows at heart, but just not willing to admit. States need to engage in some unspeakable things to protect the general population from harm.
Some of the liberal folks aren't naive, they just don't want to admit that the world is not in fairy land.
Seriously, who cares about some kid dying in Yemen?
I think when the politicians got the report, the first response is probably and rightfully "So?"
Then the next thing that comes to mind is the stupid media and their stupid sensibilities, so "Coverup?"
roninnder
December 06, 2010 at 2:41pm
So in your patriotic "republican" "ex-military" opinion the US should strive to be more like Russia? Or maybe we should emulate the taliban, and behead our prisoners as you seem to be suggesting.
Judging by your poor grammar and spelling I'd be willing to bet your military experience took you up to the lofty ranks of "E-3."
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 5:09pm
OK, I'm sure I misspelled something, I just can't find it. Perhaps you can correct my grammar and spelling. Remember however, I'm an American and American English grammar and spelling is a little different from the UK and Maybe a little bit of Canada.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 3:06pm
So in your Liberal leftist opinon the US should strive to be more like Canada? or maybe we should emulate the Hippies, and heap our prisoners with love as you seem to be suggesting.
Judging by your poor grasp of the way the world really works, id be willing to bet you never made it up to the lofty rank of having a clue.
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 5:05pm
God that was a great comment.. LOL..... ROFLOL.. Your the only blkpanthr I love.. LOL..
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 7:14pm
I can be witty occationally, although i wouldn't get used to it: that guy left a very large opening...lol
Scootiep
December 06, 2010 at 12:32pm
What's wrong with dead men's bones? They make great toothpicks and chew toys for my dog!
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 2:05pm
awww..somoneone removed the post you were responding to. too bad, its funny...
armyguy298
December 06, 2010 at 11:17am
It would be interesting to see some smart programmers put together a distributed computing program similar to SETI@home, or Folding@home to crack the AES 256 encryption on the supposed "insurance" file floating around out there.
Biceps
December 06, 2010 at 10:25am
It is interesting to note that all these shut-downs, all these warrants, all these confiscations, did not happen until Assange said he was going to release the information about the Bank of America. He has yet to do so, and this is all the shady people involved trying to put pressure on him to prevent him from releasing information about what happened at the Bank of America - what are they so scared of?
We are talking about national figures from all over the world who had access to trillions of taxpayer dollars, and Assange found something that is very very embarassing and possibly incriminating to those figures. They absolutely do not want that information released, and what they are doing now is evidence of that. Watch for it, because when that information comes out, then the government-run DOS attacks are going to start in earnest.
Open your eyes, sheeple. baa baa.
mj196410
December 06, 2010 at 10:58am
The fact that he can't distribute the materials via the internet in no way stops him from releasing them to a news organization. If he really had dirt on BOA plenty of news organizations would love to have that exclusive. Conspiracy theorists of the world unite!!
Biceps
December 06, 2010 at 11:28am
Who the hell are you? I see that you just joined up with MaximumPC.com to comment on my post. That tells me that I touched a nerve. Who are you? Who do you work for? Who paid you to post the above? If my comment was spot-on enough to get you to sign up and response with a falsely off-hand and glib comment like the one above, I must be on the right track!
Based on the info that I've read from Wikileaks, conspiracies seem to be a pretty healthy bet right now. :)
AndyYankee17
December 06, 2010 at 10:05am
keep in mind that hosting for wikileaks could be considered giving aid and comfort to an enemy. The founder could already be held accountable for treason. these are serious laws, much, much more serious than copyright infringement and is a line not worth crossing.
Keith E. Whisman
December 06, 2010 at 1:15pm
Can't be tried for treason, he isn't a US citizen, he is a citizen of Australia and the website was based out of Europe so there are very few ties if any with the US. He can be and I think that he should be charged with espionage with extreme malice, to knowingly attempt to damage and interfere with US foreign policy and defense. He should be tried as a spy and executed. Wikileaks should be treated as a terrorist organisation and confiscated and eradicated, all members of the wikileaks organisation should be investigated and charged based on their complicity.
AndyYankee17
December 06, 2010 at 5:17pm
wasn't there one guy in the US army they thought leaked somethings?
Neufeldt2002
December 06, 2010 at 5:42pm
Yes, it was a private, he is being held in isolation. I believe they are going to be charging him with treason.
blkpanthr
December 06, 2010 at 10:02am
A lot of politics is about information control and not tipping your hand. By releasing these documents, WikiLeaks has potentially compromised personal political relationships, polictical maneuvering, and possibly inter-country relationships. I see no difference bewteen this and a full on spy. He should be held accountable accordingly. If you are going to jepardize political strategy on the world stage, be prepared to pay the price on the world stage. you have no one to blame but yourself for retaliation. Its quite a bit less than what would happen if you got caught with this information as a spy. Concider yourself lucky you arent an assination target.
TommM
December 06, 2010 at 9:25am
Seriously, if the WikiLeaks founder thought he could do this with immunity, he's being quite naive. This time it wasn't just U.S. documents, but from Embassy's all around the world. He's got everyone pissed at him now.
I think government's should be as transparent as possible. But when it comes to the world of politics, some discretion is required.
pastorbob
December 06, 2010 at 8:48am
If Wikileaks is driven totally out of existence it will be no great loss for the world. Those disillusioned people who see them as a vioce for free speech and returning power to the people need to get their heads out of the dark recesses of their anatomies.
chipmunkofdoom2
December 06, 2010 at 9:24am
I think you're totally missing the point of Wikileaks. There is no doubt that what they do is walking a very thin line between legal and illegal, sometimes sidestepping into the illegal side, but is what they're doing morally wrong? I don't think so.
Good luck getting on Wikileaks now, but check out the Wikileaks article on Wikipedia. The stuff they're leaking isn't to give "power to the people" or to promote "free speech", they are leaking information that proves government officials or people who are supposed to be morally accountable and do the right thing outright lied.
If someone was dishonest and lied about doing something immoral and proof is out there that they lied and it actually did happen, let it be leaked. I'm tired of governments around the world lying through their teeth about being bottom feeding scumbags and not getting popped for it because there are laws in place deeming that information "classified" or "vital to national security".
dracx619
December 06, 2010 at 9:55am
im not 100% aware of many of the types of leaks that wikileaks has dished out, but from my point of view, they did do wrong in leaking some of the stuff they did. i agree with politicians being held accountable, transparency in govt, freedom of speech, and such. but there really has to be a line when it comes to "free speech." if these leaks cause there to be some sort of crazy fallout between nations and lets say (im exaggerating a bit here) wars break out because of the damaging nature of what has been revealed through these leaks, then what good was it this decision to exercise "free speech?"
i almost see this situation like the friend you have who may have some annoying quirks that you talk smack about to another friend. you don't tell your friend about it cause you don't want to hurt their feelings, the friendship is beneficial to you, or whatever. so here comes blabbermouth friend b and tells friend a what you say about him...well, there's an unnecessary strain there now that you have to patch up. in many cases, some friendships don't recover.
so some things definitely need to be revealed to keep these people honest, but thousands upon thousands of leaked info? that's just irresponsible.
JoonatanO
December 06, 2010 at 11:12am
"lets say (im exaggerating a bit here) wars break out because of the damaging nature of what has been revealed through these leaks, then what good was it this decision to exercise "free speech?""
If that happened, I'd blame the governments for starting the war, after all, it was them who pulled the trigger.
"i almost see this situation like the friend you have who may have some annoying quirks that you talk smack about to another friend. you don't tell your friend about it cause you don't want to hurt their feelings, the friendship is beneficial to you, or whatever. so here comes blabbermouth friend b and tells friend a what you say about him...well, there's an unnecessary strain there now that you have to patch up. in many cases, some friendships don't recover."
Good riddance, if you talk smack behind his back, I doubt he was a real friend.
"so some things definitely need to be revealed to keep these people honest, but thousands upon thousands of leaked info? that's just irresponsible."
If you keep anything, even the smallest truth secret, it's not being honest. If thousands and thousands leaked documents are needed for the truth, then so be it.
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