VLC Offers a Free DVD Player, Why Can’t Microsoft?

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bautrey

CCCP is much better than anything out there.

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soccerkevin11

My biggest gripe with VLC is that it sucks with interlaced video....WMP works like a charm

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wcj786

There is an easy way around this. Open VLC, go to TOOLS, PREFERENCES,VIDEO. Look halfway down the page and you will see a box labeled Video that has De-interlacing inside it currently set to OFF. Change that to AUTOMATIC, then SAVE and you will no longer have any issue with interlacing on VLC.

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Shalbatana

I really, REALLY want to love VLC, but...
1) I hate the cone on my video files. (yes it can be avoided but...)
2) I always, ALWAYS have problems with it. Every time I say I have issues, someone says "try the new version", and I have new issues. Things stutter, videos freeze, It tells me I have to rebuild some video cache or thumbnail database every time I re-open it. Something always gets in the way of a smooth experience.

It's far superior to most players, especially to MC, but I've said it before and will say it again: The ideal media player has yet to be created.

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vrmlbasic

Story of my movie-playing life... ;)

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Valor958

I learned about VLC from the CCCP many years back and haven't turned back since. VLC was buggy now and then with random freezes and hang ups, but no worse than any other at the time. VLC is still my choice video player, though the newest version of it I'm not as fond of. I loved being able to roll the audio up to 400% for low volume vids I downloaded, but now it's locked to 200%. Still sufficient, and the audio balancing tools and other tweaking tools built in to VLC allow me to fix as needed too. Overall, I see absolutely no reason to switch to VLC or pay more for a DVD enables playback version of Windows. Whether "it's just business" or not... bad business is bad. Since when did watching a DVD become a premium service? We can watch them in our pockets no thanks to smartphones... but we have to pay more to watch them on our desktops/laptops? Bad move Microsoft... but that's my opinion in general of making Windows 8 anything more than a new flavor for touch tablets only.

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vrmlbasic

You heard of VLC from the CCCP and you USE it?!! The CCCP classifies VLC as being "evil" due to its bugginess and lack of proper functionality.

http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Media_Players#VLC_media_player_.28Bad.2FEvil.29

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DocBogus

Is it me, or VLC already plays DVDs in Windows, at least since version 2.0.0 (current 2.0.1)? In Linux it does, no big deal. I've had enough with all these patent limitations & all other stupid reasons for crippling software. Linux Mint, 4 clicks: software center>featured software>VLC>install. Done. (By the way, what do the «big OEMs» care? They mostly dump outdated or trial versions into the new machines, and you have to put up with security/upgrade warnings, or those supposed sensational cut-price upgrades mainly for new bloats you don't even need.)

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MleB

Media Center? Microsoft still offers Media Center? Jeez, I haven't used that for, well, years - thanks to VLC, Irfanview, iTunes and products like Freemake. And all free.

What if you stopped making a product and nobody cared - or noticed?

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chipmunkofdoom2

To each his own. I have a 3-tuner CableCARD device that paired with Media Center is my TV entertainment experience. It will record up to three shows at once, or 2 while I can still watch one channel live.

Sure, I could use a free alternative, as I think my device supports XBMC, but really, it doesn't make sense. I have Media Center in the version of Windows 7 I own (Pro), the setup instructions were included for Media Center (and they were dead easy at that), and Media Center's experience is pretty integrated and straight forward.

Again, to each his own. The reason Apple and PC fanboys go at it so often is because they don't have the same needs, and one automatically assumes the other is wrong because the other's tool does not fit their respective needs. I use Media Center and I know many other people who do also. You're not wrong because you use different software than I do, and I'm not wrong because I use different software than you do. Just know that a software solution that is useless to you or is dead to you does not mean it is dead to all.

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DonPMitchell

Playback of DVD's is just something Microsoft chose to vary between versions of Win7. You can play DVDs in Win7 Home Premium or Ultimate edition, but not in home basic. It's not a conspiracy, it's just business.

I've got all these freeware players, and VLC seems the least flaky, but it's clear that none of them are really written or tested professionally. WMP actually seems pretty good now, after kinda sucking in earlier versions.

The one player I will never allow on my machine is Quicktime -- which (unsurprisingly) invades every corner of your system and web browsers like a metastatic cancer and (surprisingly for Apple) has a horrible user interface.

Before you install 3rd party codec packages like K-Lite or CCCP, google "codec hell". Beware fanboy advice. K-Lite forced me to rollback to a restore point. Again, not professionally written or tested software, so you takes your chances.

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t.y.wan

"K-Lite forced me to rollback to a restore point"

??? I have been using K-Lite for god knows how long (~4 to 5 years?) and I haven't have any problem with it... nor my friends... and personally, I love the way they allow users to have only the seek bar enabled, not even the outline thingy win7 applies.
Just saying...

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Blaze589

Same here. I've been using K-Lite for the longest time and have had no problems with it except for this one time...

The problem was that I selected to have the codec pack generate thumbnails for all video files. When I updated K-Lite to a newer version and navigated to a .flv file explorer.exe would crash. The worst part is that the .flv file was on my desktop and I couldn't do a thing. Thankfully I was able to use a boot disk to move the file on my desktop, boot up and reset the setting of the K-Lite codec pack.

Moral: Only generate thumbnails for Windows default video files to be on the safe side.

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vrmlbasic

DVD playback for free has long since been accomplished. VLC is pretty weak as a media player (I prefer the Combined Community Codec Pack via Media Player Classic), but it does the job for free.

What we need are free blu-ray playback software systems. PowerDVD 9 came with my blu-ray drive, but there are some blu-rays that it will not play (it claims to have done the requisite update but it still won't play). The free trial of PowerDVD 12, however, will play those same blu-rays with no problem. PowerDVD 12 costs ~$50 USD.

It's a racket.

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wcj786

I use VLC to play DVD and Blu-Ray discs, as well as ripped movies in folders of both Blu-Ray and DVDs. When selecting to play a disc, there are buttons for either DVD or Blu-Ray.

By default, the DVD button is selected, but that can be changed to make the Blu-Ray the default. You can also manually select the Blu-Ray button, so that VLC looks for the Blu-Ray format on the disc instead of the VIDEO_TS folder.

I use VLC to play every form of video on my computer and I am a videiophile, as I have over 1000 movies in DVD and Blu-Ray discs, as well as numerous .avi, .mp4, .flv, etc. I have so few issues with VLC that I am shocked when the program freezes or crashes. It is the best multi-media I have ever used. It is vastly superior to Windows Media Player, which crashes on me every single time I attempt to use it. The only thing that I wish VLC would do is provide a front end so that I could see the cover pages on the movies before I select what movie to play, on those that I store on Hard Drive. That is the only area where WMC is better than VLC at all. Windows Media Player can not even come close to VLC.

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vrmlbasic

FYI, "Media Player Classic" is not the same thing as "Windows Media Player".

VLC's blu-ray playback is a kludge, not an ideal solution :(

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Scatter

I'm a little confused. So since the French don't recognize software patents does that then mean that if say Microsoft moved to France they'd be legally able to incorporate anyone elses software into windows and just say "neeners neeners" to the patent holders?

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Jox

If a free and open source app can offer the feature, why won’t Microsoft?

***Fixed that for you.

-Jox

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Airheadq

Microsoft does and can since Vista and Windows 7 with Windows Media Player. Not only that, plenty of codec packs out there. Lastly, I don't see how this is a problem with OEM DVD software on the majority of pre-built systems.

Windows 8 is going to be built with touchscreens in mind. One more reason to stick to Windows 7 I guess.

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Philippe Lemay

?...

Doesn't VLC already playback DVDs? I'm watching Stargate Continuum on it right now, as I type this, lol.

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wcj786

VLC has had DVD playback since it was originally written as a program, or at least as far back as 1998, as I have been using it that long personally.

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avenger48

I know it has for at least a year now, because I used it to play a DVD movie in one of my high school classes, and I just finished my freshman year of college. This article confuses me.

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Danthrax66

VLC is still really choppy for HD playback though.

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andrewc513

Explain? On adequate hardware, I've never had VLC get choppy on any of my PC, Mac, or Linux boxes...

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slibinz

Either that, or you're running too many programs in the background. And if you "just bought your computer", then it came with a crappy integrated graphics card, and that's your problem, not VLC.

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Blaze589

Meh. Just install a codec pack like K-Lite.

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vrmlbasic

Combined Community Codec Pack > K-Lite

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aarcane

French++; //French are now officially okay in my book!

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sdcat

dvd player....well that's good news.

where's blu-ray player open source or at least something close enough? Does Blu-ray format patents and codecs apply to French?

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wcj786

You can use VLC to play Blu Ray just as well as DVD. When selecting to play a disc in VLC, you go to MEDIA, then OPEN DISC. When you get to that page, there are radio buttons labeled DVD, BluRay, AudioCD, and SVCD/VCD. Click the BluRay radio button, as the DVD button is selected by default. This will tell VLC that the disc is in the BluRay format and it will look for the BDMV file structure instead of the VIDEO_TS structure that DVD's are built with.

If you have copied a BluRay to Hard Drive instead, just select the folder that the BDMV folder is in. For example, if you have Underworld: Awakenings copied to hard drive, you can have the movie in a folder such as:

C:\Users\"my name"\Documents and Settings\My Documents\Movies\Underworld_Awakenings\BDMV

In this case, you would select the folder:

C:\Users\"my name"\Documents and Settings\My Documents\Movies\Underworld_Awakenings

VLC will recognize the file structure automatically and play the movie. You might receive an error pop up, but the movie will still play. You can ignore and just close the error popup and continue to watch the movie.

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dc10ten

blue ray belongs to sony and they keep it proprietary

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Pruneface

You can't forget about Disney. On every blu-ray movie, the ysay, "in Disney Blu-ray"

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Peanut Fox

Sony and about 16 other well known companies all hold patents on Blu Ray. I'm not sure how many of them still hold a stake, but I'm sure we'd be looking at more than just Sony.

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Pruneface

This goes to show that rules dont apply to the French. of course, they have the worst economy in the world and they force us to give up murderous terrorists, so let's all foloow them!

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Khoiboi

Dafuq? Worse economy in the world? I can "see" your hyperbole, but by no means worse in the world... by far... and the whole murderous terrorist thing? Listening to Rush Limbaugh has been scientifically proven to kill brain cells. Trust me, I'm an engineer.

My point being, don't hate on the French for whatever biases you may have, obviously they're doing the tech world a favor and you go and bad mouth them? Would you prefer to pay the premium instead?

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Pruneface

My mistake. Acutally, what happened was that we caught the terrorists who bombed a sship and killed a bunch of people,and the ****s in Congress demanded us to turn them over to the French. And as for the "worst economy" statement, I meant that the socialism they employ is terrible. Of course, the VLC software helps the French 'cos they pay a ton in taxes, escept for the poor.
I dont hate on the French for my biases, I hate on them because in my view, they havent done anything useful in the world, i.e. WWI and WWII

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slibinz

Please. I've found that the vast majority of people who bash someone like Rush Limbaugh get their news from Jon Stewart. Sadly, most of those people could read my previous sentence and not get the hypocrisy.

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vrmlbasic

What is this "obvious favor" that they're doing the tech world?

As a red-blooded American, I refuse to believe that the French could *force* us to do anything.
"Listening to Rush Limbaugh has been scientifically proven to kill brain cells. Trust me, I'm an engineer. "

Weren't you just bashing the OP for sweeping, grandiose statements and hyperbole? ;)

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whelderwheels613

Oh man, you must have the same brain cell eating disease as the op. Don't worry, there are medications for that.

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Pruneface

This goes to show that rules dont apply to the French. of course, they have the worst economy in the world and they force us to give up murderous terrorists, so let's all foloow them!

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