Viral Video of School Bus Monitor Prompts Investigation, Outpouring of Support

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mortalrage

You fail at trolling, try harder!

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bigrigross

Your analysis on why these kids are the way they are is wrong. You are correct in saying society does cause kids to be this way. But parents are the main reason. Clearly you can see that these kids have no respect. Have no moral compass. Nor did I hear a single thing of intelligence come out of their rotten mouths. Parents are working more and neglecting their children. These children probably go home and play videogames for 6 hours straight everyday. The parents need to set rules. They need to teach their kids to respect their elders.

Heres my own personal example of this. I was raised by my grandparents while my siblings were raised by my mom. I was pretty much spanked at least once every few days if I mouthed off or didnt do my chores. My siblings got away with everything since their was no one their to take care of them. I am in college. They both have records. Yeah, parenting makes a HUGE difference. You are just being ignorant.

Its the problem with kids raising kids nowadays.

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mortalrage

You my friend are ignorant. You have never lived in the projects have you? I have the right to express my opinion without ignorant people that think they have all the answers talk down to people and call people names. You are no different than these kids calling people ignorant. Should I blame your parents?
I have seen many friends and family go down the wrong path because of neighborhoods and poor communities going against there parents demands and instructions. Do I excuse these kids for what they did "NO", but to blame the parents only is ignorance of people that probably don't have children. Since no kids on the bus step up to defend this woman, is it there parents fault as well? I think not.

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Carlidan

Since no kids on the bus step up to defend this woman, is it there parents fault as well? I think not.

To answer your question. Yes. :)

Think about it this way. Let's say that you have a role model. And let's say you imitate that said role model. That said role model told you respect your elder. Would you most likely do that? I would say yes. Now if said role model say always defend the weak no matter what. Would you do that? Most likely you will. Why, because that said role model influenced your behavior. Now, wouldn't you think if you see your parents 24/7 a day, wouldn't they influence your behavior?

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Pyrophorics05

This is not societies problem. The parents have a choice in what their kids watch, who their kids hang out with, what school they go to and what they eat. Sure, you can't be there 24/7 but it really is true that what you instill in your child today can last a lifetime.

From generation to generation, parents have become more relaxed. With each generation, it seems more tolerance of kids behaviors becomes accepted.

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thetechchild

This.

Parenting did not directly lead to this -- it would be insane to say that so many parents would all have encouraged their kids to defecate on someone else's property. But it is safe to say that many of those parents did not use their influence to teach their children. Lack of direct intervention in a child's life is the same as letting the most disgusting parts of society be their parents.

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Trooper_One

I'm glad my parents taught me the basics of right and wrong; but ultimately by their age, I knew enough to know what's right and what's wrong.

Poking at old ladies, threatening with weapons, and insulting her with hurtful comments are things I knew that shouldn't have been done or said.

On a different note, this story seems to have brought quite a few comments, not really all about technology. I'm glad there's lots of us geeks who can talk about societal issues.

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Trooper_One

Disgusting!

All you can hope for is that these kids one day will grow up and be remorseful of their actions; somehow, in this age of American Idiots, I doubt it.

Let's raise $1M for this poor lady!

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Ghostryderflyby

Or better yet grow to be her age and suffer the same BS they put her though from another bunch of punk ass disrespectful wastes of oyxgen! WTF is wrong with these kids, that they somehow derive fun from torturing others???

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Strhopper

why are people so shocked about this? This is the way kids act. We should be upset by this.

But in reality kids have been this way for a long time.

The only difference here is the are picking on a old lady. I feel sorry for her.

She should of acted more like an adult. And stood up for herself.

Before anyone takes that the wrong way, I just mean people only do what they think you will let them get away with. If she would have been a hard a$$ long ago they wouldn't had the nerve to pull this.

But less give her all the money we can so she can avoid riding that bus ever again. Lets Make Her Rich!

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bigrigross

And she probably would have been fired if she stood up for herself. Remember, parents are blaming the schools for the bad grades and for when their kids get in trouble nowadays. They dont blame the person who is really at fault which is the kids. You honestly cant win in this day and age. Its what happens when Kids are raising kids.

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Strhopper

She would have not been fired if she would have followed the rules.

Cmon you know if she would have been a hard ass and reported every little thing they did wrong from the first day she started they would have been taking notes home and getting kicked off the bus long ago.

At the point when this video was made they already knew she was weak.

It's the facts stop making excuse's for her. Again this was wrong. I don't want to sound as if I am belittling her. I really do feel sorry for her. But when I was a kid I quickly knew which teacher/coach I could push and bend the rules and get away with it.

If a teacher was a hard ass, I stayed straight and narrow

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Blues22475

This is the same exact thing I said when I was watching it on the news a couple days ago. I've seen people do the right thing while being employed to find out that ti was against some kind of "rule" that the institution had so they were fired.

Besides that, adults get into all kinds of trouble when it comes to kids (even though the kids were the aggressors in some cases).

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Cy-Kill

The donations are now at $268,412!

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sarkli

Its a shame to see. Kids are only getting worse and worse as each year goes on. Ultimately the parents are to blame but then again i think you have to look at American society as a whole causing parents to work more and have less to do in childrens lives. The effect trickles like a rain drop on a 5deg pitch.. slow but in the end can be devastating. Not to mention kids are being raised by the internet and Tv.. need i say more.
Its good to see that this lady will be able to have a wonderful trip w/ the money raised for her. I heard today on the news the Principal of the school apologize for the students actions.. imo i think the worse punishment possible for those little brats is having THEM ALL make a public apology to this woman in front of news casters and hopefully it will be lesson learned.

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Xenite

Kids these days are just malicious... we are turning into a very ugly society where this is the norm. The internet is party to blame, kids are getting used to being in a setting with no repercussions to their actions.

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Ghok

No repercussions? These kids actions are all over the internet, and the response is not positive. This works both ways.

I agree with your sentiments on kids today (like all older people, I don't understand youth behaviour, but that's been going on four thousands of years), I just think you're overstating the problem a bit.

A lot of these kids have parents who didn't have the internet, or still barely know how it works. As time goes on, things will get better there.

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Typo91

I was a bus driver for the largest school district in the US for 2 years, and not just any driver, but I was the guy that came when people quit or got fired, and it was my job to set the standard, I was also a trainer.

Its not hard to be a professional in this field (I was between REAL jobs) but I took my job seriously reguardless.

And I can tell you for a FACT, that driver should have stopped that bus. That bus needed to be stopped the moment they touched her, and the children evolved escorted off the bus by district safety officer or police.

2nd, the moment "knife" or "gun" was mentioned that monitor needed to do her job, and inform the driver of that. She was threatened physically and just sat there. These children are like this because NO ONE corrects them or disciplines them.

The bus should have been stopped, and police called the moment anyone mentioned having a weapon on them. Its not a joke.

The fact this bus had a monitor indicates it was a special needs bus most likely, the only time i ever saw kids act like that was on a short bus, and at that degree they had Paras with them, that COULD put there hands on them to control them.

They should all be in safety vests with that kind of behavior. And someone that is going to follow through from the drivers seat, and the back seat.

So failure all around, parents, schools, bus employees. No body did the right thing.

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John Pombrio

Excellent post, Typo. I was involved in the PTA and helped both draft and support the strict rules of behavior pamphlet that every child and parent MUST sign before they can start school. Don't sign, no school. Break these rules and there is hell to pay. School buses are the same as school property. Yet the only way these rules WORK is if someone enforces them. This never happened here. Failure all around indeed.

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Joji

The area I live in is a good area. Most of the kids are nice and the school I go to are full of respectable people (it's also a public school btw). Never have I encountered such an incident before. Perhaps it really depends where you live. If one was to live in a lower classed area, then this may happen. Can't be helped. Their parents probably didn't bring them up good enough.

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Ulrich

Believe it or not bad apples come from all classes...

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Victek

I haven't watched the video - and won't - because I drove school buses for years and I know first hand how abusive kids can be toward drivers. There are obvious reasons for this; there were no monitors on the buses I drove, the kids know that it's almost impossible for the driver to identify them because his back is turned most of the time and he has to be more concerned with keeping everyone alive, the schools didn't support the drivers, and the parents believed their kids over the driver's reports. When the economy was better jobs driving school buses were a choice of last resort and people only did them until they could move on to something better (you know, doing something, anything, where you're essentially not being told to "F" yourself everyday). School bus drivers put up with levels of disrespect every single day that the average person would file charges of harassment for.

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Dorito Bandit

@szore

Exactly! Or something "harmless" as sticking a firecracker up a chicken's ass and lighting it! Cocka-doodle-dooooooooooooooo! I mean, a friend did that. :) I'd never harm a chicken.

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szore

Sheesh! When I was a kid we used to just torture frogs...

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Dorito Bandit

That's a damn shame! Couldn't even watch all of it. The bus driver should have heard what was going on and pulled over to put a stop to it.

I can't understand how people can be so heartless. I was always one who would take up for kids who got bullied in school. Or anyone for that matter. I was raised to be respectful of others, and my parents made sure of it. I had my ass spanked as a child when I done something that was deserving of it. I knew if I screwed up big time, there was an ass whipping waiting for me! I love my parents dearly, and I'm very thankful for the way I was raised. Those lessons taught as a child have kept me out of trouble as an adult. So, I'm a firm believer in tough love when necessary.

Now, I'm not saying we should go Joe Jackson on a child, but some kids need to be better disciplined. Spank that ass when they get out of line. Take them to their local jail and let them see what it looks like on the inside. Try and scare some sense into these mean little f*ckers! We MUST reach them while they're young!

As for that poor lady, I sure hope she is doing well and gets to go have herself an awesome vacation. Let's all chip in and help, guys. Every little bit counts!

Thanks for posting this, Maximum PC, good will come out of it!

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Aerumnosus

Ditto and Amen. :)

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Ulrich

I road the bus, and don't remember anyone disrespecting the bus driver. other than the off remark of "If you can't find it grind it"

The kind of behavior in this video is a result of kids knowing that any adult working for the school district can't say or do anything to them. Too many parents reward bad behavior.

Also I find it interesting while the school and police are investigating... (and I'm sure the school was aware of this before the video came out, but didn't do anything about it) The internet full of diverse, and opinionated people... trolls and non-trolls figured out who the victim is and awarded her (more than the school ever will in her life time)

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smartguy05

If that was my kid I would first make him apologize to the old lady on video and post it. Then I would make him spend the next year doing nothing but helping old people, obese people and the like and not let him do a damn thing. If he wanted something sweet I'd say "no, don't want to be a fat ass do you!?". Children like this make me sick. I hope they all get severe punishments. To many children now a days think they are invincible and can't be touched. One day these kids are going to mouth off to the wrong person and he won't care how old they are. And I hope when it happens someone gets it on Youtube.

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zaznet

Might be a good move to work with the police and have them put your kid in jail for a day or two. They certainly crossed the line and it's a good time to set a strong example for other kids out there.

Maybe have the kids set up a lifelong payback of that fund raiser total.

Plenty of ways to really drive this one home and I'm sure they are now catching a lot of flack from their fellow students too.

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Blues22475

I do recall seeing something like this on tv. It really did scare most, if not all, the kids who appeared straight. Would show them that when you're in the real world crap like that will get you in jail and you will regret it.

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vrmlbasic

"It really did scare most, if not all, the kids who appeared straight."

Did it scare the kids who appeared to _not_ be straight? ;)

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Ulrich

"If that was my kid I would first make him apologize to the old lady on video and post it. Then I would make him spend the next year doing nothing but helping old people, obese people and the like and not let him do a damn thing."

Agree 100% no sports, no anything but community service 20 hours a week for a year. Or ship them off on a mission to some third world country for 6 months to get them right in the head.

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super_duper

This is the outcome when parents play the “cool” and I want to be your “friend“ card. The imaginary line between adults and children gets blurred and discipline becomes lost. This is also the result of just plain lazy/poor parenting that leads to the thought of schools being responsible for teaching manners and respect. A good smack (when deserved) will speak louder than any timeout.

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Blues22475

Agreed. At one point in time you'd be afraid of what you parents would do if you messed up. Now it seems kids don't care what they do as they aren't getting disciplined.

I know if I did something like that, I would get the sense beat into me.

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SPreston2001

I rode the bus in school and never once did we treat our bus driver like this or anyone on the bus for that matter. I went to a public school with students from all different backgrounds, race, and income levels and this was something I never saw. Sure we had fights break out on the bus but never did we sit back and continuously pick and harass someone to the point that tears broke out. Smh those kids need some serious discipline...

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fygquas

This is the by-product of lousy parenting.

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SPreston2001

I agree. That and spoiling your children to the point where they only care about themselves...

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aaronj2906

It has always been this way, and there are plenty more like this. Not always a grandma, but hazing has been around as long as there has been school buses, kids, and increased bravery that comes with pack mentality.

The only thing new here is the camera and the posting online, giving it such vivid detail.

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someuid

I rode the bus for several years when I was a kid and I don't remember any of this happening.

I'm not saying kids are worse now than they are, I'm saying there are a lot of places where the kids don't act this way.

These little turds need to be taught a lesson. I say stick them in some sort of serious basic training like program until they break down and see the error of their ways. Or give them hundreds of hours of working at some sort of charity like Habitat for Humanity where they won't put up with their crap, show them how to be a good citizen, and give them some real skills other than running their mouth.

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Paul_Lilly

This one seems exceptionally cruel to me, compared to the school busses I rode years ago. But yes, the camera and YouTube posting add a new element that didn't exist what seems like not that long ago.

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John Pombrio

Paul, the whole cellphone recording/YouTube post was a staged event by the kids. They pressured another boy into recording the whole thing and then egged themselves on knowing full well that it was being recorded. Even Karen though that the event was highly unusual and not like the normal activity on the bus. What people do while doing YouTube maybe is starting its own new reality show online. Expect more outrageous things in the future.

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szore

What exactly is your point? You are judging them by their intentions. They MUST be judged by the ACTIONS.

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John Pombrio

Sz, ahh, there's the rub. Would the kids actions been the same if there was no recording being made? Paul had a good point that perhaps having YouTube around could fundamentally change our behaviors in the future.

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Raswan

Kids are just the worse, everywhere and everywhen. When I was in middle school, a classmate made fun of a pregnant teacher so bad (something about weight, and other stuff) that she cried and quit. Kid was suspended for a week or something, and that was it. Makes me want to go back in time and punch him in the face, then punch myself in the face for being a coward and not punching him in the face right then.

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