Valve's Steam for Linux Beta Goes Live with 26 Titles

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aarcane

No mention of the fact that anyone can in fact install and run the beta? (At their own risk of course..)

As to all your moroffs complaining about the limited title base, Mac OSX didn't have a lot more choices at it's initial launch either. There are only so many titles that Valve themselves control. The rest will come in time. As gaming on Ubuntu takes off, more developers will see the value and start providing their products on Linux as well. Remember also, that this isn't even supposed to be accessible to the public yet, so a large number of mass-market titles doesn't make much sense.

As to x64 support, I hope it does become available as well, if only to simplify the install process. Either that, or I hope that steam figures out a way to depend on those specific packages. A steam PPA (only hosted by valve) is a good idea. It reduces the install process to "apt-get install steam", which in turn depends on a package, which depends on a package.... and so on, until everything just falls into place.

I do have one more hope for this:
Linux support makes BSD support trivial. Once a linux client is available, any BSD that supports the required libraries should be possible (Assuming that Steam doesn't depend on any linux-specific features). It would be nice if steam also built binaries for the various BSDi so that Free, Open, Net, etc. BSD users would have access to Steam as well.

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Hilarity

ROFL. How pitiful. Linux will never even make a dent against Microsoft at this rate. Where are the standard AAA or AA games? No Call of Duty, no Witcher, no Dragon Age, nothing even vaguely interesting.

Not to mention Linux is still a pain in the ass to generally use. I still have to add noatime to fstab for my SSD. STILL. IN 2012. And nothing is truly plug and play. There are always glitches and the shithole command line.

Linux should just give up. Right now HA!

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DR_JDUBZ

Hah Ubuntu is better supported than ANY OTHER OPERATING SYSTEM, including windows. IT DOES SUPPORT PLUG AND PLAY!!! Windows, having failed on windows 8 as a desktop operating system, should just give up now because ubuntu is the superior system.

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MarioJP

Ha Nonsense talk. I just ditched Ubuntu and put windows back on. I don't want a dysfunctional, fragmented OS. Superior OS my A**S. Even OSX is Superior Than Ubuntu because just like Windows. IT WORKS. With that said. Windows 8 Is better than Ubuntu HANDS DOWN But then again Enthusiast only make up a small portion. MS probably won't even notice this crowd anyways. I am glad that the Computer world has room for all 3 OS's. the Choice is yours. My choice is Windows and OSX :)

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Hey.That_Dude

I really think your issue with Ubuntu is self inflicted because you aren't accustomed to the GUI and OS. I've used it and It's a little different than windows and OSx. Hell, I'll already tell you it's better than a Mac on the simple basis that i can access the shell command prompt and run diagnostics. Got to go to the genius bar for cApple products. As far as Windows... it's a toss up. It's really just a personal choice. Although, one benefit is that Linux is FREE. Beggers can't be choosers, but they can program the crap out of Linux to make it do what they want.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

I can remember when Babbage's and the like carried a lot of Apple software. I switched to DOS and, later, Windows, because that's where the games were. Now that Microsoft is killing PC gaming and closing up the platform, I can see switching to Linux. I'll follow the games, which will gravitate toward an open platform.

It will be fun to watch Microsoft and Apple fight over the electronic toy market for the next few years.

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MarioJP

Kind of battling, or could become a joint-force to battle the competition all due to shared patents between both of them. Apple and MS go to bed together in other words. Its the only reason why Apple has not sued MS, while Apple bullies Samsung like crazy. I must say though, anyone that wants to become a Lawyer now is the time lol.

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MarioJP

This just means more competition in the computer world.

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Dartht33bagger

I tried to download Steam last night because a guy on a forum I post on somehow figured out the commands to download it. Steam is apparently an x86 program though, and I didn't have time to fight with it last night. I hope they make an x64 version of Steam when they officially launch it.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

x64 would yeild no performance boosts, the games can be x64 and thats all it maters. Making steam x64 would also cause it to use more ram which it already uses enough as is.....

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Dartht33bagger

It would just make it a simpler install overall. Of course it won't get a performance boost, but I'd rather run a native program with no performance boost than one that must use a compatibility layer.

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Hey.That_Dude

Mint Please!

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haboh

I installed Linux Mint last night, partially because of the Steam news, and because I want to go more open source in general (plus, geek cred). I'm having some GPU driver issues though with my AMD 6950. Hopefully can find a fix.

But gave me an idea; how about MaxPC put together a linux gaming box? Probably without steam for now (unless Valve will give you beta access..), but trying other games. And report on any problems, fixes, best hardware (some say Nvidia is better, others say AMD. me confused!)

Thanks!

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Andrew.Hodge

Great idea. Builds are what make this site what it is. I loved it when these guys started doing monthly builds.

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Paper Jam

Agreed. Let's see what a Linux gaming box would take and how well it would stack up against a Windows machine of similar cost.

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jgottberg

I'm not a big Linux guy (been using Mint as well for about 2 months off and on) but I would be interested in something like this too. If Linux turned out to be the better platform for gaming, I'd consider building a Linux gaming box.

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Neufeldt2002

Valve has posted that L4D2 runs faster on Linux than on Windows.

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/

They even found that porting to OpenGL has increased the FPS on windows machines as well. The actual differences between DirectX and OpenGL are very small.

http://rastergrid.com/blog/2011/10/opengl-vs-directx-the-war-is-far-from-over/

The Blog may be a year old but highlights the differences nicely between DirectX 10, 11, 11.1 and OpenGL 3.x and 4.x.

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Andrew.Hodge

Actually, from what I've gathered, the Windows version still uses DX. The improvements to framerates on Windows actually appear to be coming from improved coding practices. I actually doubt OGL would be quicker on Windows due to MS purposefully gimping performance to make Direct3D appear to be the better API.

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Neufeldt2002

"OpenGL versus Direct3D on Windows 7

This experience lead to the question: why does an OpenGL version of our game run faster than Direct3D on Windows 7? It appears that it’s not related to multitasking overhead. We have been doing some fairly close analysis and it comes down to a few additional microseconds overhead per batch in Direct3D which does not affect OpenGL on Windows. Now that we know the hardware is capable of more performance, we will go back and figure out how to mitigate this effect under Direct3D."

Taken from the Valve Linux Blog I linked to above.

Yes there are some improved coding practices, but the underlying cause is additional overhead in Direct3D causing it to run slower than OpenGL on Windows.

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