Valve Plans Limited Beta Test for Steam on Linux, Only 1,000 Users Invited

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goomothesumo

"Valve hasn't said which game it's including, but we're willing to bet it's Left 4 Dead 2."

Yeah and watch it be Half Life 3. Gabe is full of surprises... and ho hos

bad jokes aside, I'm happy this is happening. I have for so long wanted to play TF2 like the cool kids but when I tried to install steam through wine, it didn't work.

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bpstone

There are those who will choose to stand idly by while the sequence of events ahead begin unfold. I encourage everyone to instead pitch in. That even includes the skeptics. I want to have other choices besides Windows.

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wumpus

Steam to Linux users: "Rejoice! You can now add DRM to your Linux"

While Linux users might be happy to avoid the windows store, I don't think this is how to do it.

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Andrew.Hodge

I honestly don't see the point in all of the bickering. Power users shouldn't have to only limit themselves to one OS.

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Andrew.Hodge

Really? I can't post here anymore?

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savage4naves

I'm not fully knowledgeable about Linux. I thought Steam could be installed through the Wine app.

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Vecna6667

Sure Steam could be installed via Wine but it is not native and more likely to crash or have problems that will take time to solve. The wine website has a whole list of reports on various programs that perform in vastly different ways from better than Windows to doesn't run at all.

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B.A.Frayd

DirectX is a big stumbling point here. Or, what am I missing?

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BernardBack

I don't understand why anyone is arguing. Linux is developed by an entire community of Open-source brains. How many people develop for MS? Why is Linux's threading system so far out from what anyone else is doing? Christ, the OS supports up to 250 cores. Linux has the most efficient memory management, it's light, it's the best platform for games. Most of all the tech in Windows and Apple are derived from Linux. Just because it is notorious for being complicated to use/ install etc. nobody thinks of it. You don't need Windows and Direct X, you have OpenGL, which the PS3 uses and gets away with just fine and is faster than DX. The best and most secure way to run Windows anyway, is as a guest host, in Virtualbox, in Linux.

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DarkStarX

What your overlooking is that Linux community is also it's biggest drawback when it comes to getting new people using the OS.

For a group that claims to want to increase Linux use they sure seem to go out of their way to discourage new users. Basically it seems they only want to deal with noobs who know everything about Linux and anyone who isn't fully versed in it are welcomed as warmly and friendly as Jesse Jackson would be at a klan rally.

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BernardBack

I've always felt that Steam just needs to go and make their own Gaming/ Multimedia OS. We can all just dual boot. Windows for everyday work, Steam OS for gaming.

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TheRyGuy

I don't get why Valve is complaining about it. Windows - the platform that gives them the most business - will have tiles instead of icons, a taskbar, and desktop. Sure, they don't have to use it themselves, but should at least support it.

I believe there'll be a whole new group of casual gamers because of the tablets. I've even noticed casual games on Steam that the tablets should be able to handle. If you can use a smartphone, you'll be able to figure out Windows 8 easily.

I don't think Valve should shut the doors on Windows, biting the hand that feeds them. Is everyone happy with the change? No, but change is inevitable.

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Brad Chacos

Those tiles are Windows 8 apps. Windows 8 apps can only be purchased through the Windows Store. In addition to being a "walled garden," Microsoft takes a 30% cut of any apps sold though the Windows Store. (But not in-app purchases.) That's why Gabe Newell has a problem with it. (Though, as Cregan notes, Steam is a walled garden of its own.)

If you don't offer your app through the Windows Store, classic-style programs can still be launched in desktop mode, but classic-style programs don't get Live Tiles on the Metro start screen.

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Cregan89

I really don't understand how people are getting fooled by this... Valve is trashing Windows 8's Windows Store for being a "walled garden", and their solution is the Steam Store walled garden!?

Anybody proclaiming "Windows 8's controlled ecosystem sucks! Go Steam!" is seriously fooling themselves. Steam is the EXACT same thing as the Windows Store, and the only reason Valve is trashing Windows 8 is because the Windows Store is a direct competitor to Steam.

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someuid

"Steam is the EXACT same thing as the Windows Store, and the only reason Valve is trashing Windows 8 is because the Windows Store is a direct competitor to Steam."

No they aren't.

Windows Store will be included with every copy of Windows 8. Steam won't.

If you think that is a minor point, go ask the folks at Netscape what happens when Microsoft pulls that stunt.

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philipa25

Steam is on macs now, are they bitching about the app store being in OSX? It's amazing how everyone likes to complain about what Microsoft does when it's ok for everyone else to do the exact same thing.

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immersive

Steam is not a "walled garden." Steam has competitors such as Origin and everyone in the world is free to challenge them.

Now think about this. DVD drives are going away and the only way to install software will be through some kind of store like on your android or iphone. That store will be incorporated into windows 8 and will soon become the only way to install software on a windows machine.

Say Torchlight 2 was available in the windows store and Steam. Now the user has a choice of:
A. Sign into windows store and buy game
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B. Sign into windows store to download a store to sign into to buy game.

Honestly what option makes more since to you? This is why Valve is pissed. On top of that Valve would probably have to pay Microsoft outrageous bandwidth prices to have a free app in their store. Why? Because Microsoft is distributing the steam client for them and they have no choice.

This is what Valve and other companies are afraid will happen eventually.

And really why wouldn't Microsoft do something like this? It makes perfect since. Its their OS they can do with it what they want. Maybe someday Windows will be free to everyone because Microsoft makes all their money from store sales just like Apple, Samsung, etc. do with their mobile OSes.

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Peanut Fox

Too true.

The Windows store could put Valve at a huge disadvantage as upon installing Windows, everyone will have access to the Windows store front while Valve will be left to convince people that their software is worth the download.

As long as Valve can remain price competitive and continue to offer features people want they'll be okay. Besides. In a couple years the EU will level the playing field by asking Microsoft for lots of money and mandating they make some changes. Hopefully by then we see some improvements within Metro.

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Cregan89

Double Post

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Peanut Fox

I'll be interested to see what the final numbers will be of people who only use the Linux version.

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ApathyCurve

I seriously hope Microsoft has finally and fatally stomped on their dicks with this Win8 proprietary garbage.

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skirge01

What's the plan for the other 900 invitations?

/joke

Couldn't resist...

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jgottberg

HAHA - I got a chuckle out of it :)

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Recidivist

http://i.imgur.com/H8clR.gif

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Andrew.Hodge

Touche'. Nice one.

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