Use Mom's Netflix Login, Go Directly To Jail

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Volleynova

The amount of people sharing the same Netflix ID is massive and it's something that will always happen. Family accounts are extremely popular these days, so suck it RIAA and crawl back to the 20th century where you belong--along with the Nielsen family.

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WarpathPS

I used to be a corrections officer, these types of stories are utter nonsense. Many states are slashing budgets on prisons and letting offenders out early or farming offenders out to other states. There are about 4 million people in prison in the U.S. and half of them are drug related crimes. Of the millions of people logging on to your friend or parent's user account, good luck trying to finance the county and state prisons. The worst you could do is make it an infraction.

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HeroOfCanton

I'm sure they'll be more than happy to collect a ridiculous fine though. That's all this kind of junk is: a moneymaking scheme for the state.

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ChangingWinds

The link to The Tennessean above "the Associated Press reports" Leads to a page that says "OH, SNAP!
The Page you requested cannot be displayed.
This page may have moved or no longer exists. You can search
for the page you were looking for or go back to The Tennessean home."

Can someone please fix this I would like to see the referenced page.

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ChangingWinds

I haven't seen the actual bill however how does it say who owns it? If I give someone my bank card and pass pin then that makes them an authorized user until I change my pin number. Guessing best thing to do is never go to Tennessee. Unlike boycotting netflix which actually does nothing, If you leave Tn the place that makes it illegal, they may change there laws.

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nealtse

The RIAA is not a law enforcement agency, they are not elected.  They represent private interests. WHY ARE THEY BEHIND LAW MAKING AT ALL.

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bpstone

That is an extremely dumb idea. You put innocent people in the crosshairs. The punishment should equal the crime as well. A great example of lawmakers going way too overboard again. What the fuck do these people do all day? Sit around a table smoking herb with a bottle of shine playing cards throwing out random bullshit that they think should be great laws. Get a life! lol

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WarpathPS

It is nonsense just ignore such stories.

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livebriand

Seriously? If one person uses another family member's login, they get in legal trouble. BIG TROUBLE. Gee, and what about the times when both mom and you are watching TV together? How does that work? Seriously, RIAA (and MPAA), fuck you. This is rediculous. And how do they expect to catch people? Can multiple people in one household use the same account or not? And I suppose you can't use it in 2 places at once? Really, this is rediculous. I suppose the college students will just go to bittorrent instead if they can't do this. Of course, then the movie studios will get no money from them at all. HA!

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Biceps

Ok, wtf? Did there really need to be a law for this?  Why doesn't netflix just make it part of the EULA that you can't share your password/account with other users or use it simultaneously on multiple devices.  They can also put in the EULA that if they suspect you are sharing, that they can cut you off.  If you have normal or even relatively abnomal usage, ok, fine.  But if you are somehow regularly watching 72 hours of streaming video in less than 24 hours, they ban hammer you. 1st time for a month, second time for life. Period. Goodbye Netflix. 

The kind of jerk who is really, truly abusing netflix is probably going to be more frightened of a lifetime netflix ban than anything else.

Thank you Teneesee for proving that even your lawmakers are inbred.  Well done.

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raint567

I don’t mind this law, but the fines and consequences are ridiculous. Those should be minor laws and are not a threat to a citizen. This doesn’t even compare to a ticket fine, driving fast cost me about $140 here in Texas, but I was putting "in danger" other people. But this is ridiculous. Unless the person had their account stolen and decides to put charges that a different story. But has long as the owner of the account doesn’t put chargers it is not the States nor the subscribers business on who has access to that account. I have Netflix, and both my girlfriend and sitter know my login information. We live in the same house, and when I'm at work they access the account to stream movies. But I personally wouldn’t give my info beyond my family because I wouldn’t trust other people. I know they will just watch movies when they bored, threes no problem there. But I wouldn’t like to have to make an account for me then my girlfriend then my sister, while we all live in the same house.

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maseone

netflix account, canceled... that was easy.

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bling581

Yeah good one! Cause Netflix was totally at fault. How about just not sharing your account? Problem solved.

Not that I care, just sayin'.

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aFineWayToDie

Up until recently, I was a highschool student. On multiple occasions, I've shared my netflix account with my teachers, so that they could share a documentary with their classes. Now that makes me a criminal? This is ridiculous.

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nHeroGo

Tennessee. The "Volunteer State". The state bird is the Northern Mockingbird and the state wild animal is the Raccoon. It is a "right to work" state which means that it is unlawful for unions to collect membership dues or payments and thus strangles the worker right for protection. 

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Nimrod

LMFAO yeah fuck man i wish i worked some where that forced me to PAY union dues for a bunch of shit that doesnt help me. Get a fking life. If you need some egotistical union to demand "worker protection" for you because your to stupid to do it for your self then you dont deserve it.

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stradric

Wow, Nimrod, you are kind of a moron, aren't you?  You clearly don't know the history of unions or understand what collective bargaining is and why it exists.  Your comment is so incredibly disrespectful to the people who fought and died for the worker protection that you certainly enjoy today.  There's nothing left to do but call you exactly what you are: a moron.

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Ghok

Please speak for yourself. I enjoy the protection my union provides me, as well as dental care, sick days, holiday pay... etc. Unions can be a problem if they become to big, corrupt, or unwilling to work with a struggling company, but they also do a lot of good. On occasion lazy workers can get by if the management is equally lazy in not wanting to go through the proper procedures in firing someone (because they have to reason things like proof of the reason for firing someone). A few years ago the company didn't want to give out raises, we threatened to strike and then we got our raise.   If we ever felt like the union wasn't serving us, we could vote to get rid of it. The company I work for is part of a huge conglomerate. I have never met the person who decides my pay, and I've worked here for a decade (so I don't know exactly how to demand protection for myself). I would not get the same benefits if not for the union and would have a much lower standard of living.

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aarcane

The awards in favor of companies should never outweigh the actual damages.  actual damages on using someone else's netflix account?  ~$20/month each month it was used.  Fees to the state for crime enforcement, court costs, penile value?  sure, that's different, but the companies should never see a penny of that.  But anyway, shouldn't this sort of legislation be civil and not criminal?  let them sue for damages when they feel they can prove actual damages outweigh costs of suing.

On another related note, if my wife and I have netflix on our TV, and it's in her name, am I allowed to watch, or do I have to leave the room?  Can our sister and her boyfriend (who live here too) watch netflix as well?  does it have to be on our gaming console, or can they own their xbock and we own our wii and we both watch them?  having two netflick subscriptions for one house with two internet connections and one mailbox strikes me as wasteful and unreasonable :(

That's why I stick to ripping movies and sending them back.  no issues arrise that way.

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AkuPenguin

Wow. What a coincidence I just watched this yesterday.No wonder junk like this happens over there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zCY99-Y540

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someuid

Well, I'll be honest here.  $8 is pretty f'ing cheap.  Buy your own account and stop mooching off other people.  One per household isn't that bad.

But, on the other hand.  Jail time?  That is way, way too harsh of a punishment, especially when media companies do such a horrible job of security themselves.

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duncansil

Does that mean we can throw all the Sony execs in jail ;)

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bloodhawke83

the people that are taking govnment assiastance believe they are entitled to anything they think should be free.

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Nimrod

It good to see private self interested organizations writing ambiguous laws that favor their own financial situation. Technically thats fascism but who cares right?

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Holly Golightly

I would not necessarily say it is Fascist, I would say it is more like Capitalism. Money before people. Such a capitalistic move to force people to pay up, instead of share. I give free music to all of my friends all the time. Sometimes I just refer them where to get the free stuff at my school. I don't have netflix, but I would be more than glad to allow my mom to use "my" NetFlix if she wanted to. I am not going to tell me mom to buy her own subscription while we both use the same computer... Come on Tennessee... That is just stupid. They need to be for their own people instead of the businesses. The makes further a proud communist.

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Nimrod

Its NOT capitalism. Capitalism is NOT legislation. When corporations write the laws it becomes fascism, that is the very definition of fascism. I say it on here all the time because MPC does a good job of covering this kind of thing.

 

Capitalism has no power to write law or to legislate, it abides by the laws of supply and demand and human behavior. Fascism is a form of government where a few select corporations control the governing party or tell it what to do. Thats what is going on here.

 

Its no different than when the executive head of Monsanto becomes the chief of the FDA and then gives Monsanto copious amounts of power inside the government. The people in the MPAA are all industry executives.

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Ghok

Nimrod is right, Holly.

For one thing, capitalism is soley an economic system, which we're not talking about here.

Now, there is potential in a capitalist country for abuse, and that can result in fascism... but it is really going against the idea of capitalism, where supply and demand rules. A good product or service doesn't need a law to be made in order for it to be effective.

I sympathize with some of your communist ideals, but it's not like that system has never been abused and corrupted either. It has a really bad track record.

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bloodhawke83

So you're in jail and they ask for what you're in for, you say? I'm in for logging into my mom's Netflix account.

 

then you get raped.

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p47riot

hot coffee just shot out my nose.

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cappo

That is why you tell them that you killed or assaulted someone for their account. After that they will think you are insane and will most likely leave you alone.

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p47riot

"I wish I could tell you those bull-queers let Andy be...but here in Shawshank, there are no happy endings.  Poooor Andy..."

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Brad Chacos

Especially if you word it just like that.

"So whaddaya in here for?"

"I killed or assaulted someone for their Netflix account." See, it sounds like you're so crazy you can't even decide which heinous crime you committed! Crazy: keeping your manhood safe in prison since 1631.

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Ghok

How about making it illegal to use someone else's account without permission? Oh, because this isn't to protect consumers, it's to cater to big business. Funny how much that goes around when you have both sides of the political spectrum so against it at a grassroots level. Who exactly was pushing for this law?

I really hate the idea of making laws to go around the fact a business model doesn't work they way a company wants it. Doesn't it make sense to work it into the service? If I were Netflix I would make it so that no one could be logged in from a different IP at the same time, and put a high limit the amount of content someone is allowed to watch in a certain time period (say, 24 hours a day of streaming before it shuts off). At worst, you're going to have people in the same house using the same account. You know, like gas, electricity, cable, internet...  and every other service out there.

I can totally understand why a business wouldn't want dozens of people using one account, but people DO share things even beyond services, be it a CD or a book or magazine. Most of us do think that's okay within reason. And as the RIAA learned (or maybe it hasn't yet) if you go against what the majority think is okay, the people lose all respect for you, and spend their money elsewhere.

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devastator_2000

Netflix already has some protection in place.  You can only have so many devices registered at one time, and the PC counts as a device.  Also, you can only hace so many devices playing at the same time.  I have the 3 at a time subscription and i can watch on 3 devices at once, but when I had the 1 at a time service it would only allow 2 devices.

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win7fanboi

hello Tennessee's politicians how does it feel like when the world knows your are the scum of the worst kind. That vacation home won't buy your dignity back... you know what we know... kickbacks from RIAA for selling your soul... despicable.

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MattyMattMatt

FUCK YEAH AMERICA!

 

Burn your constitution as that old rag apparently doesn't work in any way shape or form.

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makius

WHAT... THE... FU-CK...

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Joji

It's great to be Canadian!! **Sarcasm**

But no, seriously. This is completely ridiculous. I'm guessing they're going to randomly suspect certain people as "suspected terorists" and stalk them until they accidentally use their buddy's netflix account, and BAM!! Instant reason to put him in jail. /facepalm

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BF100

Yea I'll probably sound like a conspiracy theorist but this sounds like the media industry slowly pushing for laws that will eventually lead to enormous profit for themselves. Even with piracy and whatnot the media industry still remains afloat but they are not worried about that. all they see is the possibility of lost profits s this is their way of trying to get those profits back. Overly strict laws and lawsuits or fines over double the amount that may have been lost.

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ShyLinuxGuy

Confirmed: the MAFIAA is a scum organization. Tennessee, like any other state, has a lot more to worry about other than people sharing or using Netflix account information.

How will they catch people using other people's information (or giving it away)? TCP/IP does not divulge information about who is using network services if the person in question is using false credentials, so this IP witch hunt that the MAFIAA is known for isn't going to work. At all. We should find out soon, and being because the MAFIAA is involved, it wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary if they were spying with people's webcams to find out if any different person (face) sits down and watches a movie. There's *no* other way possible that I know of to catch these people...short of them relying on the occasional dumbass to admit it openly.

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DDRDiesel

As far as IP is concerned, if you register with a service like Netflix, it is possible that the IP your used to register will be cached with that information.  All of a sudden, differen IP addresses start popping up with different names registered to those IPs, and BAM!  You've got yourself an investigation.  At least, that's how I see this happening

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stradric

Nah, that doesn't make sense.  Most people don't have static IPs.

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Archtard

I have no issue with this bill as long as they are restricted to going after individuals distributing their account info in bulk. If this really is their aim they should have that in the bill. Going after people for sharing account login info with in house family or significant others is rediculous.

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AnglicDemon00

I wonder how long to we see a new clip or articial of people going against this bill? 

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Paul_Lilly

Slightly off topic, but since we're talking about Netflix-related crimes, I'd like to press charges against Netflix for not adding The Wonder Years to its streaming catalog as was promised at the end of March. That, and for removing the original Leave It to Beaver series from Instant Play after I was a handful of episodes into it.

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kixofmyg0t

Wait a second, Netflix REMOVED A FEATUREd item? That's it, our "rights" need "protecting". Anon needs to hack netflix and steal everyone's credit card data. That'll teach the evil netflix for "removing features we paid for". 

Yes that was a rant, and yes it is the same thing as Sony/OtherOS. 

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toasty

Buddy, I hope you understand that Anonymous had nothing to do with the stolen info. That was some people running custom firmware and using some exploits to fake their way into the developer network and secure 'billions and billions' of accounts and user info. Sony breached their EULA and removed linux and that isn't legal. All anon did was DDoS sony's web hosting servers and take the network down for less than 30 minutes. Sony blaming anon was a slimy move that wasn't even called for. Netflix isn't doing anything wrong and they aren't breaking your agreement so this comparison is waaaaay far off. As a side note I find humor in the fact that sony places DRM on everything but they couldn't be bothered to encrypt their servers that were running outdated firmware holding customer data. I understand you mere joking (I hope) but think about it before posting next time. also why not listen to this.

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devastator_2000

I am still waiting for all the Star Trek TV shows to show up on Netflix.

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someuid

July 1st.  I don't know where I read that, it just stuck in my head because I've been watching STTNG from season 1 episode 1 all the way through to the end, in order.

I'm on the last disc of the series.

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DDRDiesel

Which one?

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