DJSPIN80

September 17, 2010 at 6:38am

Honestly, with PCIe so common in most motherboards, just buy the PCIe card and be done with.  All chipset integration will do is provide a direct channel to the chipset (via the I/O hub).  You're still stuck with the max rate of USB 3.0, even on a PCI2 2.0 x1 (~500MB/s), USB 3.0's 400MB (max theoretical) will still be under the x1 lane max theoretical.

Light Peak is far more interesting (and honestly, scalable) technology than USB 3.0.  I see USB 3.0 as a good stepping stone but eventually, we'll hit the ceiling for copper based cabling and optical cabling will pick up.  Aside from this, very few devices nowadays benefit from USB 3.0 - external hard drives and cameras are the only things I can think of.  However, with the advent of NAS and other networkable storage, they offer a better value than their USB counterparts, IMO. 

So not all new things are great and not all things new are revolutionary.  So drop the pitchfork and torches, take a deep breath and see what the industry players will do.

PM_DMNKLR

September 16, 2010 at 5:28pm

I think the problem is that they're not ready to admit that they're having difficulty with the bandwidth issue on their current chipsets, considering they're not saying WHY they're holding off.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're trying to further develop their chips to enable the increase of bandwidth need, to a point of where it won't slow down anything else in the way of which it currently does, such as PCI-E.

jac_goudsmit

September 16, 2010 at 2:59pm

What I would like to see happen is that Western Digital, Seagate and other hard disk manufacturers start making USB3 the native interface on internal hard disks, and that AMD starts making USB3 standard on their chipsets. That way just like with AMD's x64 standard that Intel now licenses from them, they will see the error of their ways.

ferariman

September 16, 2010 at 2:34pm

i agree this is amds time to shine with their phenom II processor.

puremasterx

September 16, 2010 at 1:46pm

USB 3.0 is that thing that people want to have, but most likely will never become a huge success. Most companies wont start adopting 3.0 until everyone wants it, and right now only people who are avid computer users want it. the average person wont want it right now because they will just say "well i have a usb port already, so i don't need this". If getting 3.0 means buying a new computer for most people, they wont need it until they need a new computer.

I Jedi

September 16, 2010 at 12:59pm

Are they fucking serious? Honestly, what is the fucking delay in getting USB 3.0 out? Intel needs to step up its game, and get this new standard on a roll. Apart of the reason I was personally waiting to build my next computer was because of USB 3.0. Now, some engineer from Intel tells me that it won't be supporting USB 3.0 till 2012? I think I know what the apocolyptic event will be in 2012. It will be me... turning into the Hulk, and smashing windows and doors at Intel.

win7fanboi

September 16, 2010 at 12:25pm

Any surprise they are getting fined again and again and again for their anti-competitive practices.

Hope they bleed dry from lawsuits.... and usb 3.0 devices are already in the market. By 2012 it won't matter much if intel supports it or not. Now is the chance AMD.... show the dumb fcuks how its done

someuid

September 16, 2010 at 10:56am

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here and suggest maybe this is a good thing.  We need a big player to push us into the optical cable realm because copper can only go so far.

We're also drowning in different specs and users are still confused as to what plugs in where.  USB has made that a bit easier, but I still talk to people daily who don't know what Ethernet is, or Firewire, or eSATA, or the 3,876,218 flavors of DVI.

Just as the OS has made something like printer drivers a no-brainer (who here remembers needing a print driver for each program they used), maybe Light Peak will make cable connections a no brainer.  The engineers handle all the goory details and our moms and dads just plug all those peripherals into the available ports on the back/front/side/hub and are done with it.

Mabe Intel is also working with our non-friends, the MPAA, to get Light Peak to carry HDMI, meaning the interconnects between computers and home theater systems become even simpler for mom and dad.

Biceps

September 16, 2010 at 10:52am

Hey Intel,

Way to actively stifle innovation yet again.  Maybe if you guys invent a time machine, you can go back and headshot Albert Einstein, too.  Since he never worked for Intel, you probably should.

Guess who's not getting a motherboard with an Intel chipset ever again.  You get one guess.

How is this not raising the wrath of the anti-monopoly peeps, btw?  Even Intel is admitting that their refusal to adopt the newest in technology is going to create a (negative) market-wide impact.  This is a pretty clear case of monopolistic behavior, as far as I can tell.

Dicks (IMO, of course).

Keith E. Whisman

September 16, 2010 at 10:41am

Come on villagers, grab your torches and pitch forks.

machew100

September 16, 2010 at 10:01am

"it's really anyone's guess as to when the world's No. 1 chip maker will get on board"

pun alerttttttttttttt!

I actually liked that one, keep the puns rolling please! :p

machew100

September 16, 2010 at 9:58am

I can't believe Intel has that much power in whether or not USB 3.0 becomes a standard feature. Needs more market diversity in chipsets.

jlh304

September 16, 2010 at 9:46am

I'm all for moving forward and getting the new standard going, but I would rather they get light peak here it's something I know I could use, not sure what I'm going to us USB 3.0 for (though I'm sure I will find something when the time comes).  I would think it wouldn't take a lot of effort for Intel to switch from 2 to 3 on the usb side.