Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Now Available for Download

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gmvolk

October 16, 2011 at 2:41pm

Every now and then, I give linux a try, but I always go back to windows.  Tried this latest version of Ubuntu and really don't like it.  The unity shell is promising, but needs work.  Very hard to see what programs are running.  Installed Gnome packages, they are just as bad.  Installed the KDE packages, lost my wireless connection over ALL the shells!  Even lost the task bar in KDE, trying to put it back and it kept crashing.  Right now, I am downloading Mint, but seeing as it is based off Ubuntu I am not sure if I am going to install it or not.  Ubuntu is starting to get some things right were the masses should be able to use it, maybe when they get to about version 20 they will get the kinks finally worked out.

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maxeeemum

October 16, 2011 at 8:27pm

Go for it! Linux Mint is often called "Ubuntu done right". Believe me it is! You won't be sorry!

 

Also when adding stuff like KDE do some research first. If you try to do it as you would in windows you'll have bad results. They are two diferent animals. 

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gmvolk

October 18, 2011 at 7:09am

I went ahead and installed it. Yes this is not only Ubuntu done right, in my opinion it is Windows done right!  This may just be the Linux Distro to make me switch for good.  Few issues getting the wireless going, have the broadcom chipset and Mint offered to install proprietery drivers but it kept giving an error and said to review some log file.  Google'd the problem and found a fairly easy fix and got the wireless installed.  I've tried linux many times over the years and have a good understanding of installing KDE, XFCE and the like.  The install was not the problem, KDE was not too bad even to use(although not perfect), it just shut off my wireless and I could not get it back on.  Probably could have if I spent some time on it, but at that point I was pretty dissapointed with Ubuntu as always.

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gmvolk

October 23, 2011 at 2:45pm

Ah so wrong again!  One of the problems with Linux is one group does this part, one group does that part and one group tries to put it all togethor.   When things don't work, nobody wants to admit they did anything wrong.  Linux mint has just as many bugs as Ubuntu.  It's a promising distro, but I spent more time trying to make things work, compiz, right click create launcher, having apps run at start up, getting remote desktop to work, just rebooting, mapping network drives, etc.  I got more agravated with my PC.  At least with windows, things work and when they don't MS will find out and hopefully fix it.  Maybe next year I'll try again.  The only distro I really like and use is Puppy Linux, I can boot off a cd and do what I have to do, usually to fix older PC's at work or at least salvage files.

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Silencer

October 25, 2011 at 2:33pm

Good report.  TY.

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bpstone

October 15, 2011 at 11:43am

Their underlying code is rather sloppy in my opinion. Wish there was another dominant figure in the market besides cash cow (Microsoft) and control freak (Apple).

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Silencer

October 15, 2011 at 12:08pm

Linux's dominance is unavoidable, from my perspective.  It's only a matter of:  Who?  and:  When?  And as do most people, I'll continue rolling with Windows 7, until Linux 'actually works'.  'PlayOnLinux', is where we're at, ATM, IMO.

http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1004.html

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maxeeemum

October 16, 2011 at 1:42pm

I have to agree but it will take time maybe 10 years. If a major player like Google gets in or teams up with a popular Linux distro it could happen sooner. In fact I read a story awhile back that MS felt Linux was its biggest threat.  

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whiskeymcclinton

October 14, 2011 at 9:47am

I tried using Ubuntu Versions 6.04 thru 8.10, and always found something lacking. Either hunting for drivers, or wasting time just to get it working the way I wanted.

I tried Ubuntu Super OS edition 11.04 recently and was quite pleased to find everything "just worked." Didn't even have to hunt for drivers.

I don't have a problem with the Unity shell. It poaches some of the best features from Windows 7 and OSX. If they want more people to start using Ubuntu, Canonical is on the right path.

For those that want to spend a day just to get their linux box "just right," they may have to look elsewhere.

 

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maxeeemum

October 14, 2011 at 5:26pm

I wish it worked for me. Unity wouldn't even run on my box that will run the Windows 7 Aero GUI. Even podcaster Larry Bushey of the "Going Linux" podcast who has promoted Ubuntu for years now has left Ubuntu because of Unity. He now runs Linux Mint and recommends it. Mint installs and runs right after install with no driver problems. I have never installed Ubuntu without having to tweak it.

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Silencer

October 15, 2011 at 11:57am

What Motherboard is (/was) it, if you recall?  (Just curious.  Research.)  Rev. too.

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Engelsstaub

October 15, 2011 at 4:25am

I actually got it to work now (regarding my previous comment. It just needed more free space in the root directory than I was allocating to it...or something.)

You can now install GNOME shell easily from Ubuntu's software centre. At the login screen you can switch the settings to load a variety of desktop environments. Unity 3D (of course,) 2D (which works exceptionally well in VMs with little GPU and RAM allocation,) Gnome classic (which I think would pretty much please anyone who doesn't like the newer UIs,) and Gnome 3.

I like and use Fedora 15 and have tried LinuxMint. They are both great. Ubuntu has the distinction of having the most support and software in its repositories. I still think it's a great choice for anyone wanting to check out Linux.

Mint's great but don't be afraid to give Ubuntu another spin. If it hogs resources in Unity or GNOME 3 mode there's always classic GNOME. 

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maxeeemum

October 16, 2011 at 1:27pm

That's interesting! I did install it on a small partition maybe that's why it wouldn't run. I'll have to give it another shot.

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Silencer

October 14, 2011 at 7:48am

I'll prob check it.

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Engelsstaub

October 14, 2011 at 3:28am

I would love to upgrade. Been having problems in VirtualBox with it locking up and crashing the host OS/entire system as well.

Doesn't seem to matter if it's an over-the-top upgrade or a fresh install either. The only difference is the amount of wrench-time I have to put into an alternate install for full-disk encryption. (Be great if Ubuntu would just ship with such an option. Even OS X Lion has it...)

I'm thinking that if I can't even get it to install in a VM without bringing an entire system to its data-corrupting knees, that installing it on a physical computer would be equally futile for now.

Too damned bad, I guess. I like Ubuntu and heard that it worked with the GNOME 3 UI now. What a fargin' bummer.

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maxeeemum

October 14, 2011 at 1:26am

New Ubuntu means new Linux Mint 12 is coming. Ever since Ubuntu switched to unity many are ditching this OS. The last one I used on a regular basis was 10.04. Too bad Ubuntu doesn't care what the users want anymore. If your looking for a good alternative I recommend Linux Mint.

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Neel Chauhan

October 13, 2011 at 12:02pm

Anyways I hate ubuntu. you can't use it. I tried slackware and it's a much better distro if you know what you're doing.

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IT_crowd

October 13, 2011 at 1:17pm

"much better if you know what you are doing, huh?"

...and I bet if you know what you are doing with Ubuntu, you would really enjoy it - sorry you didnt take the time to really appreciate it. Move along, little troll. 

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bpstone

October 15, 2011 at 12:16pm

Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinions Jerad doesn't mean they are a troll.

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