Tough Pill: Sony Swallows $115 Million Net Loss

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DR_JDUBZ

sony can burn in hell

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yammerpickle2

I'm glad Sony seems to be doing better. I agree the brand is too diluted from 20 years ago to earn a place in my home, but hopefully they survive to keep Panasonic, Samsung, and LG on their toes and turning into another Sony.

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MaximumMike

Two brands are not allowed in my house- Apple and Sony. Though I dislike Sony slightly less than Apple, they have done plenty to earn my disdain. I have come to see them as something far less than the premium name they had when I was a teenager. There was a time when I wouldn't buy a product until it could clearly demonstrate it was better than the Sony alternative. Heck I even considered inferior brands like Aiwa because of their affiliation with Sony. But when they started installing uninvited root kits on customers' computers due to their inexcusably overzealous commitment to DRM, I immediately vowed not to buy any Sony products that came with software. And as they continued to make inferior products and treat their customers like garbage over the years, I have pretty much relegated them to the bottom of the electronics market, slightly Above Apple in reputation, but below them in quality. There is a definitively better name in every market they compete in, except arguably in the console market. But the whole fiasco with the PS3 and how they started taking features away from users and then prosecuting customers who found ways (hacks) to get those features back utterly disgusted me. And that's not to mention how badly they were embarrassed by Anonymous's exploitation of their virtually non-existent and laughable security of customer data. I can honestly say I have written Sony off in every electronics category imaginable, and I believe many other people have as well. The Sony name certainly isn't what it was 20 years ago. They have a long road to haul if they don't want to keep having quarters like this one. And I would think that reestablishing customer trust and loyalty would be priority number one.

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D00dlavy

I respect that. I know too many people who are tools. What makes one a tool? Refusal to vote with one's wallet.

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Jox

+1

Sony of the 1980's was a force to be reckoned with. Their name was impeccable and their products were top notch. Today, Sony Corporation (which produces the hardware) is constantly being told by Sony Music and Sony Pictures that they must modify their hardware to meet the needs of these other branches of the company. IMHO, until Sony dumps the media arms of their organization, they will be forever relegated to the back-benches of technology. Companies like LG and Samsung offer much better value and don't take away functionality post-sale.

Having said that, I do own a PS3. I consider it to be superior to the XBox360 in almost every way (save perhaps the online service), but the constant clawback of functionality and increased and expanded DRM restrictions have chipped away at that advantage greatly. Today, my PS3 is an expensive BluRay player that I sometimes use for gaming (once or twice a month). I have (barring some new revelation) no intention of purchasing their next console as I cannot rely on the feature list to remain constant. When my PS3 dies it will be replaced with a stand-alone BluRay player, most likely from Samsung.

-Jox

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wolfing

I wonder about the PS4. Xbox 720 is rumored to have an always-on DRM with mechanisms to stop used games from playing. Sony has two options here, do the same thing to not lose developer support, or NOT do the same thing, and possibly lure consumers from the Xbox platform.

Personally I wouldn't buy any console (Xbox720 or PS4) that has an always-on DRM. Most of the games I buy are pre-owned (I'm so not paying $60+ for a game).

If they're smart, they could turn around the whole thing by implementing a Steam-like platform, in which most games (if not all) are available by download and with frequent discounts. That would kill Microsoft's Xbox 720 in one fell swoop. But knowing Sony, they won't do it.

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D00dlavy

Gaming PC. Consoles are crappy expensive toys anyway.

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Biceps

You could also go the smart route and jump the console ship altogether and build a gaming pc. You save money in the long run, and can upgrade the PC as tech improves. You buy an xbox 720 or a ps4 and you'll be stuck with an underpowered pos in 2 years. Plus with a PC, you can take advantage of all those great Steam sales that make your GameStop 'used' prices look like a ransom.

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jgottberg

Not trying to be argumentative but I think it's a safe bet that anyone reading and posting on this site has an awareness of PC gaming and it's advantages. I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape though when you say you game on one platform or the other. Why is it a sin to game on both? Or for that matter, one or the other??

I prefer gaming on a console but have been doing it for years on a PC too.

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wolfing

Preaching to the choir here. I already own a gaming PC, with a Steam queue that I'll need another lifetime to play through. But there are games on the consoles that I like to play too that don't come to PCs. Consoles also have the added benefit of letting me play from the comfort of my bed, on my 60" TV with 5.1 home theater.

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MaximumMike

If you're not rocking a gaming setup that will let you play your PC games "from the comfort of [your] bed, on [your] 60" TV with 5.1 home theater," then I'd say you could dump some of that console money into upgrades for your gaming PC. :P

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Biceps

yeah, jgottberg, I get where you are coming from. I don't particularly care what platform someone uses (it is a personal choice, after all), but I do think it is a bit silly to get locked into a console because the prices are very high for games, and - as you pointed out - they are always looking for ways to make you pay more for your games; if you aren't paying $59.99 for every game, apparently the execs at EA think there is a problem with your soul. For me personally, I am more of a strategy gamer, and it is hard to find anything resembling a real RTS or turn based strategy game on a console. I can't imagine trying to play Sins of a Solar empire on xbox, for example.

I have my PC hooked into my HDTV atm and can play from my bed, too, and have to agree w maximum mike there - if you can't you should upgrade. It is probably cheaper than a PS4.

Anyway, do what you like, of course, but I think the console world is going to get more restrictive, and I choose the PC for its freedom. My apologies if I came across a bit judgemental - it is a skill of mine.

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jgottberg

Yo Biceps,

Exactly man... There are some games that you just can't play on a console like Sins; or if you could, it would be agonizing. And don't get me started on EA. Ass clowns at best.

I didn't take you for judgemental but it just seems like whenever an article is posted about consoles, the MPC'ers go ape. I was just asking a general question (Why can't we game on both), not necessarily intended directly to you.

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Biceps

Glad to see some segments are doing better. Sony still has a long way to go in soliciting and incorporating customer feedback into their products, and just about any non-gaming device I have purchased from than in the past 5 years has had truly terrible quality issues. In my humble opinion, if they can address those two points in a real way (meaning waking up their marketing department and their global managers to the fact they are way behind the curve in those places) they stand a chance of a turn around.

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