Toshiba Gives Up On Netbooks in North America

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Manila Man

Pretty poor reporting. Toshiba is abandoning netbooks in the United States, but the Ultrabook series is still going to be sold here. I suspect that the Z830 was the only bit of clip art they could find and the writer probably didn't bother to check his facts.

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Mayhemm

I'm a bit confused here.

I thought the Portege Z830 was an Ultrabook, not a netbook. See http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/sata-3/toshiba-z830-13-3-ultrabook-laptop-review-toshiba-creates-one-amazing-ultrabook/

Does Toshiba use the same model designation for different classes of laptop? Ex: Z830 w/ 10" display = netbook?
Z830 w/ 13.3" display = Ultrabook?

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Peanut Fox

Ultrabooks don't have Atom processors.

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aarcane

Netbooks and Ultrabooks need to merge to create the new generation of Netbooks. a 7-10" ultrabook would sell well, whereas a netbook with a faster processor is just an under-powered small laptop. The real trick for netbooks will be to pack in more RAM and 64 bit processors. I can handle slow CPUs with enough ram and a denser display. The old 2GB cap isn't sufficient for a modern netbook OS to handle what it needs to. Large amounts of user data cached for quick access and reliable, quick access to corporate or enterprise systems on the go.

Nothing beats a netbook for sshing into various systems from admin ports or while on the go, but unfortunately, the tiny displays don't pack enough room to comfortably perform many adminsitrative tasks. All this considered, a netbook is still an essential companion to the modern admin.

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jonnyohio

I have a tablet and a notebook computer that has a dedicated graphics card and cost me $600, besides my desktop....so yeah I have no use for a NetBoot unless they can sell me one with good specs for $200 but even then what would I use it for?

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Neufeldt2002

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Baer

To me Tablets and Notebooks both have their place. Perhaps as tablets get more powerful and become able to actually do more work they will blend. Ultrabooks seem to be a great device for those of us that want more than a display device (tablets), a very convenient and useful display device admittedly.
Netbooks on the other hand always seemed to be the device that just did nothing well at a low value for your money.

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Eoraptor

I know exactly one person who carries a netbook (it IS a toshiba though) and she carries it because it was a gift and she couldn't have afforded a laptop on her own. yeah, when you can buy a fully functional laptop for $500 or less, who wants a tiny little netbook with half the power at roughly the same price?

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Scatter

Gee, you mean that people don't want a lighter notebook with half the power and features at the same price? I'm shocked. But hey, this is why CEOs are paid the big bucks, to amazing observations like this.

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JohnP

Anyone see the similarities of Netbooks and tablets? Anyone?

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vrmlbasic

No, I'm not seeing too many. Despite being underpowered (thx Intel), the netbook can still run practically any Windows application, something that no Android or iOS tablet can claim to do.

Netbooks have off-screen keyboards which are vastly superior to an on-screen keyboard for data entry. I understand that it is possible to lug around a bluetooth keyboard for tablets, but that kills the portability and convenience that they offer, as I see it.

The netbook also conveniently folds to protect its screen so I can just throw it into my travel bag with abandon whereas I'd be paranoid about being so callous with my tablet screen. I've seen cracked iPhone screens, Gorilla Glass has its limits and I don't want to find them.

I'd have much use for a small form-factor notebook that can actually hold its own in computing power. Preferably with no major hardware from Intel inside as it'll take a long time for me to be able to trust them in the mobile market. Atom was a crime against humanity.

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Blues22475

In a sense I do. I've also heard that tablets are also outselling netbooks in general anyway so it's no surprise.

To me both were designed "lightweight" do help you preform everyday tasks (netbooks more so work and light task while tablets surfing the internet and doing other daily tasks that does not require too much power).

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GenMasterB

Actually John, I dont. Both Intel and Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with Netbooks and their enforced specifications. IF the netbooks weren't castrated notebooks, they'd have had a good market. The netbooks specs alone kept it from catching on. Who really wants an underpowered 1.6mhz single core crap cpu like the Atom? I cannot believe in this day and age politics can play in to a PC's power. Think about this. That ASUS transformer which is not locked by Intel & M$'s rules, have what you "could" classify as a netbook (10.1 screen, folding keyboard, etc), that thing would dance circles around any new netbook on the market. I truly think the tablet market is thriving BECAUSE the netbook was unpowered out of the gate and we truly do want something micro yet powerful under our arm when we travel. Anyone on that?? BTW, I have both a netbook and a asus transformer, the netbook collects dust and I only use it when I require a Win7 or Linux solution, if not... it's the ASUS..

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maxeeemum

Yep! I've said this before tablets are the new netbooks. A new toy for the gadget crowd. I'm already seeing people selling their tablets at work saying between their smart phone and home PC they really don't use it much.

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maxeeemum

I agree if I travelled a lot I'd buy one. As for me PCs at home, PC at work and a laptop for occasional travel & other stuff.

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kixofmyg0t

Well, since I use my tablet more than a traditional "PC"...(In fact I havnt posted or visited MaximumPC on a "PC" in over a year and a half) and now my friends are getting tablets instead of traditional "PC's"(one of which was a iPhone/Mac only user....who now enjoys his Tegra3 powered Transformer Prime) I'd say no.

Ohh wait I see what you're trying to troll. You meant to imply that tablets are complete fail and nobody wants and/or buys them. Silly me. You are absolutely right. Nobody bought the iPad, nobody bought the Kindle Fire, Asus doesn't have the best selling line of Android tablets next to the Kindle Fire. You're right. Mmhmm.

Just wait my friend, by the end of the year you'll be singing a different tune. Tablets with Intel CPU's will hit market and you-being the Intel/nVidia fanboy you are-will buy 4 or 5 of them and be praising how much faster they are than any AMD powered traditional "PC". Combine that with nVidia's Kepler(ZOMGBBQ I said "Kepler" are you excited!?!) based cloud scheme and you'll be in heaven. In fact I'm gonna buy stock in Lubriderm and Kleenex before Intel based tablets hit market just because I know how excited you are about anything containing the words "Intel" and "Kepler".

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steven4570

you should be banned from the internet so this career of trolling can stop

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Neufeldt2002

The only troll here is you. Normally I ignore your comments about John, but it is getting sickening. He was excited about building his dream machines, a once in a lifetime upgrade for his family, get off his back already. The reason he posted that info here is because this is a forum of like minded people who are enthusiastic about computers. Everyone has their favorite parts or brand names. John has even said when AMD catches up to Intel and nVidia he would give credit where credit is due. Quit looking for a fight and move on already.

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kixofmyg0t

Its not a "once in a lifetime upgrade" when he spends literally thousands of dollars a month doing it. He brags ALL THE TIME about whatever new Intel/nVidia gadget he just bought.

He doesn't like or believe in tablets, that's fine. But I sincerely believe the core reason behind that is because no tablet currently has a Intel based SoC. I wholeheartedly believe that when a tablet is released with Intel silicon he will be shouting from the highest rooftops about how great it is and how no AMD or ARM based rig(tablet or PC) could ever possible compete.

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tekknyne

LOL Nerd rage much? I might know a couple of girls who will help you out with that, but with your personality, it would be a really expensive night.

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kixofmyg0t

I'm gonna take a page straight out of JohnP's Playbook and brag about how much money I have.

Oh do you? Well I get paid with tax dollars so please call them up! After all YOU'RE paying for it in the end!

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steven4570

why don't you rip a page out of Houdini's play book and disappear

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