Tick, Tick, Tick...Burn Your DRMed Walmart.com Music to Audio CD Before It's Too Late



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I get around the DRM dungheap by just buying the music I want to listen to and keep it forever. I've got something around 400 cds and another 200 vinyl albums that are copied to my hard drive for pc jukebox duty or mp3 player duty. I like to show my appreciation for the artists and musicians that make the music I enjoy by not ripping them off. Of course, most music today obviously isn't good enough to respect, so...


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The Relic

What do I do? Pretty much the same thing: buy my own cds and rip 'em for a backup or my player. I also buy vinyl or cassettes (often less than a buck, usually 50 cents) at thrifts or record stores, and convert them on my computer. If they need cleaning, Audacity handles that chore nicely. I have about 200 or so records and at least as many cassettes (even have several 8 tracks ^_^). Let the record companies keep their DRM.



Is there any reason why Walmart (and any other company in a smiliar situation) couldn't write a small program that you could download that would examine the music you purchased, contact the DRM server to confirm you actually own it, and then remove the DRM from the file (or convert it to MP3) so that it was free for you to use forever (or at least until your hard drive crashes)?

That seems like a much better solution than simply screwing over your customers... 


Keith E. Whisman

Well I'm almost certain that when people purchased and downloaded their music they had to accept a license agreement. This agreement must have warned them of the limitations of the DRM and they understood this and accepted the agreement by clicking on accept and giving Wally world their money.

The best thing they can do now is make audio cd's with their DRM'ed MP3 files and then rip the cd's back to DRM free MP3's. There is software that turns the music into DRM free MP3's but it's done in real time and takes alot longer. At least if you make Audio CD's you'll have all your music backed up.

I wouldn't download mp3's from a store anyhow. There is alot of free stuff out there and Cheaper Album CD's that you can buy on the internet that allows you to make lossless or 320bit mp3's with.


Keith E. Whisman

I get my music the old fashioned way. I get it through bittorrent. Demonoid.com and thepiratebay.org

I had a cd collection of almost 600albums and they were all stolen in my old apartment so I've been replacing them through bittorrent. I don't have the money to actually repurchase all my albums not with a third baby a boy due on December 8th.



why not just let users redownload DRM free music?



 I have to basically agree with ilander, pyrophorics, & theplustwo.  After all these years of being able to download music, I downloaded my first 3 albums a month ago. Should I hang my head in shame? Hell No! I am proud of the fact that I only rip from those I can 'hold in my own two little hands' or have not been able to locate elsewhere.  I searched & searched for years but could not find these 3 albums. These same 3 comedy albums suddenly appeared on Amazon.com. It cost me all of $6 and change. After downloading, I quickly ripped them in reverse into .wav's, then burned them to cd. If I ever find the albums on cd, I will buy them: the sound is SO much better, the artwork and, maybe, lyrics & band info are there, AND, the artist (& the music companies) deserve to be compensated. If the artists can not pay their rent, then they move on to other careers. If the music machine goes out of business, then who puts on the live music concerts, who promotes the artists, and who puts the music on cd?  Not that I L-o-v-e the Music Machine, but that's what we have! If they would put the cds on the web to download in a lossless format like .flac AND put all the booklet pages in Std Def or High Def along with the music, then I would buy them to dowload and print.  Face it. The music machine is out of date (cds are 27 years old!). And is bleeding money and talent.....We need a better system than we have today!  We deserve a better system!

Some times I remember;
Some times I don't.



I still buy CD's whenever I can unless I am just grabbing a single song for a specific purpose.

Just as a reminder, if you use iTunes, make sure you have your default import format as MP3.



You should buy physical media.  Really.


That said, I also like the Radiotracker service, if you don't demand CD quality (for instance, if you just want the "hit song").



I am probably one of very few that can say this but I stopped buying and downloading music a couple years back. It started about the time Napster was taken down (before they came back up and started charging). Since then, I MIGHT buy a song officially if it's something I really like but truthfully I haven't purchased anything in over 2 years.

Personally, it's just a waste of time (for me). I am never in a situation anymore where I can listen to a portable device and just listen to the default music for games.

I am in a situation where I don't want to be downloading illegally and I don't want to be robbed by the downloading legally. The prices are absurd, especially with our economy in the state it's in ... I have better things to spend my money on than funding some music artists $5 million dollar mansion or some record execs $5 million dollor mansion x10.




I still buy CDs and rip them myself as well. Hard drives fail, MP3 players get lost or stolen, but as long as you own a physical copy of your stuff then you know you can always re-rip it into any format you choose. Also, I prefer to listen to albums and not just purchase "the hit" by a given band. Plus, I like being able to hold a physical object when I make a purchase.



CDs scratch and break as well.  For me more frequently than hard drives crash or MP3 players get stolen. It doesn't matter what its on as long as you have a seperate physical back up on something, another hard drive MP3 player or other

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