TDK Touts 1TB Optical Disc

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Tazerenix

http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49953-researchers-develop-25tb-titanium-oxide-disc There are more interesting developments than this. I'd prefer this 25tb Titanium Oxide disk if i'm going to need to get a new disk reader.

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kiaghi7

To this day, DVD-R DL disks are preposterously overpriced, and woefully inadequate to even many modest games and are quickly becoming passe as CD's did not that long ago. Let's not even get started on BD-R's and their asinine pricepoint that is keeping them out of the mix, and will continue to keep them there, until their ultimate obsolescence which is going to occur in about 3... 2... 1...

The price point is imbecilic because demand for bulk storage is going quickly to (relatively) cheap external drives which can store far more for what just a small spindle of DL media would cost. Yes it's a mechanical drive, but if one stores it on a shelf all by its lonesome it's profoundly safe. Sure there is always "what if", but "what if" an asteroid falls from space, crashes through your roof, and only hits your optical media shelf, obliterating them? If we're going to play the eternal "what if" game, then it is only fair to play it with equally high and equally unlikely stakes for both sides.

Certainly optical media is inherently more stable for archive purposes, but it's also inherently slower, more expensive for the space provided, very arguably "physically delicate". Let's really be honest here, "archive" of anything isn't going to really be forever by a long shot anyway, we're talking 10 years to -MAYBE- 15 years before a standard/media is utterly obsolete to the point that you'd actually have a fairly difficult time modernizing it because of its antiquity, either by being so old it's hard to adapt or by being so cumbersome (number of disks, and their ludicrously slow interface, among other issues) that porting them to a modern media is almost worse than losing the data in the first place.

 

Just think of moving data from -then- top of the line 3.5" floppys to CD, which themselves are now considered pathetically small to be kind, but at least they are still common. The 3.5" drive isn't impossible to find, but that 1.44MB of data is going to become VERY aggrevating after you've gone through your zillionth case of floppies to move antiquated files full of antiquated data from antiquated programs full of antiquated issues you might not even have the ability to compensate for now because of their age and now utter lack of support for.

 

 

It's simply a matter of reality that multi-layer media is more difficult to make and thus more expensive to produce/purchase. As to these specific disks, it's a heck of a lot better than the BR debacle, but until they get 1TB on 1 layer, don't waste my time. It's not that it isn't a lot of data, but the write speeds alone would be atrocious leading to burn times in the many hours (if not DAYS) range, and if you have 16 layers to do that across, getting ever slower as you go, count me out because I'm simply not going to waste my time on a SINGLE DISK that would likely cost $30-40 for 1TB when I could run by the local electronics store (maybe even Walmart for pete's sake!) and get a 1TB external drive for $75 which is rewritable far more than any RW disk out there many times over, costs less than a 25 disk spindle of blueray disks (SINGLE LAYER) while being rewritable, and more useful, and simply easier to "access".

 

This isn't to say optical media doesn't have its uses, but the uses are diminishing rapidly, and frankly I forsee hot-swappable HDD's (or SSD's) quickly becoming the removable media (not for things like packaged games obviously) of the future because frankly optical media can't come close to the storage needs of what's already becoming mainstream and their speeds are archaic to be kind. My friends and I have long since moved to that point of reverting to what used to be called "Sneaker Net", but now it's with HDD's since we can move tremendous amounts of data from one to another with nothing more than a hand-off and no bandwidth limitations obviously :D

 

These disks show modest promise for an area of format that isn't really used for any prominent media, and only proves itself modestly capable at storage, for which almost certainly cheaper and more abundant alternatives have saturated the market. If the goal was to paint themselves into a corner of being unnecessary, the goal was roundly accomplished.

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TechLarry

With hard drives down to $60 for a Terabyte drive, these things will have to be cheap as hell.

Figure maybe $200 for the drive, and maybe $25 per blank.

And even those prices will be under serious pressure in no time at all.

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Thundercracker

I stopped caring about optical discs years ago. They are waaaay too slow compared to external disk drives and thumb drives. The last two PCs i've built don't even have optical disc drives and i haven't missed them once.

If Blue Ray hadn't taken 10 damn years to come out then maybe optical disc tech would be better than it is right now. 1TB discs is too little, too late at this point (and it isn't even available yet).

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Blues22475

...isn't going to make me think anything better about Optical media considering External drives and other forums of media are out there in high capacity.

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Airheadq

This is appealing to people looking for archival/permanent storage. Have raw footage or something that you can store away and still have an un-touched copy of, discs will do the job.

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TechLarry

Now try buying a drive to read your archived data with :)

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jgrimoldy

Try finding a 600MB SCSI Magneto Optical drive or a 1GB WORM drive!

Even more recently, I have quite a number of 8GB DAT tapes with archived video projects on them.  I shudder thinking about the time involved to bump them up to a more contemporary medium. UGH!

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lostcause64

Over dependance on external drives or flash drives assumes one thing - what happens when a drive bites the dust for whatever reason? No matter what, an external HD or flash drive is still an electrical/mechanical device that can decide crap out on you without warning. For things that I just can't lose, like photos of my son/grandkids, I'll burn them to disk, thank you very much.

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Blues22475

But by no means are optical disks failure proof. Direct sunlight exposure for too long, too many scratches so the media isn't readable anymore, optical drives being retarded and not wanting to read them (though this is the optical drive itself).

Also, with the emergence of SSD's (granted they're pricey now but that's besdies the point) which the failure rate is much less compared to actual drives with mechanical parts (and an increase of performance as well).

Though all that is somewhat irrelevant somewhat as each person has his or her own needs as the first person said. I'll take a thumb drive (technically it's SSD) over a CD (regardless of size) any day.

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