Subsidized Xbox 360 with Kinect to Run $99 with a Two Year Service Agreement

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Swarley330

Bottom line, Xbox exists to make money. I'm pretty sure everyone here has either built a PC or has figured out how to overclock one out of the box. This means you possess a dramatically greater degree of intelligence than the rest of America (if you don't believe me go to Wal-Mart on a weekend.) Those of lesser intelligence and lesser income are prone to grasping the instant gratification of getting an Xbox for less than a hundred bucks. Those of us who have the restraint to not buy an xbox for $99 dollars can probably also deduce that the time value of the money you hang on to when you acquire the console is less than the increased cost over time (unless your investment banker is Bernie Madoff.) So hats off to Microsoft for implementing a cunning new business model that will have ramifications on the gaming industry for years to come. Stop fighting the "Man," join us, our side pays better. Mwahhhahahahaha

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Engelsstaub

Ah the good old "you're stupid if you don't agree with me on 'super-important' product decisions" thing that's all the internet rage. Does that help your self-esteem?

Ever stop to think that that "computer-stupid, Mac-using, console-buyer, whatever-thatdoesn'tthinkexactlylikeyou" may just be the doctor who's going to save your PC-gaming life some day? (Unless of course you're some punk kid who's immortal and immune to the real problems the rest of us face in the Really Real Life.)

Sounds like you're on a higher horse than you said Hilarity was on.

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Hilarity

Consoles are a joke. They barely run at 480p, are utterly ugly with every single option running at ultra low, boxy linear levels, and ridiculously poor draw distances and pop in.

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Swarley330

Hey, wanna go dig up Secretariat and give him a few more whacks just for good measure. Duh consoles are inferior to PC's they have to mass market a computer in a box that can never be upgraded that has to be affordable to the general public. Some of us were forced to grow up as "Console-tards" until we had the money to build a gaming PC. Just give it a rest man, that song and dance is more played out than a LMFAO song on the radio. You are on MaximumPC.com, everyone here has a sweet gaming PC, do everyone a favor and take a shower because you smell worse than that high horse you are riding on.

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jaygregz

I believe the reason they are doing this is to test the model on a gaming console before their next model comes out. This is because the next Microsoft gaming console is going to cost so much money that most people would not buy it ordinarily because they wouldn't be able to afford it. Instead they are going to finance and subsidize the next console. It's an extraordinary way of insuring their next console sells.

Also for the guys discussing if or not xbox live is a rip-off. Of course it is. So is everything else in this world. If you do however find yourself in the position where you need to pay for xbox live I do suggest finding 3 people to go in on a family plan with. 4 Xbox live accounts for $100. That's 25 dollars per person per year.

We need to make a geek thread about saving money... I have about 100 different ways I save money on different subscriptions and services. Most of them actually legal too!

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vrmlbasic

The Xbox is still the "Second Coming" of the Dreamcast (at least, that's how I always thought of it, and SEGA tried this same tactic to sell the Dreamcast, though I don't think that SEGA forced buyers into 2 years of SEGANet, which was a financial error.

Hopefully, with M$'s money and 10+ years of internet development, this will continue to succeed.

This isn't the worst deal ever, as MPC writes the cost isn't much greater now than it would be if you were to buy the components separately, and as even the haters on this comments section admit, the 360 is rather incomplete without Xbox Live Gold.

I wonder if they would allow us to buy a "720" unsubsidized as well?

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Engelsstaub

That's a pretty good theory.

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bling581

I can just see it now. You sign up for a 2 year agreement and then they announce that sometime next year they're releasing the next Xbox console. If they don't, well that's already terrible because that's 2 more years of already outdated hardware you are stuck with.

This is going to sucker in some people but why not just put aside $15-20 bucks until you can afford it upfront? Is the gold service really worth the extra you're paying for the console?

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eastbayrae

This is so wrong.

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kristie

Not really, it's the same as when you buy a house on mortgage, taking out a loan, or go shopping with a credit card; you have the option of either paying $420 at once vs. $100 down and monthly installments for the rest over two years. Every time you pay over a period of time you're going to pay more from interest/fees/etc. and the $40 premium for the financing option is no different.

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big_montana

What everyone is forgetting is that the subsidized Xbox comes with a 2 year warranty versus the standard 1 year warranty you get if you pay full price. So factor in the extra cost for one more year of warranty coverage, and the cost is actually the same.

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Engelsstaub

I bought an XBox 360 about 3 weeks after it launched. One thing that burns my ass is the fact that MS keeps taking, little by little, functionality from Silver members to force them to subscribe to Gold. There is SO much advertisement on the XB dashboard that it's excruciatingly obnoxious to sift through. This is aggravated by the fact that some of it isn't even related to gaming or other functions of the 360 or XBox Live. So basically Microsoft is making a killing off of us dopes by not only charging us for a premium membership, but raking in big money off of ads that we must also suffer.

I suppose they could finally be able to seriously discount the console now that they're not eating the cost of their RRoD BS so much anymore. Took them like five years to fix that. I'm on my seventh console since launch. If I had had to pay for more than one I'd be pretty stupid indeed.

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big_montana

Like you I purchase my Xbox a bout a month after launch, and am only on my second one. I bought a new one when they released one with HDMI, and still have the original one as well which still works to this day and never suffered from rrod issue (just lucky I guess). Instead of complaining about your stripped down Silver membership (which is subsidized by us Gold member) purchase a Gold membership online for around 25 to 35, or quit complaining.

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Engelsstaub

Subsidized by the shitload of irrelevant advertisement.

...and I am usually a Gold member. That would actually be none of your concern what I freely do and do not pay for. Congratulations on your pleasant experiences that differ from mine (and an industry standard- shattering amount of people with RRoD problems.) I'm sure they appreciate your "loyalty."

I like complaining. Probably just continue to do so, thx.

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torusya

so what you are saying is just give Microsoft your money ($25 or $35 or whatever) for the privilege to do what other console's let you do for free? not a very valid point, is it?

I think, he has a very valid point about advertising and subscription... xbox should be free a this point, or at lease not have any subscription. I can only assume that everyone is so brainwashed nowadays. Even as simple as home cable, they charge you $60-$100 dollars so that you can watch ADs... i mean, seriously... i pay to watch ads? and the worst part is that everyone thinks that it is OK

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big_montana

Other consoles do not have the feature set that the 360 does nor do they have the content. Ever try online gaming on the PSN? It plain sucks compared to Live, and forget about the Wii for online gaming. Also most people do not use their 360's for online gaming now, they use it as media extenders/HTPC's, and if the monthly sub includes Hulu and Netflix access then it is worth the price.

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Swarley330

I second big_montana, the paltry subscription fee of (if you just renew over xbox live) 5 bucks a month is more than worth the ease of use and support that LIVE provides over the PSN. The centralization of the console online platform is a decided edge that xbox holds over other system, honestly who the hell ever remembered their Konami username and password for Metal Gear Solid 4. Its a console, its my "I don't care what the graphics look like and I would rather just use a gamepad" gaming machine. I don't want to have to jump through hoops to join my friends for a CoD or Halo match. You knew what you signed on for when you bought an xbox, a gold subscription costs less than a bag of beef jerky (mmmm... delicious,) so stop complaining and give the "Man" your money.

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drummingasm

I don't have online gaming problems with PSN. Also, the PS3 internet browser sucks, but doesn't xbox not have one?

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limitbreaker

Boo

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