Strange Saga Continues: John McAfee's Island Home Burns to the Ground

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Paul_Lilly

Well now, it seems I stirred up quite the hornet's nest, which certainly was not my intent. To anyone who was offended by my comment (and it seems like there were quite a few), I truly apologize. It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, not a statement of political leaning in one direction or the other.

In an attempt to add a bit of flair to news posts, sometimes things are written that, on hindsight, should have been nixed so as not to unnecessarily detract from the topic, or even worse, incite negative emotions. That's never the goal, and I'm sorry it happened in this instance.

Now, for the peace offering. Here's a video a golden retriever that really loves guitar:

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kevina0000

I subscribe to the magazine and have enjoyed it for years. I read it and the website for the tech articles, not for the political bickering.

Every time one of these snarky comments shows up in the magazine or on the website (which seems to be happening with increasing frequency) I pause to ask myself, why am I paying for a subscription again?

My renewal is coming up and I am seriously considering dropping it. There are just too many free sources for this info to justify paying for such juvenile behavior.

Paul, you are a great writer, you are better than this. Be considerate of your audience, quit throwing barbs and isolating half of your readership.

You owe EVERYONE who reads this site an apology for taking yet another article and dragging it through the political mud.

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The Mac

lulz..

looks like Paul removed the strange foxnews comment...

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strangelove9

For what it's worth, the notion that the U.S. media is a bastion of liberalism has been debunked repeatedly.

http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/LiberalMedia.htm
http://media.eriposte.com/myth.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/CBS-explodes-liberal-media-bias-myth-N-Y-Times-2722330.php
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Myth-of-Liberal-Media-by-Larry-Butler-130428-804.html
http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=114

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MaximumMike

I found this on one of the biased liberal websites you linked to above. You really should keep your liberal lies to yourself.

"Since the mainstream media is irredeemably corrupt, liberals need to have their own communications infrastructure. The dominant medium in the United States is television, so to communicate effectively the progressive cause requires a national TV network that unapologetically presents each day’s events from the liberal perspective. The narratives must be kept simple and feature good guys versus bad guys because for most Americans nuance is a foreign language.

It is imperative that the network resist the liberal compulsion to value fairness over effectiveness. "

Yes, these are the words of the liberal liars who have "SUPPOSEDLY" debunked the liberal media myth. I don't need to read finely crafted lies in the name of fairness to know what's going on. I simply turn on the TV and watch. There's nothing you can say is happening on Fox that isn't even worse on MSNBC or CNN. Sure, I'll admit Fox is biased to the right. But CNN and MSNBC are even more so biased to the left. I know because I see them both all day long at work. You can spread whatever lies you like, but my eyes know what they see every day. The only people trash articles like the ones you linked to appeal to are the ones who want to ease their own consciences because deep down they know their beliefs are based on ignorance and bias.

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limitbreaker

Funny but I get the opposite feeling than you. Seems to me that whenever an organization or person has a neutral and politically correct view that there are people like yourself who automatically paint them as biased towards the left. I suppose it's only natural if the view on the right is based on ignorance and complete disregard for facts. It's no surprise that the majority of right wingers are bible thumpers, if you can convince your self of the lies in a religion then you can convince your self of almost anything regardless of the truth.

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MaximumMike

>>Seems to me that whenever an organization or person has a neutral and politically correct view that there are people like yourself who automatically paint them as biased towards the left.

Yea, but this is hardly about feelings, unless of course you're an irrational liberal with little less to go on. And which "organization or person" would you be referring to, by the way? Hopefully not makethemaccountable.com. Sites that propagate pushing an agenda at virtually any cost can hardly be considered neutral. Furthermore, "politically correct" is anything but a neutral stance. It seems to me that liberals like yourself seem to have a big problem saying much of anything that follows any logical progression of ideas. Instead, you try to mask your inferior thought process behind labels you like to project onto others, i.e., "bible thumpers" and "right wingers".

But what if one of you liberal morons actually took the time read and understand the argument you were disagreeing with? You might find, in this case for instance, that I actually quoted from the website I had a problem with. That particular website advocated forcefully promoting the liberal agenda at whatever cost. It can hardly be considered a "neutral" organization.

I can only conclude that either 'A' you did read the quote and you knew this and made your snarky comment anyway, or that 'B' you were too lazy to actually read the quote from the website and just popped off whatever retarded liberal drivel came to your mind, "based on ignorance and complete disregard for facts." Either way, people like you mange to paint themselves as illiterate slime with little to no help from people like me.

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DJ_Smoke

"Instead, you try to mask your inferior thought process behind labels you like to project onto others, i.e., "bible thumpers" and "right wingers".

But what if one of you liberal morons"

I freaking LOVE that Mike waited exactly 7 words to start name calling right back.... talk about hypocrisy

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MaximumMike

The fact that you failed to appreciate the subtle intricacies of what I did there doesn't make me a hypocrite.

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limitbreaker

You're awfully convoluted aren't you Mr. Mike? Twisting and turning what I've said doesn't change anything. I didn't bother checking out those links because they're irrelevant to me and to the message I tried to convey. If you've got anything else to pull out of your you know what go right ahead but you should know that I don't give much thought to meager insults so don't waste your time.

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MaximumMike

>> you should know that I don't give much thought to meager insults so don't waste your time.

I would agree with that. You certainly put little thought into the ones you hurled at me, and even less into the actual substance of what you were trying to say. You also just admitted that you couldn't be bothered to actually read what we were talking about before insulting me. Then you go on to say that the links were irrelevant to what you were trying to say. Unfortunately, what was on those sites you didn't bother to look at (or even the quote I provided that you couldn't be bothered to read when it was right in front of your face) was entirely relevant to whether or not those sites were leftist in their nature. But if the meat of what you were trying to say wasn't in essence that I was ignorantly labeling a neutral site as a liberal one, there isn't much left but your slurs of conservatives and Christians. And those were poorly crafted hate-mongering. What a profound message you were trying to convey there. I'm not twisting much of anything, but just pointing out that you are being intellectually dishonest. If you stop doing it, I'll stop calling you out on it.

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limitbreaker

That's an excellent defense mechanism, by being convoluted you can further your self from the main idea while nitpicking on irrelevant things that'll put me on the defensive.

Slurs against Christians? it's a fact that Christianity or any other Religion for that matter is a lie. If you haven't found that out on your own then I don't expect a few paragraph of explanation will change anything even if it did matter to me whether you become enlightened or not.

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MaximumMike

>>That's an excellent defense mechanism

But I'm not on the defensive. I've been on the attack since the first few syllables of the illiterate madness you pass off as thoughts manifested on your keyboard and made their way into a post.

>>by being convoluted

I'm sorry that you find a logical progression of ideas to be convoluted. But considering you're the sort who's too lazy to even find out what the topic is before jumping in with both feet and making an ass of himself, I'm not really surprised that rational logic befuddles you.

>>you can further your self from the main idea

Main idea? What is the main idea? You keep talking about this idea you have but you've yet to state what that is. I'm not even sure you know what it is. I think you like the notion that there's some ethereal, yet superior, idea you have that everyone is ignoring. And as long as you don't say what it is you can keep pointing to it and ignoring valid criticisms of the things you actually did say.

>>while nitpicking on irrelevant things

You said very little and I picked on all of it. So, if it was irrelevant, then why did you say it? And if there's some other more relevant thought that you have then why don't you try stating that one?

>>that'll put me on the defensive.

Thus far you have only done two things, make a false accusation about my original post (which I thoroughly refuted) and slander what you perceive to be my religion and political affiliation. If you're not willing to defend your ridiculous stance and your asinine behavior, then maybe you should stop posting. But if you're going to post your idiotic thoughts on the internet for the entire world to see, you should be prepared to defend them. I didn't put you on the defensive, you put yourself there.

>>Slurs against Christians? it's a fact that Christianity or any other Religion for that matter is a lie.

Let's start with the ignorant part, and then we'll move to the part of this that makes you a waste of perfectly good oxygen.

Facts are those things which are provable. For instance, the fact that water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen has been proven may times over, and is an indisputable fact. But every fact starts somewhere, with a hypothesis, belief, or observation. Then it must be investigated, tested, verified, and ultimately proven before it can be called a fact.

Unfortunately for you, both the existence of any type of God and the veracity of Christianity are still being debated and investigated by minds which are many times more bright than yours. The existence of God is a cosmic question of inconceivable complexity. It's more complex than creating a machine that can solve NP-complete problems; it's harder than solving string theory; it's more unfathomable than moving faster than the speed of light.

Now, I for one believe that travel at faster than the speed of light is possible. But that is simply a belief because I couldn't even begin to describe (let alone prove) how such travel might be acheived. But my understanding of mathematics and science (limited as it may be) leads me to believe that we will one day figure out how to do it. But I would certainly never suggest to anyone that this belief is a fact.

Yet, you posit that you have the answer to a complex question that the best scientific minds on our planet cannot solve. And you posit, here on MaximumPC of all places, that you provably know that answer to be true. And you refuse to share that proof with us, even after acknowledging your tendency to talk about things you can't be bothered to research. You are either the most brilliant jackass on the planet or a juvenile, empty-headed narcissist.

But lets return to reality for a moment. Your so-called fact can be nothing more than a belief. Even more unfortunately for you is the fact that you feel you're too good and self-important to educate yourself on the things you like to talk about. So, for you, it is a very poorly founded belief, while for others who share your opinion it is a very rational and well founded belief. But that doesn't mean that you can somehow equate yourself with those who are many times your intellectual superior, just because you share their opinion.

Now lets move on to what makes you pretty much worthless. You have an ill-founded belief that you're too lazy to investigate for yourself. But you're so arrogant and conceited that you elevate yourself in your own mind to be above scholars who have dedicated their entire lives to studying a position contrary to your flimsy beliefs. And because you have put yourself up on this pedestal where you can look down on all these other people, you have no qualms about blindly insulting them for believing something that millions upon millions of people have dedicated centuries to understanding. And you dismiss, with no explanation whatsoever, an unfathomable volume of literature and expertise that has been produced over those centuries. And you stand up on your pedestal and mock anyone who would dare disagree with you- the lazy illiterate fool who likes to, as Engelsstaub put it, "talk out of his ass".

You insult those you disagree with. I respect many who I disagree with, but I insult you because I can't respect you- because I find people who revel in their ignorance and insist on spreading it to the rest of the world to be a cancer to society and an impediment to intellectual progress. I insult you because I don't value the way you think.

>>. If you haven't found that out on your own then I don't expect a few paragraph of explanation will change anything

While I am certain that a few paragraphs on the subject would be a monumental task for yourself, you are correct that it would do very little to convince me of anything. I've already read a few paragraphs of yours and have been able to make little of it other than befuddled hate-mongering. No thanks.

>>even if it did matter to me whether you become enlightened or not.

Enlightened? If I were to come to hold your beliefs, I would be anything but enlightened. I would have forget all useful facts and fill my brain with nonsense. I'd have to adopt a ton of unfounded, contradictory beliefs to tie my brain in knots with. And then I'd have to forgo my inquisitive nature for an unwavering resolve to never investigate anything I believe. I would have to become utterly stupefied. And in the midst of all that, I'd have to grow my already enormous ego to one the size of yours.

If you're seriously considering restraining from saying anything that might cause me to come to think the way you do, I would strongly encourage you to go with that thought.

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limitbreaker

Hahaha that was very entertaining! The reason that I don't bother giving you long stretched out arguments is that I understand the redundancy of it and as you've stated; you've been on the offensive from the start which by the way is a form of defence. You're not going to change your mind whether I'm right or not. As the saying goes.... When arguing with fools, don't answer their foolish arguments, or you will become as foolish as they are.

I never said that God doesn't exist because I'm an agnostic in nature and to claim such a thing however likely it is that it would be pure speculation. I did say that religion is a lie and that much we know as a fact.
I agree with you that our understanding of our universe and possibly beyond is very limited as a race. But be that as it may, we know for a fact that intelligent design is wrong and neither of the most popular religions on earth have any shred of evidence to back them up and can't even be accepted as a wild theory.

If you want to educate your self on reality there are a few books I can recommend however unlikely that you would pick any of them up. There is one that I found to be a really great read by Richard Dawkins called "The God Delusion“. The author is a scientist with a PHD in biology, he only uses facts and uses sarcasm and humour making it a very enjoyable read.

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The Mac

You do realize the Bush jr was elected twice?

I take no offence, my comment wasnt really about content....

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limitbreaker

Yeah that's what made it kind of sad actually :-/

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nlncmp

The jab at Foxnews is sophomoric, off-topic and detracts from the story. Further, I strongly question the wisdom and professionalism of MaxPC in unnecessarily alienating a large percentage of your subscriber base in a forum and topic which are largely a-political.

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dmonkyking

+1

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jako800

I just cant escape politics, even on tech sites! :(
But come on..... you have got to admit that there are many liberal news sources(MSNBC, CNN and NBC to name a few). A non-liberal source(Fox)to help balance it out somewhat, is a good thing. At least I think it is.

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The Mac

Personally, i think we need a few more...

the Media in general is a bit too liberal, it needs some balancing...

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limitbreaker

Maybe you need a few more, I just think Fox is really bad. Not because they're right wing supporters but because they're just bad. Maybe if the US had a few news stations that didn't make a complete mockery of them selves then republicans wouldn't end up with dumb presidents like Bush who was the laughing stock of the entire world.
I really don't mean any offence and I hope you can see that.

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btdog

Good job, Lilly. Managed to piss off half your audience. Again.

As I've stated numerous times before - let's talk tech; I get enough political blather everywhere else in my life.

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paschal

Paul, if you want to report on nut jobs in the computer industry, that is fine, it's news. However, your blatant political bias has no place here. At a time when printed media has to fight to get and keep paying customers, such comments are a sure-fire method of running many of them off. Even if suits at Future may privately agree with your views, I doubt seriously they would think your cheap shot venom spouting on their web site is an enhancement to increasing the subscriber base. It does not matter to me if you are taking shots at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC or whomever, this is not the place for it.

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myh1tlist101

ABC news and BBC has been treating me a lot better than Foxnews or MSNBC. No point in arguing over it just watch the news channels that aren't as bad.

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limitbreaker

I agree, I personally like CBC news (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) and BBC for international news. They seem to be very well balanced and contain a lot less hypocrisy and lies than the two you mentioned (specially fox).

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vrmlbasic

"don't hate, this guy's bizarre circumstances screams FoxNews, does it not?"

Firstly, I'm not sure that this sentence, from the article, is grammatically correct. Secondly, what does it even _mean_?

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The Mac

i don't see it in the foxnews article, nor do i see any bias in the original article either.

Im not sure where thats coming from; it doesnt make any sense to me either.

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someuid

John McAfee is an idiot. I bet he had the place torched just to stilt whoever was about to buy the property and give John grounds for not only the insurance money but a basis for lawsuits.

Fox News. If there was ever a place I'd support the government in trampling free speech and freedom of the press, it would be with them.

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MaximumMike

Yea, And I'd be next in line to support their trampling all over your right to say whatever idiotic crap comes to your mind. The hypocrisy of you liberals is astounding.

Thanks for another piece of trash article Paul.

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The Mac

+1, although im not sure about the article being trashy..

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limitbreaker

I thought it was obvious to anyone intelligent how bad fox news is, their hypocrisy and lack of regard for facts is among the worst I've ever seen.

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The Mac

I can assure you i am intelligent.

I watch many news stations, including foxnews.

Foxnews is an extremely conservative news station, the other are extremely liberal.

Seems like we need more conservative news channels for a good balance to me.

Pissing you off doesn't make them hypocrites or liars.

All new stations do that.

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limitbreaker

They don't piss me off, infact they provide a great deal of material for Jon Stewart and it's always hilarious. I'm mostly unaffected by the political stuff from Fox, I'm Canadian :-) eh?

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MaximumMike

He could have left out the jab at Fox News and both the article and the comments section would have been worth reading. But we all know that MaxPC periodically feels a need to find a way to incite people's political biases.

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The Mac

enh...

makes for good entertainment on here...

lol

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MaximumMike

Yes, because we all know there's never anything bizarre or outlandish on CNN or MSNBC.

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Xenite

If it was on Fox, I'm sure they said Obama sent Hillary down to torch the place to cover up the IRS scandal.

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vrmlbasic

If they had sent Hillary down to Belize to raze the man's house to distract from political scandal I would think that it would be over Benghazi lol.

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Jim Fox

I HAAAATTTTEEE Fox News. Because ......... Wait, what was this article about again?

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Maximum Defiant

Wonder how much he paid for 2 matches ?

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Mungo

Too bad Faux news shut down their comment section. Their sheeple would have a field day blame this on the President Obama.

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vrmlbasic

Sigh. You do realize that "Faux" isn't pronounced like "Fox", thus invalidating this puerile attempt at word play, right?

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germanogre

I do hate. I hate FoxNews. They suck ass.

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jason2393

Maybe he should start working on a movie deal to raise some money...

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