Steve Jobs Outs Thinner iPhone 4, Just Like Gizmodo Showed

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agartner15

Android=freedom. Iphone=no freedom. Android wins!!!

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JE_Delta

 this phone is supposed to be the future, this is not the future, this is catch-up.

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Zachary K.

cool, will i be able to run my n64 emulator better than the 3Gs?

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Ashton2091

Does Steve know who his competition is?  I mean seriously...Android has been alive and kicking for about a year and is already the best phone OS with frequent updates that actually add REAL features.  Steve is so arrogant that he thinks the iPhone will always be the greatest phone ever.  It may be for the apple lovers who get tricked into loving a phone because of how sleek it is.  All I can say is...I'm not a apple fan...but I actually expected more from those guys.  iPhone owners should be pissed

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Talcum X

 Perhaps because AT&T aint 4G ready yet...  In fact, only Sprint has launched it and Big Red mentioned plans on it's 4G release...but still no go.  I'm sure it will take a few years before it's gained nationwide coverage.  Hell, 3G aint everywhere yet either (on all networks).  I guess there will be a 4GS release when it does happen.  So people can buy yet another phone.  I'm sure someone somehwere will have all versions sitting in a case at their house.

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imagonex

That's all they can come up?! A semi-redesigned partially upgraded touch device with a built-in phone? It's like a car manufacturer adding decals and different options to a car model that's reached its end-of-line life cycle.

What doesn't bode well for Fruit Inc is that the touch-device market is saturated. Next, Android devices are already outselling the iPhone within 5 months. Microsoft will soon release their new portable oriented OS, and many products out there offer more for the money, are open platforms, and offer better flexibility at a lower price than the aforementioned product.

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kjrviking

Am i the only one who actually thinks this device is kinda ugly?

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crazitrain02

With how much I despise Apple and this crap-a$$ phone, you have to respect them for their marketing ideas.  Release a "new" phone every year, charge $499 for it, and only add one item that people want.  Rinse and repeat.

 If you want something that has everything, go out and get yourself a phone with Android on it. 

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Shadai

This is the first phone that is not "magical", whatever that means.  After all, Steve had to ask everyone to turn off their wi-fi for it to work.  And even then it didn't work.  During his own conference.  How embarrassing.  Love it.

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Caboose

And there will be how many Mactard sheeple that will drop their iPhone 3GS to get one of these things? I mean COME ON! It's the best thing since sliced bread and air!

 

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aviaggio

But is it magical?

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popstop785

Is Apple still a controlling corp.? Yeah, I believe so... they still fail.

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kitanis

Ok.. so the new I-Phone is going to be thinner? Big Freaking Deal.. the way AT&T has their data plan configured now.. you will end up paying MORE for the privledge of using this "cool" phone.  

I will stick to my Motorola Droid on Verizon.. its functional, it works.. and so far I have never drained the battery on it during a days use out of it.

 

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MdX MaxX

I've been tuning in to the live feed on phonedog.com, and I've gotta admit, the new iPhone hardware seems pretty kickass.  But the iPhone OS (excuse me, iOS) is still crippled and will never beat Android IMO.

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Peanut Fox

Yeah but the power of an A4 in your phone.....

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gendoikari1

There is no difference between the 3GS, given that the A4 is just the same two ARM and PowerVR chips in an iPhone 3GS under an Apple badge. Apple fail.

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Peanut Fox

The A4 is still faster than a Snapdragon, an ARM cortex 8, and what's currently in the 3GS.  While it's tough to make a chip to chip comparison due to the difference in hardware and OSs.  When comparing it to a Snapdragon on Android and Apple's last gen offerings, the A4 on OSX shows upwards of a %30 performance boost in tasks such as web browsing.  It also achieves that with better power efficiency.  

 

On the flip side flash not included.

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tapple

Those performance results were all over the map, from 8-60% better performance, and a 11% drop in performance. Those numbers are not remotely consistent, and prove nothing. On top of the face we can't prove whether it was the browser, OS, or hardware that made the difference.

 And it came from the iPhone Blog, so it's questionable if they omited a handfull of webpages that snapdragon might have done better on. On top of the fact they were using a nexus one (with the older 8250 snapdragon, the Incredible/Evo use the 8650) and android 2.1 (2.2 is dramatically faster).

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Peanut Fox

I looked at numbers that were posted by tech sites.  I didn't know Apple had posted their own numbers.  From the three sites I looked at, I really only focused on page rendering performance as that is something that everyone will use a phone for and is the easiest to control in a test environment. 

Again, as I said it's really hard to compare the A4 to other chips because of OS and hardware differences.  All of which can cause large performance variance.  In general when comparing the A4 to other processors that are used in phones, the A4 was generally faster.  I would of liked to see how performance scaled versus load, but these are just phones we're talking about. 

Personally I'd take a Snapdragon with a Tegra 2 beside it, but I don't see that as an offering at the moment. 

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aviaggio

Dual core snapdragons are coming later this year. Take THAT A4!

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Peanut Fox

I know and I can't wait for those, but those dual core units won't be in phones that you can buy until early next year.  My next phone is whatever Android with a dual core Snapdragon.  

The A4 however, is in a device now.

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JoeDLP

exactly.  it's like when people rag on the iPad.  "it doesn't do [this] or [that] so it sucks."  well if you all think it sucks, go buy a different tablet.  oh right, you can't because no other tablets actually exist.  a dual core snapdragon phone will probably be awesome but you can't get it anywhere.  you're willing to stick to an older, slower phone while you wait but aren't willing to even acknowledge the A4 potential in the meantime?  Sure, Apple may not put out the very best of the best, but they sell real products and not vaporware.

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tapple

Again, there is no proof the A4 is any faster than a 8650 Snapdragon. Only a couple of likely tampered with tests are available, between the best apple has to offer, and the worst Android has to offer. Complete FAIL.

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