SSD Prices Went Down, Down, Down 46 Percent On Average Over The Past Year

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Rift2

I'll stick to Mechanical with the new Mechanical drives promising more space per square inch on the disks I suspect they will be around for a while.

I like loading screens anyway I mean sometimes the loading screen is better then the game =)

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zaphodbeeblebrox 42

i agree. it kinda sucks ahve 2 ssd's in RAID 0. in me3 u cant read the text on the load screen since hardly see the load screen. same goes for allot of games :/

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anusbreath

Hmmm, bad grammar and poor typing skills strong with this one...

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sweb74

I have two 520 intel SSD in Raid 0 and all I know this is the fastest system I have ever built. Not one BSOD pal that posted first. You can't use PNY SSDs and expect great things, like excelsor hard drives were terrible as well. Stick with the name brands and you'll be fine! Learn the facts and gain some knowledge

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anusbreath

SSD's are garbage. The technology is clunky, unreliable, and really really sucks for running operating systems, and there are FAR better technologies in the works that are not only faster, but have massively larger capacity. I'd never waste a dime on an SSD. Read the millions of articles about blue screens and crashes after people switch to an SSD from a regular drive. SSD's are worthless. If you trust your priceless data on one, you're a fool.

If you're really desperate for the tiny increase in speed from an SSD, just do a RAID setup instead. You'll get massively higher reliability, and just as much speed.

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szore

You should change your name to anusbrain.

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zaphodbeeblebrox 42

the troll is strong with this one....

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anusbreath

hmmm, poor logic and reasoning strong with him it is. Following fads has led him to the dark side.

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warptek2010

I would be wary of purchasing an off brand SSD, that's number one. Number two would be trying to couple it with either older hardware, clone and existing partition onto it and not updating firmware or any combination of the above. On a new build with carefully chosen components, updated firmware and revision numbers on everything and of course a fresh install of a modern OS like Win 7 you should have ZERO problems. That simple. Done right, an SSD drive will be as reliable as any mechanical hard. I tend to take in more sources of information than just negative reviews as sometimes those reviews do not include the full story of the what and why something wrong transpired.

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steven4570

I don't know whether you're trolling or really retarded...my guess is both

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anusbreath

I don't know whether you're stupid, or you can't read... my guess is both. Search the internet for endless postings by people who have had nothing but problems with 'S'uper 'S'hity 'D'rives.

Go read all the 1-star reviews on Amazon for your prized Vertex 4 drive, and see just how lousy it is. Regular mechanical drives don't have these problems. Nuff said.

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John Pombrio

Yeah, there are plenty of folks that have issues with SSD drives, esp if you are looking for them. I find they come in two camps. The first is folks that had a bad drive. Look on ANY hard drive review in Amazon and you will see how many DOA and failed hard drives ALSO show up in one star reviews.
The other camp is usually people who are trying to retroactively add SSDs to older equipment, especially laptops. I always maintain that laptops should really be considered CLOSED systems and never should be upgraded/changed. The manufacturers get so little money selling a laptop that its not worth it for them to support drivers for new stuff: operating systems, SSDs, faster memory, larger hard drives, USB devices, etc. It causes nothing but grief. You should see the Win8 forums of people having troubles with Win8 beta on an old laptop.
SSDs have always been plug and play for me with no issues whatsoever. For me, SSDs work great.

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Bonefish

Mine works great.

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bautrey

Back in October, when I bought my PC, SSD prices averaged around $2/GB. I can't believe how fast they've dropped to under $1/GB

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anusbreath

Yeah, soon they'll drop to zero because SSD's are 'S'uper 'S'hity 'D'rives. Horrible reliability, horrible long term stability, horrible in so many ways.

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steven4570

any real world proof of this? If they were that unreliable, people wouldn't be buying them and OEM's wouldn't be using them in their high end stuff. And if you honestly believe regular hard drives in raid, or even velociraptors in raid is faster than a vertex 4, you sir are insane.

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anusbreath

Well lets see, I can take the word of endless postings from "real world" people all over the internet that have had all kinds of problems with them, or I can take the word of a single idiot like yourself. Hmmm... which seems more reliable.... hmmmm.

While you're at it, go read all the 1-star reviews on Amazon for your prized Vertex 4 drive, and see just how lousy it is. Regular mechanical drives don't have these problems. I don't care about glowing reviews because a huge percentage of those are likely written by fanboys and employees of the SSD's manufacturer, distributor, or retailer. Negative reviews are far more reliable. And before you suggest that negative reviewers (like myself) are the competitions employees and fanboys, note that I don't characterize any particular manufacturer's brand as good or bad. They ALL suck, and some worse than others. I wouldn't recommend a [S]uper [S]hity [D]rive to my worst enemy.

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steven4570

256gb SSD vertex 4 29 reviews...22 of them 4 or 5 stars. The mechanical drives have the same if not worse stars or eggs so i don't know where you're getting that info. Suit yourself...even though you're wrong.

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anusbreath

It's a numbers game. I would wager that 10% of people have problems with SSD's, whereas .01% of people have problems with mechanical drives. You have to consider that a billion people have mechanical drives, vs. a few million with SSD's. We could quibble on how much of the problem rate is a result of an inexperienced user replacing a drive, vs. issues with the drive itself, vs. issues with the hardware the drive is being placed in. For me, a 10% problem rate is completely unacceptable, especially with vital data. I also do a lot of re-imaging, partition resizing, and other drive operations using paragon's drive manager, and SSD's seem to have major issues with being used in those situations. I personally have about 20 hard drives, 5 PC's and a few of my drives are probably close to 10 years old and when hooked up to a PC work just fine. There are no issues with newer vs. older hardware, having up-to-date drivers, etc. You plug it in, it works, that simple.

Until SSD's are so vastly improved that they too have issues .01% of the time, I won't touch one. The problem there is, that by the time SSD's become that reliable, they will be obsolete. There are many competing technologies in the research stage that have the potential to store insane amounts of data and save/retrieve at insane speeds, and any one of them brought to market would crush SSD sales into oblivion.

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steven4570

user reviews show the same % of problems if not more on regular drives
...doa drive, dying after only months of use etc, you think regular HD's only have issues .01%? are you kidding me? Unless youre on a laptop you shouldn't be using your SSD for your files anyway due to capacity...you should a boot drive and a data drive. But saying regular hard drives are in every way faster than SSD's like you did in the comment above is plain ignorant.

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anusbreath

>> "user reviews show the same % of problems if not more on regular drives"

Again, there have been billions of mechanical drives sold in the past 20 years, and a very very tiny fraction of that many SSD's sold, so on the whole, mechanical drives are vastly more reliable in any hardware/software environment they are placed in.

>> "saying regular hard drives are in every way faster than SSD's like you did in the comment above is plain ignorant."

And I didn't say that mechanical hard drives are "in every way faster than SSD's" I said that you could get comparable performance and much higher reliability with a RAID set of mechanical drives.

Do you really care if you have an SSD that can read/write 2,000 Gb per second if the damn thing only works on the perfect hardware and software environment, and any changes to such environment risk blowing the thing up? Sounds like a lousy deal to me.

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steven4570

when they both have the same number of reviews, thats all we have to go on. Im not buying that argument...SSD's aren't any more or "less reliable" than regular hard drives (for normal consumer use)...you may get "comparable" sequential reads"? so regular hard drives in raid go 400 mb/s? Its more about the the .01 access time and random reads that makes the ssd fast, something a mechanical drive will not do. perfect hardware and software environment? explain what you mean by this

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anusbreath

I'll tell ya what. When the majority of enterprise servers and websites migrate off their massively efficient mechanical drives onto SSD's, then I'll consider them reliable.

It should be very cost efficient, right? I mean, one SSD has the performance of 4 mechanical drives, so you only have to have 1/4th the # of drives, which means WAY less heat in your server farms, WAY less electricity usage. Enterprises and websites should be tripping over each other to get their drives replaced with SSDs. Is it happening? NO!!! And why, when the argument is so compelling? Because they SUCK. Completely unreliable.

To think an SSD has anywhere near the reliability of a mechanical drive is ludicrous, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

>> "perfect hardware and software environment"

It seems that many people that have issues, assuming they are not incompetent, is due to the fact that their "older hardware" and/or bleeding edge hardware has problems with using SSDs. Something that's clearly not an issue with a mechanical drive. Also, people who have certain software installed, or use certain software in certain ways, seem to have issues with SSDs that make them crash the OS. I'm referring to those issues are specifically related to SSDs alone. I'm guessing the issues arise because they work in a different way than a mechanical hard drive, whether it's faulty TRIM algorithms or whatever the case may be. Read enough bad reviews of SSDs and you'll see the kinds of issues people run into that they only encountered specifically because they used an SSD instead of a mechanical drive, and returning to a mechanical drive solved their problem.

And look how many manufacturers are trying to cash in on the SSD hysteria. Corsair, Patriot, Kingston, Samsung, Intel, AData, IOmega, Plextor, Sandisk, PNY, Zalman, OCZ, etc. Zalman?? WTF? These guys make CPU fans, WTH do they know about SSD technology. Stay in your core business you morons.

Each of them has their own untested, unproven approach and technique to get in on the scam. They know early adopters will pay whatever price and there's a fortune to be made from suckers while they all try and figure out what works and what doesn't. How many fools were pick-pocketed earlier on when the controllers had problems, TRIM was a major issue, the performance degradation over time issue, and all the other problems they've had. Before manufacturers shyt out all this garbage on unwise customers, they should have resolved this stuff in the R&D phase, not the end user phase. I'm not going to be their next guinea pig as they continue to test their garbage and have the public pay for it.

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steven4570

for the business and enterprise environment is different...we are talking about the CONSUMER PCs, and macs that use them...in which case they're no more or less reliable than mechanical drives...if i read every bad review of a product id never buy anything. My intel ssd is 4 years old and still runs fine, so are the ones that ive put people on works just fine...to be calling it a scam is non sense

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anusbreath

.:.

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da_ram97

i logged in just to troll the troll

lmao anusbreath! that name fits! All that Sh** talking your doing, your breath would smell like anus!

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szore

Best comment you made yet, anusbrain.

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LakeErieWater

Just when I thought I was done buying SSD's for a while.. Newegg had a deal the other day for a 120 GB Vertex 3 for $70 after rebate. I picked one up. I'll pass off my 60 GB Agility 3 to a family member. Fantastic prices lately.

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John Pombrio

240GB Vertex 3 for $194 for me last week... That's 80 cents/GB.

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szore

What are your benchmarks?

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vrmlbasic

I thought you swore off SSDs...??

Why not the Vertex 4?

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John Pombrio

SZ, Vrml, good questions.
I did indeed say that SSDs were not worth creating a boot drive. And I was wrong! Win8 DP, the 1st iteration of Win8 booted and ran programs very fast which led me to believe that Win8 would always stay that way. Win8 CP was a pig, and Win8 RP is better but still nowhere near as fast. So SSD boot drive was a possibility.
In the meantime, my ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe mobos (3 of them mind) has a hybrid SSD/hard drive solution. That worked well SOMETIMES, enough to finally admit to needing a full on SSD boot.
Vertex 4 was indeed on my short list but at almost double the price for a somewhat faster drive, not really worth the extra money. I only need the SSD for boot and getting games to start up faster so I didn't really care about having the fastest.
I wanted a BIG drive as my 60GB and 120GB just were not large enough. When a $195 sale came up for 240GB, no brainer.

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Valor958

I torture the hell out of my storage, so most of my download folders are set to dump into old HDDs instead of my new SSD. Though I need to now set installations on old HDDs too for the more net based games since I'm filling my SSD anyways.
When an SSD is down to $0.50 per GB I'll load up on 2-4TB of those like I did with HDDs.
It probably doesn't help I catalog everything and delete almost nothing, for future reference, so tons of clutter files. Being a digital packrat has it's downsides.

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I Jedi

And that's why I'm waiting for it to go down, down, down, to the ring of cheaper prices... cheaper prices.

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szore

Get the Samsung 830 256, you will not regret it. Its at $248 right now on New Egg.

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AETAaAS

Went back to check an online retailer and for the amount I paid for my 120GB Agility 3 when it came out last year, I can now nearly buy the 240GB version.

SSDs IMO are so cheap for the performance they offer, most regular (not MaxPC-regular, I mean regular-regular :p) users who only use about 20-40GB of space should be on SSDs even if only 60GB. :p

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John Pombrio

I found that 60GB SSD is just too dang small. 120GB is the minimum I would recommend if you are running windows. 240GB let's me move in my Steam folder, a BIG plus.

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AETAaAS

Haha, exactly why I said only a certain group; those who mainly use the PC for office applications or web browsing or both. :p Those to whom 'WASD' means nothing. They who know not the liberation of being immersed in an alternate world. ^_^

@Brand, just get a 240GB like John. :p Pleanty of headroom to spare. :D

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BrandNewJesus

I agree. I am running a 60GB OCZ solid which i purchased about a year ago. I can have all my programs and one game (BF3) and am left with about 9GB. I can't decide if I should purchase an 90GB OZC vertex3 when they are on sale again for under $90 and run them in raid 0 or just get a 120GB version and put this 60 in a laptop.

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desmadroso1000

@BrandnewJesus: You have waited long, and you have survived with 60GB so far. I'd say wait 3 months or so to see how low can the prices go on that time and go for it! You could even get something as low as $0.60/GB

I personally have been rocking an Agility 2 120GB for about a Year. Then I just got a Vertex 3 on Sale and decided to get it. 120 GB as well. Cloned the Agility 2, and now, besides the free space on the Vertex3, I've got 120 GB for Games, STEAM, etc.

P.S. I've been reading the digital version of MaxPC for a while, until I saw those Troll comments about HDDs being faster and more reliable from that guy. Then I decided to make an account to shut him up, but there were too many responses about the matter; lol. I couldn't disagree more!! I suppose not reaching read/write speeds of 500+ MB/s could frustrate him to post hater comments =D.

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