SOPA Author Says Opponents Lack Credibility

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JoshThe3D

In my belief, I believe SOPA is not going to be able to survive as we have the inter internet on the side of disbanding SOPA. SOPA has been delayed so I highly doubt it will go to many miles from the start line.

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LatiosXT

"Smith asserted in the interview that Google makes money by advertising on sites that would be blocked by SOPA"

I assert that Hollywood and the musis industry are in this because they would make money from SOPA after suing everyone and their mother and shutting down various websites that offer legitimate competition. Don't claim "they're in this for the money" when you're just as guilty.

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Biceps

I'll tell you what lacks credibility... a politician with a shit-eating grin and a bad hairpiece.

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TechLarry

Of course the author will defend it.

I"m sure Godzilla's Mom defended Godzilla, but that didn't make Godzilla a good thing.

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Kinetic

Oh really Lamar? I'd say it's you that lacks credibility:

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/14/sopa-author-involved-in-copyright-infringement-claim/

It's not a huge case of piracy, but if you're going to start shoving your policies down everyone's throat, you should probably make sure you don't look like an ass while doing it.

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maxeeemum

The members of congress are morons when it comes to the internet. Many of them can't even use a computer.

 

Don't worry though I doubt SOPA or PIPA are going anywhere. This is a big election year so nothing will happen. There has been other stupid bills that never got passed this will be no different.  

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maxeeemum

I believe we were talking about internet bills. I see you have an opinion on many things also, Ah! Troll!

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triclops41

keep supporting R's and D's, and you will keep getting things like this and suspending rights of american citizens then assassinating them. and paramilitary police raids on medical marijuana users. and endless wars (you democrat apologists still really think they dont like going to war?)

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tehLazyNinja

Starting to get sick of politicians who think that just because they got elected, they're automatically experts at everything. 

You can't legislate this stuff beyond what is already there without serious unintended consequences.  The thought that comes to mind is "Politicians try so hard to get re elected because they sure as hell don't want to live under the laws they've passed."

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Ghost XFX

One of the big keys in not letting this pass, is to get them before the weekend and keep an eye on their sorry asses during the weekend as well. Congress is very good at passing BS when nobody is paying attention, thus begins the problem for everyday folk right now, we're moving about with regulations unknown hovering over our heads while politicians are laughing all the way to the bank, thanks to big time corporations...

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warptek2010

The truly ironic thing here is even if SOPA doesn't get the votes needed to pass due either to Congress not going along with the bill or public outrage or a combination of both, the White House is quietly moving ahead with "Internet ID's", telling the Commerce Department to implement Obama's measure, quietly of course. Behind closed doors as most of this crap is done.

Perhaps MAXIMUMPC journalists should do a story about this. Hello???

 

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galahadkoa

I believe the Occupy protests will be nothing compared to the shitstorm that will come if this passes. Im usually pretty moderate about things and have never felt the need to go protest or hoist the flag and fight back, but this just crosses a line that people will not tolerate. This is the information age and it is intertwined in most peoples lives. When those freedoms are taken away it will be like waking the sleeping dragon. 

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OvenMaster

IIRC, there was a massive, prolonged shitstorm when Obamacare was floated, then hotly debated. 70% of the public didn't want it. People fought bitterly against it. It crossed a line that people did not tolerate.

Obamacare got rammed down our throats anyway.

Representatives and Senators used to actually represent the people's wishes. It's reversed now... representatives and senators now represent the heavy and oppressive hobnail boot of government to the poor slobs who actually voted for them.

Voting incumbents out doesn't help when the other party (doesn't matter which one) is just as corrupt and doesn't give a rat's ass about what their constituents' wishes are.

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galahadkoa

There was no 70% against it. Opinions on Obamacare were somewhat split down the middle. I would expect most people to be against SOPA except certain politicians and the handful of companies that would benfit the most from this.

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noghiri_x

There are people who judge the bill by its name who would vote for it, but hopefully, they are a small group.

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Biceps

I agree w galahodokoa; maybe 70% of your republican buddies were against it.  Over 70% of people polled, however, did want a single-payer system that got insurance companies (and their profit margins and inefficiencies) out of the medical industry.  That didn't happen.

Books. Read them.  They are good.

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Meat_Juice

Health care for everybody? My god, run to the hills!!!

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I Jedi

So it doesn't take destroying the 5th and 14th amendment by N.D.A.A., but SOPA to propel many more to get off the computer and demand their civil liberties. Hm. I love technology and the Internet, and I see SOPA as dangerous, but I think that if this is the case, our priorities are a bit backwards.

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galahadkoa

You have to remember the NDAA did not touch anyones lives (so far) so people didnt have a connection to it including some that said they didnt like it and then went on with their lives. We are so wired to the internet that people will pay attention when someone screws with it. One of the biggest terrorist attacks that could happen would be to have all our infrastructure brought down from outside. Banking, power, etc. We no longer know how to survive without the internet as a society. Screw with that too much and people will pay attention.  

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metalglasses

The thing that sets me off about this is not SOPA itself, but the people around me don't have a clue what all of this means. It was explained to them, if a company really wants to make it in a market where pirates make due with their business, well you just have to give the customer a better service, Steam and Pandora are good examples. After I told some friends and my parents, my mother questioned if I decided not to be a capitalist anymore. I know its a stupid question.

I think its more divided on a generation scale other than the lacking of techinical knowledge of things like these. yeah if you point out that FB, Google ane wikipedia might be taken off the net, yeah the lates gen x's and the y's would come to understand that through fear of inconvience, I rather have it in another fashion, but for now that'll do. we just have to be careful about that sec, since that all is needed for the MSM to point their cameras at to make a point that it's a bunch of dumb spoiled kids who _____. 

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mls067

I totally agree! I have posted so many things about this on my facebook and not one "like" or response. I have some pretty vocal people as friends, especially in politics, and even they haven't responded. It's weird!

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Biceps

The only time I got anyone to look at it was when I told 'friends' to sign the damn petition or to defriend me.  That got a grand total of 3 replies out of over 200 connections.  People need to wake the f up.

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gendoikari1

Politicians; if they don't work, hang them up and try again.

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poee

Lamar Smith is a Republican, and the GOP is rightfully getting a lot of flack in these comments. But in the Senate, the Democrats are forging ahead with PIPA, despite the House pulling back a bit on SOPA as they await expert testimony from the "nerds" on the technical issues of the law. Harry Reid is the Democratic Majority Leader in the Senate, and he has a major hard-on for PIPA, just as he did for the DMCA. This travesty is owned by both parties. A pox on both their houses.

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Ghok

Yeah, and the funny thing is there is so much opposition to it from regular people on both ends of the political spectrum. It's the one thing that both sides of the government seem to agree on, yet those of us voting them in don't (no matter who we're voting for!).

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Happy

Anonymous is recruiting indeed! You can't arrest an idea.

 

FREEDOM!

 

I'd say "Bring the politicians to their knees" but they're already there, sucking the d*ck of their corporate lovers.

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duncansil

I'm not much for using crude remarks but in this case that's the best description of the situation I have heard.

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Shadow Death

What bothers me is he is from Texas.  We tend to like our Constitution and our rights from said Constitution.  This is a little embarrassing I have to admit.  What is really disturbing is no one in my house cared about this bill, "it doesn't apply to me", until I said facebook could be torn down.  Then suddenly everyone cared.

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zNelson24

SOPA will cost Google and other online businesses many, many jobs. They have every reason to be worried.

Shame this representative has to resort to ad hominem arguments to defend this bill, which shows you how sad politics really are in America.

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Lhot

This is just the continuing attempt by congress to break the Constitution, which they have been trying for at least the last 10-15 years...once you break the 1st ammedment the rest will fall like dominos.

The Constitution is the ONLY thing that keeps this country from turning into a 3rd world dictatorship, once you set a precedent, like SOPA surely will, then congress can use that to break the entire Constitution.

Internet Inquisition, anyone?

 

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I Jedi

Where the fuck were you people when the Patriot Act and N.D.A.A. were being passed? I don't feel two damn bits sorry for the mess this country is in because, like all of you, it's also my fault for not making a voice until now. For me, with N.D.A.A., but you all seem to freak out once the interwebs is threatened.

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someone87

+1

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Cy-Kill

SOPA Delayed; Cantor Promises It Won't Be Brought To The Floor Until 'Issues Are Addressed'

Some late breaking news here: following Lamar Smith's announcement that the new manager's amendment for SOPA will remove DNS blocking (to be added back at a later date after it's been "studied"), Rep. Issa has announced that he will now postpone the "nerd" hearing that he was holding in the House Oversight Committee, which was originally scheduled for Wednesday. The key reason? Majority Leader Eric Cantor has promised him that he will not bring the bill to the floor unless there's real consensus on the bill. That's big news -- though, as Issa notes in his statement, it's worrisome that Senator Reid still seems to want to move forward with PIPA:

 

"While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act, I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House. Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote,” said Chairman Issa. “The voice of the Internet community has been heard. Much more education for Members of Congress about the workings of the Internet is essential if anti-piracy legislation is to be workable and achieve broad appeal.”

 

"Earlier tonight, Chairman Smith announced that he will remove the DNS blocking provision from his legislation. Although SOPA, despite the removal of this provision, is still a fundamentally flawed bill, I have decided that postponing the scheduled hearing on DNS blocking with technical experts is the best course of action at this time. Right now, the focus of protecting the Internet needs to be on the Senate where Majority Leader Reid has announced his intention to try to move similar legislation in less than two weeks."

 

Indeed. It is still important that Congress hears from "the nerds" and plenty of other experts concerning the implications of these attempts to regulate the internet, but if SOPA is not going to be rushed to the floor, such hearings and education can (and should) happen in due time, rather than rushing to get them in, just as Congress comes back into session. There are more important things for Congress to focus on.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120113/23560217407/sopa-delayed-cantor-promises-it-wont-be-brought-to-floor-until-issues-are-addressed.shtml

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chipmunkofdoom2

I honestly almost had an epiphany sitting here reading this.. I thought, how in the world can this pass? I'm willing to bet a majority of Americans are not okay with this.. don't we live in a democracy? Aren't these elected "officials" (and I use that term loosely), these public servants.. aren't they supposed to do EXACTLY what we want? Isn't it supposed to be like a democracy, where we elect them, then they do what they want? Then I woke up from fairytale land and came back to reality. These self-serving cocksuckers only do what's best for their wallet and their chances of reelection. *Sigh*. If only we lived in a true democracy.. then if a majority of the people were for or against something, it would or wouldn't happen, respectively. Instead we have this system. We get asshats like this who make 6+ figures a year, have the best health insurance taxpayers can buy for the rest of their lives, and who whore themselves out to the highest bidder to stay in office and line their pockets.

Don't get me wrong, I love America and feel like we probably have one of the best governments in the world.. but there's definitely room for improvement.

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bocephus88

Actually, we have a Democratic Republic, which is how we vote on certain issues, but our elected representatives handle the bulk of the issues.  I actually like this system a majority of the time because most people do not know anything close enough about any issue to vote on every issue at hand.  Do you really want to be run by people who can't name a single Justice of SCOTUS but can name songs by Justin Beiber?  People that do not how many representatives we have, but know which celebrity is married to who? 

Are there problems with our current system?  You bet your a$$ there is, but I would rather have our current system.  Our problem is apathetic and incompetent voters.  I know a lot of people are raising hell about this issue but how many of you honestly vote?  Obviously not enough.  And sadly the people that do vote, have generally no basis for voting besides a party next to the name or some random pointless ad they saw on TV right before the election.  While some of our representatives are crooks and special interests have them wrapped around their finger, not all of them are that way.  Slowly but surely our voices are being heard.  Before they were attempting to shove this thing through as quick as possible but now they are at least open to industry experts.  I have continuously contacted my representatives (suprised none has slapped a harrassment suit on me yet) and will continue to do so.  The more people doing this the better.  Our voices are just getting out there.  They need to be louder and in bigger numbers so do not get discouraged.  

Also for those of you (not chipmunk) who have claimed us opposers are just pirates, get a life.  I can't account for others, but I do no such thing nor have I ever.  What I do, do is support a free and open internet that is wide open for everyone.  It is our last bastion of unlimited freedom and I want to keep it that way as much as possible.  As soon as they gain some control over the internet it will just grow and grow, just like every other area of our lives.

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CaptainFabulous

We stopped being a democratic republic a long time ago. We are now a plutarchy, and have been for awhile. The whole "voting" thing is just a sham.

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bocephus88

Again, I just don't buy that argument.  When presidential elections come around and we only have roughly 50% voting (The last election was high at about 60% turnout), meansa good portion of our population is apathetic and of course the same people will be voted in again and again.  This is true considering voting for senators and representatives at the national level is much lower (2006 voter turnout - 29%, 36% respectively) and even lower at the state level.  The people that representatives know will vote will be their basic audience and they will cater to them, as that is the smart thing to do.  Most people that do vote are quite older so it is not surprising that older people generally get their way and the younger generations are left in the cold and bills like this are attempted to shove through since they don't think we care.  We showed we cared and the House is backing off.  This shows that when people actually engage in the process, it can work.  Corporatism seeds into the equation, but if our representatives can get by without being held accountable due to lack of voter turnout, why should they care?

But by all means, if you think you have no control, then be powerless.

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Carlidan

Not a sham, just rigged. It's rigged when you STOP voter's from voting b/c a perseived "voter fraud". 

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Carlidan

First we need is get rid of coporations are people and Citizen United ruling. That's a first step. 

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mls067

Most definitly, and lobbiest need to go too. I know there are some good ones out there, but that system is so corrupt and broken it needs to go. No elected offical should be given anything in return for a vote, end of story! NO loopholes, NO backdoor deals!!

 

oh, and adding things to bills that NEED to be passed is a load of crap. Some of the worse legislation has been forced on us this way.

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gonzAllex

psst,quiet! got him in my Vintorez sights...should i take the shot?

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Ghost XFX

Smith can see himself jobless, since he knows so much better than the rest of us. This is the lesson pending for all politicians, both current and soon to be: When the people talk, you better damn well listen or pay the consequences...

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Cy-Kill

I'm not American, I'm Canadian, but I still don't believe anything politicians say or do, because they are professional liars -- just like lawyers -- so I believe it when I see it.  The following is from the retard's web site:

 

 

Washington, Jan 13 -

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) today said he plans to remove a provision in the Stop Online Piracy Act (H.R. 3261) that requires Internet Service Providers to block access to certain foreign websites.

Chairman Smith: “After consultation with industry groups across the country, I feel we should remove Domain Name System blocking from the Stop Online Piracy Act so that the Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision. We will continue to look for ways to ensure that foreign websites cannot sell and distribute illegal content to U.S. consumers.

 

“Current law protects the rights of American innovators by prohibiting the illegal sale and distribution of their products by domestic websites. But there is no equivalent protection for American companies from foreign online criminals who steal and sell American goods to consumers around the world. Congress must address the widespread problem of online theft of America’s technology and products from foreign thieves.

“The Stop Online Piracy Act cuts off the flow of revenue to these foreign illegal sites and makes it harder for online criminals to market and distribute illegal products to U.S. consumers. The bill maintains provisions that ‘follow the money’ and cut off the main sources of revenue to foreign illegal sites. It also continues to protect consumers from being directed to foreign illegal websites by search engines. And it provides innovators with a way to bring claims against foreign illegal sites that steal and sell their technology, products and intellectual property.

“American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs and account for more than 60 percent of U.S. exports. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while some of America’s most profitable and productive industries are under attack. The Stop Online Piracy Act protects the products and jobs that rightly belong to American innovators.”

The bill is supported by more than 120 businesses and associations from around the country including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Sheriffs’ Association, International Union of Police Associations, the National Association of Manufacturers, the AFL-CIO, the National Songwriters Association and the National Center for Victims of Crime. More information about the Stop Online Piracy Act can be found at: http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/issues_RogueWebsites.html

 

 

http://lamarsmith.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=274902

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Ghok

“American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs and account for more than 60 percent of U.S. exports. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while some of America’s most profitable and productive industries are under attack. The Stop Online Piracy Act protects the products and jobs that rightly belong to American innovators.”

Yikes! These figures are no doubt exaggerated, but isn't this kind of why we're so fucked? 60% of exports to do with intellectual property? We decided that we didn't need to do things like manufacturer our products. We just had to make up shit, have some other country make our stuff for cheap, and then we expect them to follow our rules and pay what we think something intangible is worth. What arrogant fucks we are.

I'm an artist, I depend on making money from using my creative side. I'm VERY GLAD there are intellectual property laws around to help me out. But I also realize I live in the information age. I benefit greatly from living in the information age, and I'm willing to suffer a bit for it too.

Who knows if the spam filter will let me post this, but this is a pretty damn good documentary on copyright in the information age, focusing mainly on music...

http://films.nfb.ca/rip-a-remix-manifesto/

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Carlidan

That figure might not be exagerrated. Do we really make anything anymore. We outsource basically everything. What isn't outsourced is a better question.

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AETAaAS

This is just Realpolitik 101. Who's to say the governor himself isn't receiving some massive kick back from these corporations?

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Danthrax66

So how many classes has this guy taken on DNS and networking? How many routers/switches/servers has he worked? Has he ever even heard of DNSSEC? Fuck, has he ever even touched a PC?

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mls067

the sad part is, is that he's so out of touch with the people he thinks that this will make everything okie dokie!

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metalglasses

You'll probably need two hours to explain to him that the internet is not a "series of tubes"... Yeah I know thats a repub from alaska, still same mind set.

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