Seized Streaming Site Reappears with Harsh Words for U.S. Authorities

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majorsuave

"Do you think non-US sites should have to adhere to US copyright laws?"

If its citizens are allowed to vote in the US of course.

If not, that does not make any democratic sense.

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Wingzero_x

If there are trade agreements between the two nations then this is probably covered under such agreements. I remember when Japan agreed to our copyright laws in the late 80s and virtually over night all those pirate VHS tapes disappeared. I also believe we've all heard reports about flea market raids and seizures, and this is no different. People pay a lot to have the rights to make, sell and distribute NFL merchandise including the distribution of the games themselves, and those people have the right for their investments to be protected. Even if they are "greedy" and or "evil" corporations.

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bling581

How many U.S sites are taken down each year in violation of foreign copyright laws? Something to think about.

Yes, I think they've gone too far. They need to go through proper court procedures and obtain proof the sites are violating laws. Shutting down sites for allegedly performing illegal actions is not right.

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Smokin_Gunn

World is getting tired of being told your needed with a B.F.G

vote Ron Paul =)

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thechipper

I think the United States has gone beyond the point that we would consider "too far" at this point. They are adapting their mentality towards international conflict to the internet. You may look at every individual step of their process and think to yourself "oh it's only this." but having a look back at what has been done in the name of privacy and protecting the public over the last 5-7 years you start to see a picture. It's not about piracy anymore. It's about corporate BS and control.

I apologize for singling out the United States. I am aware of several other countries that have actually passed many similar laws even before they leave the proposition stage in the US. The US is supposed to be the leader of the free world and when you do things like this to people you're sending the wrong message. And the world sees it.

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bling581

"It's not about piracy anymore. It's about corporate BS and control."

Yep. They just use piracy rhetoric to try and fool those less informed people and the media from questioning their actions.

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Nimrod

Your tack sharp on the spot and its going to get worse.

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-will-use-the-excuse-of-a-wartime-crisis-to-liquidate-the-resistance-to-the-police-state/

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yammerpickle2

I’m not into the pirate thing. I believe that those who make and provide content should be compensated for their efforts. But what worries me is that the Department of Homeland Security is involved in this. I don’t consider file sharing or streaming an immediate threat to homeland security and under that department. Now I can see the FBI, but Homeland Security? I know that the US now has made it so that just about anybody can be charged as a terrorist, but really we are putting more enforcement and jail time on file sharing people than we do on murders. The punishment does not fit the crime. This is just another step further towards a police state where equal protection under the law only applies to the wealthy. In this system the poor are ignored because they do not have expensive lawyers or make large political contributions. My tax money is used to shore up and protect rich corporations finances meanwhile innocent children are being shot and killed in my neighborhood. That is more important to my security in my home than some streaming.

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tekknyne

My whole gripe with this issue is - ok so I watch the super bowl or something on one of these sites. I still watch the stupid commercials. Everybody is still getting paid. If cracker-jack organizations like Fristrow can get me the TV shows that I want, what the f**k is going on with Comcast and Dish's business model that they have SOOOOO many more resources and yet they totally fail at delivering good TV and Shows. How bout this: f**k paying Comcast and f**k paying Dish. They have to make all their money off of advertising dollars.

Oh now I see the problem heh. They would actually have to be competitive. Their congressman-backed oligopolies would be threatened. Gotcha. FAYUL.

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Nimrod

I see new multimillion$ stadiums being built all the time. I hear people talking about games more than i care to. Player salaries are doing pretty good. Ticket sales havent slumped, and their not to cheap either.

I really dont understand what the deal with all the sympathy is over this magabillion dollar industry. People act as if their entertainment is in jeopardy or something and you all like to pretend as if some one is actually getting hurt because of these streaming sties.

Shit every time Tebow takes a bow he must be praying to God that he doesnt lose his job because of these dastardly streaming websites! He is truly thankful every time he steps on to the field for the opportunity because they might bulldoze Mile High! Also no one can find John Elway, he left after he heard about these websites!

We must now convert all sports arenas into mega rehab centers for out of work professional sports player and their managers!

Im going to have my friends over for a supper bowl party that we will watch on a postage stamp sized feed hosted from Zimbabwe because i like most other people dont get the basic cable chan that the SB is on!

Then we will all put on some jerseys that dont have the official holographic sticker on the tag because thats what most people do, it makes us look like OG thug life super wealthy rap stars!

Then we will eat pizza but it will be DiGiorno not delivery.

You idiots realize that the law actually says you cant record the game on your DVR and watching it with friends later???????? Why dont you self righteous ass holes act all defensive about that?

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Ghok

"Then we will eat pizza but it will be DiGiorno not delivery."

Aw man, sometimes you've just got to spoil yourself!

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tekknyne

The super bowl will be broadcast for the first time online for free on nbc.com . Your point still stands -- just trying to be helpful.

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Cooketh

If the material in question is Intellectual Property of a U.S. citizen or U.S. based organization, then yea it seems to me the U.S. has the legal right to take action on domains.

This isn't some big news though.

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Ghok

Can other countries take "action on domains" if their laws are broken?

Because I know a few middle eastern countries with some laws that I would NOT like to see enforced on the internet.

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Nimrod

I took a topless pic of a girl in Egypt and put it on my webpage. Yeahup thats right, you could see EVERYTHING above the collar bone!

Hope the Pharaoh doesnt find out about this. If he fallowed the same policy as us as us they would shut down the entire server my page is on.

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jaygregz

I rarely comment on these subjects. The reason for that is because I may or may not be guilty of on occasion going the cheap route and hypothetically (lawyer that) "illegally" downloading content I have not paid for. I must admit that puts me in the category of doing things on the internet that I would consider unethical if it was anywhere but the internet. I'm one of those people who isn't going to try to have my cake and eat it. Therefor I don't get angry whenever I see the US Government or anyone else pulling these sites off the internet. By all means they should have all rights to do that. To put this in contrast.. being mad about that is almost like a thief being mad that the police are seizing a stolen car. Makes about as much sense as a Popsicle in a toaster.

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Nimrod

I got news for you. These thugs arent lookout out for YOU. They are not going to take action when your itelectual property is stolen. They are doing the bidding of the highest paying lobbyists in D.C.

They dont work for you, they work for Hollywood. You act as if its a victory for you, well, its not. Its not YOUR rights their protecting, so dont bow up and do your chicken dance routine as if you have anything to gain from this. This is the same government that has just illegally declared they will arrest you for no good reason if they want to and you wont get a lawyer. The TSA will be giving people illegal pat downs at the Super Bowl btw. But then again it doesnt mean much when i say that because most idiots havent even read the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights or the Magna Carta for that matter so w/e

Wake the fuck you stupid sheep.

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tekknyne

"They can touch our balls at the airport, but they can never take our internet!" - If you haven't seen that Braveheart meme, it is HILLARIOUS.

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kris79

I really like your allegory. You make a great choice of words, yet the truth is first that there really should be some set legal means to take down these sites. They should only have the right if they have the right. You know, proof and such? Apparently that hasn't been the case and all sites fingered by Hollywood are guilty till proven innocent. I haven't been able to find yet, what laws are being broken. I know, I know, some of you will say isn't it obvious? And I say, no it isn't. The rich media moguls say, I don't care - I just wants me money! Well, when they start making laws for the rest of us, please let me know. Until then, why can't the US legal system live within their own laws and not exist just to do the bidding of their Hollywood masters. Either the internet is free or it isn't. We have to make that call or lose our autonomy. I'll start practicing my bleating now in preparation for others response. Baaaaaaaa!

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Ghostryderflyby

If you are streaming content that originated in the U.S., originally hosted on U.S. domains, then you need to adhere to U.S. copyright laws. If he wants to avoid U.S. copyright law, then he should stream European content. Plain and simple.

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Nimrod

No they dont, not if our laws dont apply to them. They are literally under no obligation to adhere to our law at all.

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kris79

Sheeple- listen to me! I know what's best for you...

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phaseone

I just checked the site (firstrowsports.eu)and what I saw was in fact that webpage actually streaming content, not linking anything. So first off that is bad.

Second, I did some quick research on .com domains and to my knowledge they are US domains. So to have a .com (top-level domain) even if you do not reside in the US you should have to obey US laws. Streaming Sporting events which clearly tell you that you do no have permission to stream is a violation.

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Nimrod

Today's Super Bowl was canceled on account of people streaming it. The NFL went bankrupt.

Wait, no.

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phaseone

I have seen your previous comments here and given the content there is nothing for me to add.

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Scatter

Would someone please explain to me how Firstrow has a right to stream live sporting events based in the US without the rights or approval form those sports governing bodies or the networks that paid for their broadcast rights?

Basically they were stealing and selling something that didn't belong to them, right?

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macncapn

firstrow doesn't stream anything, they just link to streamed content on outside sites. Someone might stream the game on Ustream and firstrow would embed that stream on their website. As for using the words stealing and selling to describe what streamers are doing, thats a whole other argument.

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KenLV

So are "fences" not criminals? No, it’s all part of the same argument. Yawn. Same hollow arguments to justify thievery that costs all honest consumers.

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kris79

Yes. Listen to KenLv. It's much better that people who live in New England cannot watch their team because I need more money so that they can give me money for what should be free over the public paid for internet at great cost. Opps! Did I say that out loud? Shit!

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KenLV

“…what should be free over the public paid for internet at great cost.”

Huh???? What does the “great cost” of the internet have to do with the rights holders of the programs/merchandise in question? If I’m understanding you, and I may not be as your second sentence is a bit fuzzy, but if I’m getting you, by your logic, food and just about everything else “should be free” because it travels over the “public paid for interstate network”.

Seriously man, is that the best argument you can make for theft?

“Opps! Did I say that out loud? Shit!”

Yes, and I can understand why you are upset with yourself for such foolishness.

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silverblack

Not true. You only need express written consent to rebroadcast sport events within the US. Outside the US you only need implied oral consent, or so the legends go.

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jadei

I thought the whole point of SOPA/PIPA was to stop non-USA domains from IP infringement. Yet, Homeland security can just do that anyway apparently so wtf was the point of SOPA and PIPA?

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Gezzer

As far as I can tell it was meant to make all the work of policing and blocking infringing sites the responsibility of ISPs and companies like Google. Make them eat the costs of trying to fight IP infringement I guess.

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chronium

The whole point of SOPA was to implement the great firewall of america as for PIPA I don't really know what its about since all news media seem to ignore it.

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Biceps

Same shit different name.

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Tyger

since they were targeting sites that sell counterfeit NFL merchandise....was ebay shut down?

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Biceps

Now that is a good question. I think the answer is no - after all they are our laws, and are only applicable in the US.

I do think Americans should follow American copywrite laws (flawed as they are).

Global corporations do everything they can to avoid American taxes, to move expensive American manufacturing jobs overseas and undermine American environmental and FDA rules, but then want us to enforce American laws overseas. I see a conflict of interest.

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schwit

How did they kill .tv sites? That's the TLD for the islands of Tuvalu.

Verisign manages the domain names for them. Because of VeriSign's involvement, and the fact that VeriSign is based in the United States, it is subject to United States law.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Sure. The U.S. is the world police. We own everybody. All other nations must bow down before our might. No one fucks with our rich white elite.

I understand why they're pissed. America blows dead goats. Rather, its leadership blows dead goats. They're lazy whores bent over our constitution, letting corporations write the laws and run the country.

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ApathyCurve

Hark! A troll most foul! Begone, disgusting creature! Away, I say!

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Nimrod

You do of course realize hes RIGHT dont you? OR did you not notice that most of the FDA is made up of the MONSANTO board of directors?

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tugboat_2

Then go somewhere else that is better. You do a lot of bitching but idon't see you fixing anything.

Oh here is an idea. Go to somewhere in Africa that has received planes and boat loads of aid like food and ask tithe local politicos to stop getting rich selling it.

We have our problems. But no where near what you crybabies make it out to be.

If the site was selling stuff that did not honestly outright belong to them. Then they are thieves and deserve to be shut down. Anyone knowingly going to such sites and buying said stolen property is also a thief. At the very least you are willingly enabling them.

A thief is a thief.

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stevinp

I agree a thief is a thief, but someone selling fake NFL stuff is not the problem of Homeland security. Homeland security should be going after gang members and "other" terrorists. Let the NFL take those folks to court and sue them out of existence. Oh wait that would require them to present evidence in court that an actual violation of law existed. I'm just saying that Homeland security has more important things they should be doing than policing people for copyright infringement. So can Apple get them to shutdown Samsungs Web sites. Can Motorola ask them to seize Apples domain, Can they shutdown HTCs web site. No they are all doing it the right way, they are taking each other to court to actually "prove" that copyright infringement exists! Let the NFL, MPAA, RIAA use their "own" money to stop the infringement, not taxpayer dollars!

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Meat_Juice

Yep, that summarizes quite nicely what the world thinks of America and why.

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KenLV

LOL, sure, sure, everyone hates America. Well, until they need us that is.

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