Rumor: Nvidia Plans Launch of GT 300 GPU for Early 2009

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jvc08

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Mayhemm

Way to go with the process-shrink, nVidia!  Now do a board shrink.  Maybe if you designed a card that was less than a foot long, it would fit in my case.

And no, I don't want to replace my Antec Solo.  I like it.  Please make a card that will not hit the hard drive cage.  Thanks.

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maniacm0nk3y

About that naming scheme- I NEVER had any trouble. One look and I understood. It wasn't that hard! People just didn't think hard enough. If your that interested into looking for a new graphics card you would be looking at the specs anyways so I don't see what's the big deal. Now they do actually make it so I have to think once in a while to see where nVidia is at the moment.

 For the new cards, though it just feels like there stuck, and even braking a little. It used to be great performance gains every 6 months, but lately these cards are just revamped or renamed of the same gpu. 

 I have an eVGA 8800GT 512mb and it does well, but I still wish I could play all my games at least above 60FPS at all times. Oblivion still stumbles and of course Crysis eats my card up, but they are both playable. Now is the time to wait until they start making serious progress, in my opinion.

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Keith E. Whisman

If you motherboard supports SLI then you could buy another 8800GT video card really cheap and run SLI and get higher frame rates.

I run two 8800GTS 640MB video cards in SLI and it's sweet. I recon it runs about the same performance of an Geforce GTX260 on some benchmarks. It does run all the latest games at 1680X1050 with all the eyecandy turned up except for Crysis and GTA4. I actually run Far Cry 2 with all the settings maxed out with AA and AF. There are no slow downs. 

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Pixelated

I own an 8800GTX and I reckon two 8800GTS 640's in SLI is faster than a single GTX 280. Think about it. Two 8800GT (G92) in SLI are faster than a GTX 280. I would say a single 8800GTS 640 is on par with the G92 variant.

The 8800GTX was the single best hardware purchase I've ever made. At just over $500 it has lasted two long years and still plays the latest games wonderfully. Actually I've been thinking of picking up a cheap used 8800GTX on EBay to throw in my 680i next to the other one and my overclocked E8400@4.5Ghz. Nothing better than getting extra life out of aging hardware.

Now if all hardware would be relevant after two years.

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ProtoJMB

Heck, I can hardly make heads or tails of what's going on here. I guess the "5" in xx5 is supposed to mean it's better than the previous cards?

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Mongoitus

I once blew $500+ on the latest video card, and I will never do so again. I just don't like the amount of marketing/shilltards out there who try to make it seem like if you're not running $500-$1000 in graphics hardware...you're not playing the game as it was meant to be played. I'm sure they already have the 380 lined up ready to go in July sometime. If you got the money to burn every 6 months, hell go for it. I would.On the good side, this just makes all their other cards that much cheaper soon as this hits the shelves. And if they didn’t pimp some new hardware every 6 months then that 280 or 4870x2 would stay out of reach for peoples price range for that much longer.

 

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Eternal Visitor

my system has a $50 EVGA 8400GS, and it plays everything I want it to just fine, and I've seen systems using this card handle plenty of games. I only upgrade my video card if I absolutly want to play a game that the old one can't handle at all, and even then, I only spend wnat I absolutly HAVE to.

 

you don't need the latest and greatest (or even this gen's bargin) to game

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Naw-yi

i only buy ati/amd, intel/nvidia are about prices and not the consumer. 

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Pixelated

Here's some food for thought, ALL corporations are about money and NOT the consumer. Believe me when I say that if AMD\ATI were on top they would do the same. Having a preference is fine but I always go with price vs performance and right now it's Intel and ATI.

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Pyrophorics

Heh, funny you should say that. When I can't disagree that ATI has better pricing (because they are on the low end of the totem pole and have to price competively) they have some of the worst customer support I have every experienced.

I believe that is at falt of AMD, ATI used to have great support back in the day.

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QUINTIX256

Like DIAMOND, who primarily give (the lousy) customer support, not the people who make the chips.

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Keith E. Whisman

It seems to me that Nvidia always produces a stupid fast video card that requires stupid amounts of power and then six months to a year later Nvidia will release a die shrink and a refresh of the same chip that is faster and uses alot less power. Why can't nvidia just make a bad ass chip design and then figure out how to make it use less power and build it with a smaller process before shipping a product? That way we get the most badass video card that can be made. It's like they anticipate making a fast video card that they purposefully build so that it can be made faster later on and shipped as a new video card. This deal is great for Nvidia but sucks for us the consumer.

 

Like look at the 8800 video cards and then a year later the 9800 video cards came out. This is a trend that is starting to suck. 

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Pyrophorics

Why? This way they can get some suckers to buy a video card every 6 months.

The unfortunate part is that games are changing at the speed of companies like nVidia and ATI. That is unfortunate because by the time a new card is released, we actually need that card to be able to run the new game at anything above negative 10 fps.

Then you get some developers who think they are smart but putting a spin on their poor coding. Oh yeah, our new game "Super Mega Shoot 2099" is future proof. Yeah, it will run like dirt on anything other than brand spanking new hardware but even then, there wont be a computer able to fully handle it for another 5 years. However, by the time said hardware is released (in 5 years) it is developed based on new technology. So, that 5 year old game still runs like crap because it wasn't "coded" for this new fangled techie stuff.

Just like M$ and Intel ... companies like ATI and nVidia have these super secret deals that go on that customers are never truly aware of.

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s3th

Wrong, the only game that requires massive setup is Crysis, and that game was made with benchmaring in mind. Any other games that come out one Mid-Range video card will do the job.

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Keith E. Whisman

Errr now your wrong... GTA4 was designed to look it's best on a three year old XBOX360 yet it slows to a craw on medium settings in Windows with the highest end parts... Explain that. At least I could get Crysis to run and everyone expected Crysis to be a hardware hog. Nobody saw GTA4 as being such a beast. 

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Digital-Storm

GTA 4 is an unoptimized piece of garbage made for the Xbox 360 which has a different programming standard then that of the PC equivalent. It also has different hardware designed in a way that makes it great for games. Now, if GTA 4 was made for the PC in the first place, you could make comparisons, but since it is just a port, you cannot do that.

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Keith E. Whisman

Sure I can as more and more games are just ports to PC's it's very very fair to expect a well coded game. If they can't get the game to run properly on the targeted system then they shouldn't release it. GTA4 should have been ported properly.  I've had plenty of ported games in the past run very well on my computer. In the near future most games for the pc will be ports and there really is nothing that can be done about it. We have directX api's that allow the software to access the computers hardware independantly. So GTA4 should run great on newer hardware if it were ported properly. They screwed it up and it is entirely fair to compare game ports.

Also don't forget that the XBOX360 is a pc with a version of windows os with a neato frontend. The Xbox 360 uses an IBM PowerPC TriCore CPU and an ATI graphics chip. It also has ram and a rom chip to hold the OS heck it even has network capabilities and a DVDRom drive. What the key information is here is that it uses a Windows based OS. It's a derivitive of Windows 2000.

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s3th

Looks like someone does their research before arguing, I've never herd of anything an Xbox Uses besides its ran by Microsoft, smart move there bro lol. :P

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maniacm0nk3y

I played Vice City and San Andreas on the Pc, only because I had a 360 and didn't want to buy it for the console.

 Both games played but just didn't seem right. Rockstar just doesn't seem very good at making games for PC, even if it was exclusive. 

I guess that's all I have to say. I really thought it would work for GTA4, since the graphics are more up to date but Rockstar dropped it like a rock.

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QUINTIX256

"Just like M$ and Intel ... companies like ATI and nVidia have these
super secret deals that go on that customers are never truly aware of."

There are price fixing conspiracies on nearly a daily basis, and unfortunatley some actually make it before a venue-shopped judge. Think of the "we raised the margins on high end" stuff you heard earlier. Maximum PC compares price wars to a game of chicken. This isn't the best way to put it, but lets go with that illustration. If they "collide", that means no or negative margins, and selling products at a loss. No new fabs, no new tallent, and maybe shutting down fabs and laying off talent. So of course competing companies in the same field (especialy when they have an overmarketed common enemy: the "centrino" brand that requires intel's Graphics Media Decelerator) are going to discuss strategy and, dare I say it, "fix" prices.

Not to mention that nowadays, especially at the midrage, you currently have the best bang/buck, so I wouldn't put much faith in price fixing conspiracies.

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