Rumor: Apple iPhone 5S to Come in Different Sizes

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jedisamurai

I'll consider buying an iPhone when its $99.00 and the monthly bill TOTAL is 49.99. Until then...a dumb phone and an iPod touch is good enough for me.

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Engelsstaub

My monthly bill is 40 bucks on Virgin Mobile. The $99.00-part though = LOL.

I used to have a Samsung dumbphone and an iPod Touch. The last-gen iPod's picture quality was absolutely atrocious and I blew a lot of seriously priceless shots that I wish I had had the iPhone (or any decent smartphone) for. If you have the current-gen iPod Touch then you're probably fine for something like that.

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petrol42

Isn't it obvious that the public wants phones with bigger screens?

The Samsung Galaxy S3 is priced on par with an Apple iPhone 5 but people still seem to be snatching up the S3 as fast as an iPhone.

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jgottberg

The day they offer the iPhone in multiple sizes of the same model will be the day Apple "jumps the shark"

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vrmlbasic

Apple has attached a standard hardware profile to each product name, to date, in their mobile lineup (unless I'm forgetting something). If they create an iPhone5S that comes in different sizes they will be destroying that uniformity (and uniformity has benefits) unless they rename each variant. Even if they rename each variant they'll still be increasing the "fragmentation" of their user base, losing an advantage they hold over Android.

If this comes to pass, Steve Jobs might rise from the grave and take control of Apple again. It would seem that he didn't get the right people in positions of power before his untimely demise.

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DiegoKErmit

I am not an Apple fan, but I have to admit that their products sold some kind of "status", but since Jobs' death they have been throwing that... chainging their ac adapter for the iphone 5 and making all your old adapters obsolete was not the brightest choice, in my opinion, and now, making diffrent sizes for iPhone makes them even closer to all the other phone brands

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big_montana

I am not a big Apple fan, but I like the universal adapter, I wish all OEM's would license this from Apple so there would be no need to have 30 different power adapters. As far as purchasing an iPhone if they came in different screen sizes? No, as that is not what has prevented me from buying one in the first place, it is the strict controls Apple places on their user base in the first place telling them what apps you can install on your device, and what you cannot have. Yes, Android does this to but it is more carrier specific than Google. Plus iOS is old, outdated and long in the tooth. There is nothing must have or can't live without in their last few releases, just updates is all. That is why I went with the HTC One this time around. Didn't hurt that HTC also is giving me $100 for my 3 year old phone either.

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MaximumMike

>>but I like the universal adapter, I wish all OEM's would license this from Apple

Wait, what??? USB is a universal adapter platform that everyone but Apple uses. Apple's proprietary technology is the antithesis of "universal". It's not even backwards compatible with their own stuff. Wouldn't it make sense that instead of having everyone give Apple a lot of money for use of something they don't need, because there is already a "universal" standard, instead Apple would adopt universally accepted technology?

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severnia

My thoughts exactly. Most of the world is pushing for universal charging and for the most part, its centered around Micro-USB.

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eastbayrae

The new adapter is a massive upgrade over the old one.

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tony2tonez

Whats difference if it makes your other chargers useless. I watch all the time apple people asking to charge their phone only they cant because who has a 4 and who has a 5.

While i laugh because i can take any microusb and charge my phone or anyone else.

Apple decided to tell their sheeple that this is a better charger now buy another one. And they all did. Because they had to retain their 'status'.

Samsung changed one of their tablet chargers away from USB. So i refused to buy it. When a USB is easily available and i can charge it anywhere.

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renodude18

Wouldn't mind it when it comes to games and other things I can just do on my computer. I have a few co workers that have the Note 2 phablet's which are just outrageous considering its something that you hold up to your ear. On the other hand it would be nice for games as I have the 4S and don't mind it but when it comes to zombie killing on the go I wouldn't mind the size of the iPhone 5, But I still prefer my PC's gaming over a smartphone any day.

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Fray

I'm pretty happy with my iphone 5, but if there was a larger one I'd get that instead next time.

Or maybe a large android phone.

At present it is possible to read a book on the iphone, but I could do with more screen size.

Screeen size, screen resolution and battery life are the key points for me.

I will never get a Windows 8 phone because I am irritated with Microsoft about how the Windows 7 desktop widgets, taskbar, etc, were removed to push the ludicrous Metro.

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AETAaAS

Wouldn't touch it simply because of the OS, and while I will accept we don't know what the 5S will bring, I seriously doubt it will be more exciting than the HTC One, SGS4 or Xperia Z.

Apple is on the back foot now and they have painted themselves into a corner; as we saw with the iPad Mini's poor screen resolution. Simply because they wanted to dredge up old numbers than actually innovate.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

"There's no arguing that Apple's been mighty successful in telling its customers what they want."

Really Paul? I wasn't aware that Apple was holding a gun to anyone's head while they were purchasing an Apple product. No one was forced into buying anything from them, nor any other company. Why is it so difficult to just not give a shit what other people spend their money on?

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Paul_Lilly

Methinks you read way too much into that statement, and took it in the wrong direction in doing so. See bullet point No. 1 in this Forbes article. Or to save you the click, here's a couple of quotes you'll find in that link:

1) "We built [the Mac] for ourselves. We were the group of people who were going to judge whether it was great or not. We weren’t going to go out and do market research." -- Steve Jobs in a 1985 intervie with Playboy.

2) "A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them." -- Steve Jobs in a 1997 interview with Business Week.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Maybe I am Paul but given the dynamic that exists within the MaxPC reader base, it's hard to view that statement in an innocuous light. I know the anti-Apple rhetoric gets extra clicks around here but it really is ridiculous to keep feeding the hate. That sentence could be written a thousand different ways without imparting a condescending tone, regardless of statements a dead CEO made decades ago.

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Engelsstaub

They've actually kind of calmed down on it in recent times.

I think a large percentage of MaxPC readers belong to the School of Gordon (I jest...I like Mr. Ung) when it comes to Apple-loathing. Sometimes it takes a few pricks like you and I to come around and give everyone some balance and get verbally abusive up in this bitch :P

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DeltaFIVEengineer

True story brah! I'm happy to get verbally abusive every once in awhile if it helps bring people back to reality ;-)

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MaximumMike

Yes, because there's inevitably some Wikipedia article out there that will claim that the best way to deal with a jerk is with verbal abuse.

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Engelsstaub

Works for me both IRL and online. YMMV.

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Renegade Knight

Really. A study showed that Apple owners are more delusional than any other brand. Delusional means accepting the flaws as a positive. That actually does put Apple in a position to tell their customers what they want better than any other company.

To be fair. That doesn't mean all Apple customers are delusional or that other brands don't have delusional customers. Just that Apple has higher percentage.

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Caboose

This is how Apple has done business for years. They have their followers convinced that they don't need a feature, when everyone else has it. And the Apple cultists believe it. When someone with a phone that has say NFC, or LTE, the Apple cultist will scoff and say "What do you need that for? You don't need that."

When Android was able to do a simple thing like C&P, and iOS lacked that; if you brought that up to an Apple cultist, they'd look at you like a cow looks at an oncoming train. And they'd want to know what you need it for, then scoff and say that it was stupid and you didn't need it.

Then, Apple introduces the ability to C&P, and suddenly it's a huge thing. The rest of the world looks on confused, saying "Um.. this isn't new. Everyone else has had it for years." but to the Apple cultist, it's shiny and new and perfect and only Apple could have done it.

Apple has convinced the masses that they aren't cool unless they have an iPad, an iPhone and an iPod. And the uninformed masses believe it.

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Engelsstaub

We're on the subject of "delusional" and ironically you've taken the time to give made-up quotations to imaginary people. LOL?

"The rest of the world looks on confused." Hyperbole much? I doubt "the whole world" gives as much of a shit as you like to imagine.

Also funny: the melodramatic use of religious terminology ("cultist") to describe people and their choices in phones. If such "cultists" are saying/doing such things how difficult would it be to relate one actual experience?

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Caboose

I'm sorry, I should have said "the tech world". My mistake.

Yes, there are Apple cultists. They exist. Watch the documentary MacHeads if you don't believe me. By the end of the film, you'll think you were watching a documentary about a religious cult.

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Baer

Caboose, +1, so true

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acidic

ding ding ding. that pretty much sums it up perfectly. i can't wait to see what the next great thing is. according to rumors it will be different colors and 2 count 'em two different models. it will be nothing but pure genius and nothing short of revolutionary.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

What you're describing happens in every aspect of life. It's called marketing. All of these "wants and needs" are highly subjective since ultimately they're imposed by the company pushing their product.

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Caboose

Absolutely. Apple is amazing at marketing. They are able to convince consumers what they want. They say things and do things in such a way that people believe it. Steve Jobs was a marketing genius.

Apple words things in such a way that the consumer believes there is no other alternative, and any other offering from other companies is inferior and incapable of performing said tasks.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

I think you're missing the point entirely.

Gillette is great at convincing people that they need to shave to be attractive. Coca-Cola does a fantastic job convincing people that their soda will actually quench your thirst. Starbucks convinces people that their coffee is worth 5 bucks a cup. And the list goes on and on...

People have choices in this world and those choices are largely influenced by the person/company who is better at marketing. The people who think they're immune to any outside influence are the ones truly deluding themselves.

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wolfing

phones getting bigger and tablets getting smaller.
I like my phone to be max. size like my Galaxy S3, and my tablet 10".

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Zstreek

I have a hard time thinking of anything apple could ever do to earn my business. My Galaxy note II is leaps and bounds better than my wife's iphone 5. We got her the 5 because she has an ipad. However, when it is time to upgrade the tablet or her phone we are going to ditch apple altogether.

I think there is only 1 really good reason to use apple. You are tech illiterate and just need something that is foolproof. If that is what you want apple is your tool. However, if you are looking for price, features, cutting edge tech, compatibility, working maps, or just about anything else, you have to go with some other manufacture.

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vrmlbasic

What about screen resolution? Apple still leads the pack on that. My iPod Touch from 2010 or so has a higher resolution than does my 2012 Droid RAZR Android phone, and except for the horrible iPad mini there doesn't seem to be any other company trying to equal or (dare I say it) exceed the screen resolution of Apple's Retina iPad or Macbook in the same market. Shoot, my ancient Macbook pro has a higher screen resolution than most modern laptops.

When it comes to screens, "cutting edge tech" screens, Apple is still king.

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petrol42

vrmlbasic: Are you SERIOUS? Screen Resolution?

Lets see here:

Google Nexus 10 - 2560 x 1600 vs. 2048 x 1536 for iPad 3/4

Google Nexus 7 - 1280 x 768 vs. 1024 x 768 for iPad mini

HTC One - 1920 x 1080 vs. 1136 x 640 for iPhone 5

Sony Experia Z - 1920 x 1080 vs. 1136 x 640 for iPhone 5

Galaxy S IV - 1920 x 1080 vs. 1136 x 640 for iPhone 5

These devices are just a small list of Android devices that have higher resolutions than the Retina display.

vrmlbasic: You are the type of Apple consumer that disgusts me. Come out from under your Apple branded rock.

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Engelsstaub

You missed the Retina MacBook Pro. Who's tried to one-up that yet?

I don't think (judging from comments I remember here in the past) that vmlbasic is living under an Apple-branded rock. I think he or she was trying to give an unbiased perspective and was (as you've pointed out) technically incorrect.

It would have been more accurate to say that Apple has set the standards on screen res..at least in recent times. The iPad's so-called retina display was the highest res offered and others scrambled to compete with and one-up it. Now this is speculation but I don't believe those screen resolutions on the devices you've listed would be nearly as high if Apple hadn't raised the bar.

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MaximumMike

I dare say that it is speculation. Screen technology has been around for a long time; Apple doesn't develop screens (someone else does); and there's more to a screen than pixel density. Apple's so-called setting of the bar was with the iPhone 4's retina display (manufactured by Samsung) which launched in June of 2010, with a ppi of 326. In the same month, the original Galaxy S also launched with a larger screen and resolution, but lower ppi. Most reviews I read of the two phones found that the Galaxy's larger screen and better color made it the superior screen, despite its lower ppi. But if all you care about in terms of screen technology is pure pixels per inch, then the HTC Rezound launched in November of 2011 (little more than a year later) with a beautiful 4.3" screen with 720 x 1080 HD resolution and 342ppi (and I'm not sure there weren't other scrrens that eclipsed 326 ppi before this one).

Two generations later, the iPhone is still using the same tired technology that can't quite get to 720p HD resolution, while HTC's One has 1920 x 1080 full HD and 468 ppi. Let's not forget that HTC is also the company that set the bar for screens on PDA's and PDA-phones (which is really what smart phones are) in the first place. HTC phones were around when Apple couldn't see past the iPod and iTunes. HTC even manufactured the popular HP iPAQ PDA's of their time. Truth be known, HTC invented the bar when it comes to the mobile form factor.

I fail to see how Apple's achievement of best ppi on a screen for the period of a whole entire year by using someone else's screen technology equates to pushing the industry forward in the manner you suggest. The real truth is that the industry had been moving forward all by itself for quite sometime, without any help from Apple. And it has now moved forward again while Apple stagnates. The one true and consistent innovator is HTC, as demonstrated by decades of achievements with mobile computers, over Apple's four or five years of vainglorious marketing.

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Engelsstaub

I *said* it was speculation. Pretty reasonable too, to someone who isn't irrationally biased.

"I fail to see how Apple's achievement of best ppi on a screen for the period of a whole entire year by using someone else's screen technology..." ...you fail to see it because you don't want to see it.

It doesn't matter if Apple handcrafts the damned screens in California or not. If they are the ones introducing it they are the ones marketing the technology and "raising the bar." They pay for the screen to be made to their specifications. This is the lamest and most obtuse argument ever propagated by someone predisposed to their antiboy-biases. How many computer or phone companies manufacture their products entirely in-house??

Where's your 2880-by-1800 laptop monitor? My reply was about the rMBP and the iPad...but feel free to ignore that and talk about phones because it fits your narrative.

"...but if they don't hand-craft the screens themselves then it doesn't count!" Why don't you apply that illogical and predisposed thinking to everyone else then? I didn't say they raised the bar in everything. People like you have and will pound off paragraphs of lame excuses to not even give them the sliver of credit they are due. If I'm not always "right" (and none of us are) at least I strive to be objective.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

What a ridiculous statement to make. But keep on with the generalizations and blanket statements.

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MaximumMike

Yes, because it's not enough to just have your unfounded and sweeping generalizations; we must have everyone else's as well. Though I don't agree with your assessment of the original post, I can certainly see why you advocate this kind of writing.

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Zstreek

ok

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jason2393

I miss the Palm Tungsten T3 sliding concept. The device could expand to reveal more screen real estate, then it could slide back to a smaller size to fit into a pocket easier. I don't have an iPhone, but I have the latest iPod Touch, and can say that the extra height is an annoyance in my pocket. I like the bigger screen, but not the bigger device.

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