Retired Music Theorist Concocts Krush Keyboard So Everyone Can Type 100 WPM or More

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fung0

The Dvorak keyboard was supposed to dramatically improve typing speed, but no tests other than Dvorak's own have ever confirmed that claim. It seems very likely that keyboard layout is not the limiting factor in typing speed.

Furthermore, even if a few people were willing to do the work of learning this new layout, it would be a very risky investment. They wouldn't be able to use their typing skills in most jobs, and if (when) the Krush keyboard fails commercially, their effort will have been entirely wasted.

I'm sure all the countries that have standardized on Esperanto as their native language will be eager to lay their hands on Mr Krush's invention. The rest of us will muddle along as before.

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biggiebob12345

I do type 120wpm with dvorak. It is a lot less tiring than doing the same thing with qwerty, but at the same time brain can only send "move finger" commands so fast which limits my top speed.

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ZX9RDan89

The biggest problem I see for worldwide acceptance of this keyboard is that it is English only. It just wouldn't work so well with any other language because the frequency of letters used varies from language to language.

Metric rocks!
Dan

My opinion Doesn't Matter.

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bpstone

That could be easily changed. Ersten Deutsch.

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evertroy

If this takes off, I'll buy a MPC subscription.

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razorpetti37

If we can't even get the United States to convert to the metric system, which is already used everywhere else in the world, how are we going to get people to switch to a new keyboard layout?

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Renegade Knight

Congress converted in the 90's and forced the government to convert. Then when that was done and the pain was about over, they passed another law and went back. Typical.

We literally need to private sector to convert for them. In a lot of ways they have. My car is all metric now.

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vrmlbasic

Just because everyone else uses it doesn't mean that it makes any sense. A series of arcane measurements contrived by scientists in their ivory towers, measurements that are unwieldy in the real world, versus a system of measurement designed around & for the real world, and honed over the centuries. I, living in the real world, support the latter and that latter is the "imperial" system.

A system where no unit of measure is "just right" and the next available units are either 10x larger or 10x smaller than that first unworkable unit. That's assuming that those measurements are used as there are many metric "prefixes" which I've yet to see used, making the system even more difficult to use as the next unit up/down from any given one might be 100x+ away.

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Cregan89

Typical ignorant American...

0 degrees Celsius = freezing point of water
0 degrees Fahrenheit = freezing point of brine

1 gram = the weight of 1cm cubed of water at freezing point
1 pound = ...basically just 1 pound. The official definition today is literally 0.45359242 kilograms. Originally it was the weight of "A platinum cylinder nearly 1.35 inches high, and 1.15 inches diameter, and the edges are carefully rounded off. It has a groove about 0.34 inches from the top, to allow the cylinder to be lifted using an ivory fork."

1 metre = 1/10,000,000 the distance from the equator to the north pole
1 foot = again, it's actual definition is 25.4 millimetres. Originally it was the length of 3 grains of barley.

Also:
1000 millimetres = 100 centimetres = 1 metre = 0.001 kilometres
12 inches = 1 foot | 3 feet = 1 yards | 1760 yards = 1 mile

Basically, imperial units have absolutely nothing to do with each other. And not only that, but Metric Units correlate between different types of measurement. For example, 1 litre is equal to 10 centimetres cubed, which is the volume of 1 kilogram of water at 0 degrees celsius.

Try taking a chemistry or physics course and see how much fun you have working with measurements that have no correlation to each other. Also, no unit of measure is "just right"? Try working with precise measurements in fractions of an inch... "That's 4.2mm, or 11/64 of an inch!"

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NotYetRated

As a mechanical engineer in the States, who works with both Imperial and Metric units on a daily basis, I can say that the metric system is by far preferable. The only argument in NOT utilizing the metric system is the pain in switching systems over.

There is a reason engineers, physicists and other scientists deal primarily in Metric, and that is because it is a far easier system to utilize. The fact that some people in this thread argue against it simply boggles my mind.

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Ridnarhtim

It's just because you're used to it. I find it confusing as hell that one foot is 12 inches, one yard is 3 feet, one mile is 8 furlong etc. Why is it so inconsistent? It seems like it was just randomly made up on the spot using a random number generator. And you call metric unwieldy?

In metric, everything is just 10 times what the thing before it was. Simple. And why would you have things like cups and feet and chains and stone? Are all cups, feet, chains and stones the exact same size/weight?

I don't really understand the point about fractions. Can you not do fractions in metric? Can you not have half a metre, a quarter of a metre etc? Why would you want to have to say "it's one quarter of a mile that way" when you can instead say "it's 250m." The latter seems much more logical to me.

Note also that imperial units are defined in terms of metric. We have strict definitions of what a metre, a gram, a litre etc. are, and you're just taking those and converting them to something else. If we lost all rulers, scales and other measuring devices in the world, we could still determine what a metre is, but no one would have a clue how much a foot is.

Finally, though, we work in a decimal number system. Why would you not have a decimal measuring system? For all practical applications, it makes much more sense. If you're trying to convert units, say in an physics equation, would you rather have to strike off or add a few zeroes, or divide by something like 8 or 12?

I literally cannot think of a single reason to use imperial, other than that it's what people have grown up with and are used to.

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Ryuka21

in the metric system, distance measurement is by every 10, most are not commonly used but are there: micrometre, millimetere, centimetre, decimetre, metre, decametre, hectometre, kilometre. The main reason IMHO why the metric system was used is a lot of people have difficulty with fractions, metric keeps on have a smaller unit available, where in imperial when they unit don't go smaller they start using fractions. that said i am in canada, born in canada, wouldn't build a house using metric if my life depended on it, feet and inches work great and if you can't figure out fractions your an idiot....... and theirs a lot of idiots out there ..... hence metric. not trying to be a troll, but if it comes off that way, guess my true colours still show through.

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limitbreaker

Lol, the imperial system is great! It is after all based on body parts that are easily available to measure with, how else would a Hill Billy communicate measurements?

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vrmlbasic

I find it fascinating that all the "research" that went into one of the principle units of measure in the metric system, the meter, is scarcely different than the yard, which was derived from "body parts" by "Hill Billy" research.

When the yard is too large it can be broken down into smaller units that are in common use and are larger than 1/10th of a yard. When a meter is too large, the next smallest measurement is 10x smaller, the decimeter, though in my experience the metric user will jump directly to the centimeter, which is 100x smaller.

Trying to use a measuring system like that quickly becomes as tedious as the metric advocates claim the "imperial" system is.

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KrisPC

First of the reason I believe metric system is so widely used is because it is using decimal conversions and they are very easy. I bet an average person can divide/multiply a number faster with 10 than with 8 or 12 or whatever.

The other reason I think metric system is popular is because of prefixes, what you make sound as if they are making things worse. The strenght in milli, centi, kilo, mega etc is that you can use them on length, mass, volume, power and any other units. This means while you have to learn some prefixes (an average person really doesn't need to use or even know more than 5 or 6) you only have 1 unit. Imperial system has inch, foot, yard, mile we have millimeter, centimeter, decimeter, meter, kilometer - we are still dealing with the same meter and the prefix just shows us how much is it divided/multiplied. Might sound harder if you only look at length units but looking at the big picture, we only have liter for volume or gram for mass. So yes, you have to learn some prefixes but you will only have 1 unit.

Also while in everyday life we may use the centi, deci, deca or hecto prefixes all the other steps are 1000 times larger or smaller. Does byte->kilobye->megabyte-> gigabyte->terabyte->petabyte row tell you something? Congratulations, they are all metric system prefixes where next unit is 1000 times larger than the next (and yes, I know that 1 kilobyte = 1024 bytes). I guess you use the same prefixes for watts for example (add milliwatt). So to a degree you are already using metric system prefixes and you already know more than half of the prefixes you will need for everyday life.

I might be wrong but it seems that imperial system stays between micro and kilo (1 thou = 25.4 micrometers and 1 mile = 1.6 kilometers). Before you were saying: "as there are many metric "prefixes" which I've yet to see used". I guess you refer to prefixes like pico, femto, exa, zetta etc. Fact is you can't do modern science with foots and stones, you will need units that are extremely small or extremely large. I don't know what comes after peta or pico because I don't need to, those prefixes are for specialist that work with extremely large or small numbers. I'd say an average person doesn't need to know what comes after milli and kilo (add centi and deci between), because numbers that large and small are becoming impractical for everyday use and so when it becomes for example length units we normally don't even go beyond kilometers (Earth's radius is 6400 km). Though I tend to think this is like that because of the influence of the imperial system.

This "around and for the real world" reminds how many units have been used in gem industry throughout time. The purpose behind this has been to create confusion and rip of buyers. To some degree all measurements are abstract. Perhaps it is more logical that an average person is 5 feet 9 inches tall but for me 1.75 meters is just as logical. It comes down to where we have grown up.

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limitbreaker

Well said, that's exactly what I was thinking but was too lazy to Swype all that on my phone.

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nsvander

What ever happened to the DVORAK keyboard? That was one of the better laid out designs, but ultimately because of the cost, and the fact that just about every business and home user was trained on a QWERTY keyboard, and that it has been in use now almost 200 years, makes it nearly impossible to get anything new. Its the old if it ain't broke dont fix it routine.

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John Pombrio

The space bar should still be under at least one thumb as it is used A LOT.
It would be interesting to see how well the keyboard works. Most keyboards allow reprogramming the keys (think of other languages) so some of this could be field tested. The leap motion controller may be able to mimic this layout also.
I do not really care much about speed as I do not type for a living and am too old to learn new tricks.

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vrmlbasic

For smartphone keyboards I am not the biggest fan of QWERTY as it has too many occurrences of adjacent letters changing an intended short word into a completely different short word and spell-check doesn't flag it. I, O & U being consecutive on QWERTY just makes it that much worse on the phones.

For a PC keyboard, I was forced to learn how to type on QWERTY and I can't say that I mind it or would want to relearn this new keyboard. Even if his keyboard were to become the standard, for at least a few years I'd have to have knowledge of both it and QWERTY as QWERTY wouldn't disappear overnight.

BTW, why does it matter that he's a "music theorist"? It might be relevant if he were a linguist or a professional typist but if he's applying his music theory background to a keyboard, which I can only assume is the case since it was mentioned in the headline, then I can only conclude that it's hokum.

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John Pombrio

The good thing is that he is getting people who do know about the field to test out his theories. Musical notes for the blind is inspired (with a blap noise when spell checker kicks in I'm sure). It's a good try anyways.

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vrmlbasic

I think that I may have missed something: how did "musical notes for the blind", whatever that is, wind up in here?

I still can't say that I see why it was necessary to flash his credentials as a quondam music theorist for this project. He isn't designing a new keyboard for a sound-producing synthesizer so I do not see how this alleged innovation is, in any way, within the championed domain of music theory. This MPC article certainly doesn't clarify this for me.

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ApathyCurve

If I had a nickel...

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