Razer CEO Trash Talks Other PC Makers While Professing his Love for Apple Designs

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Sir Hobbes3

Well, if you're trying to match Apple's quality level then you obviously aren't trying very hard to build a quality product. Oh and sorry but i do not want "a MacBook for the Windows community."

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wumpus

First, the PC is "dying" in that there the primary reason to buy hardware is that your old PC's hardware failed. Moore's law only provides more transistors per chip, but doesn't significantly change the speed/power/cost enough to buy a new computer. Even new copies of windows are running on the old boxes. No CEO is going to change that, nor could they without redefining what a "PC" is (Apple does this all the time, but they don't need to make a "PC"). If Intel thought they could make a CPU that would replace every sitting desktop (or even a good chunk of them), they would. Instead we get products for the mobile space.

Last I looked the PC gets defined by Microsoft, Intel and to a lesser extent HP and Dell. Balmer and the entire chain of HP CEOs since Carly was hired have been idiots and/or criminals. No idea if Micheal Dell knows anything beyond cutting costs (and Enron-style accounting), but I wouldn't look to him for leadership. After Intel buried AMD they haven't looked back at the desktop (windows 8 shows that Microsoft is right behind them). I'd only claim that Intel choose not care about the desktop, the rest of them couldn't save it if their golden parachutes depended on it.

The real catch is that this is how capitalism (in its modern form) works. Generally, innovations comes from startups and continues into the founders sell out and retire. Once the founders are gone, the "industry leading" companies simply act like lemmings following each other because nobody there ever had to make the decisions that lead to the company becoming successful, nor how how to make new such decisions. For all the fuss over Saint Jobs, at least he knew why the company existed, and could identify which products he wanted pushed. It should be no surprise that Microsoft stopped leading after Bill Gates left, and it shouldn't surprise anyone if Apple stops leading without Jobs. We can only hope that it won't be the disaster that followed the deaths of Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard (sorry if I offended the rapid anti-apple fanboys). Intel has enough on the ball to figure that they can continue making x86 chips (about the only thing they've made money at since 1990) but have at least figured out that they need new places to sell them and have adjusted to at least try it.

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Arlips

Pretty much confirms flat out that Razer is the Apple of the PC hardware world. Focused on aesthetics while pushing overpriced and underperforming tech.

Apple is actually better though since their build quality is actually good while Razer uses the cheapest materials possible to achieve the best profit margin.

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OpTicaL

Razer uses some of the cheapest materials for their mice and keyboards. Keys on their switchblade ui is super flimsy with a very cheap feeling.

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ohsnaps1104

I've never been a big fan of Dell, too many cheaply made proprietary parts.

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xeones

Despite the title of this article making him sound like an asshat, i have to agree with him on mostly everything. It's just that gaming on a laptop really doesn't excite me that much. For a mouse&keyboard gamer it really doesn't work. Small uncomfortable keyboard, smaller mouse usually, and smaller screen.

Sometimes I will bring my projector and xbox360 controller on the road with me and plug those in and that's great for some games but the bottom line is if you want to run the latest games on a laptop you have to have one hell of an expensive laptop... not really worth it in my humble opinion.

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Ghok

I guess laptops are used by a lot of people as a primary machine but I have found them to be terribly unreliable with a short lifespan. I have a laptop for the portability element, but the PC gets the main use because I'm likely to be at home when I'm on my computer. I don't play games on the laptop very often. I think it would be nice to have two gaming computers, but when I can only afford to purchase one, I am not going to pick the laptop gaming machine, a desktop gaming machine is going to be a better for so many reasons. I can see why to some people, portability would be worth the sacrifice, but not forme.

Tan's right though. My laptop is actually an Apple. The main reason is because OSx is the standard in my field (sadly). I have to admit that it's an awesome innovative machine that works well and looks nice. It's actually changing my opinion on laptops a bit. I can see why people love them. Most PC makers don't come close to that level of design, and that's probably because they're scared to.

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noobstix

blah blah blah blah

Their Onza controllers are pieces of shit.

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Xenite

blah, blah, blah... who cares, where is my left handed Naga already?

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danwat1234

I am excited about the new ~15" Razer Blade. Dual cooling fans, a 765m GPU, hopefully a decently clocked Haswell CPU.
But, there is too much price gouging with the highest SSD size; 512GB version is $2300 from them.
Also there should be an option to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. 8GB is not a high enough limit for such an expensive machine.
WIDI would be nice.

Otherwise it is quite an achievement. A lot of power in that 4 pound laptop.

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Drew7

ASUS all the way. Nuff said.

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danwat1234

The G50VT/VX is a beast. Still rocking it today with an SSD, 1 hard drive (with an option to turn the optical slot into a hard drive bay)and an X9100. Crunching seti@home 24/7 on the GPU and CPU.

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Drew7

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TheMissingPiece

The fact that Razer isn't making a huge profit margin on its systems does not surprise me. They're by all means a boutique OEM, and given the niche market for their products, I'm willing to bet that the operating costs of those are quite a bit higher than that of Dell, HP, etc.

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OpTicaL

That's because Razer spends a lot of money on marketing. Just look at their booth girls.

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Blackheart-1220

fuck you razer, fuck you!!! I'm so glad I never bought a single one of your cheap quality products.

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Scatter

For the most part the general population are as passionate about their PCs are they are about their refrigerators. They purchase one to serve a purpose and it either delivers or it doesn't. Enthusiasts are the exception to every industry.

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Cleaver

I agree with him also.

When was the last time you saw someone get passionate about an OEM machine? If there's someone out there that was a hardcore fan of Dell, it's usually either because they were a Dell employee or they just didn't know what they fuck they were talking about.

OEMs need to step up their innovation game, so that that way if someone is a hardcore fan of Dell, I can understand why. Not everyone wants to have a computer built by themselves, and they need something or someone that isn't Apple that they can rally around.

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Pulagatha

I built a computer ages ago. Several years later I started looking at sites like MaximumPC and Engadget for the best computers I could find, instead of, building one. The first I got was an Asus EeeBox 1501. It was cheap, ran old games, and had a nice design. I enjoyed it a lot. A couple of years later I wanted to get another computer. Small, but could run the latest games... I got an Alienware X51 I7 8GB GTX555. This thing is better than most people give it credit for. Some people have posted a few videos on YouTube if you're curious.

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Joji

He has a point. HP and Dell are some of the worst "PC makers" out there. Heck, the plastic bits of my Lenovo Shitop keeps on breaking due to bumps and etc. Not very durable IMO.

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Joji

After reading both of your comments. I guess you guys are right. I haven't thought of the stuff you guys mentioned. I was thinking more on desktop PCs than laptops. Dell's PCs breaks too often IMO.

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Scatter

I disagree. For the majority of people who use their computers for productivity purposes (homework, Office, financial applications, email, Facebook, etc...) a HP or Dell does everything that they need it to do. This is also why HP and Dell are struggling with PCs. Once a person has a PC there's very little reason to upgrade to a more powerful one since you really don't need much power to run these applications. To these people a PC is just a tool and really aren't Maximum PC or Razer's target audience.

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Paper Jam

Apple desktops and laptops are no different on the productivity side than HPs and Dells. People buy fresh Apple products because of the attractive shell. Never mind the outdated components, all they care about is the higher resolution screen and slick looking package. They will even pay a premium price. This is where HP, Dell, and other PC vendors missed the opportunity to make money. They make cheap, utilitarian looking products, not cool, fashionable looking products. They allowed the PC to become an appliances like your microwave oven. Why upgrade when it still cooks your Hot Pocket just as good?

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DeltaFIVEengineer

I'm curious, what can an Apple computer not do with the "outdated" components they contain?

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Paper Jam

That's part of what I was saying. They build their current generation hardware with last year's components, slap a high resolution screen and a slick body on it, mark it up higher than their competitor's equivalent offerings, and sell them to people who don't actually need a performance upgrade. And Apple fans and people with too much money eat it up.

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Engelsstaub

...or people who are investment-minded enough to realize that they are buying into a product that they can sell for 75% of what they paid for it when they upgrade 3-4 years later. Try getting 20% for a Dell laptop even two years later.

I've bought PC laptops for years before I realized who's REALLY ignorant and blinded when it comes to pricing. Thankfully I'm not wasting my money anymore. Even the "high-end" brand names like Alienware don't have crap for resale value after a year. I paid 2300 USD for an Alienware laptop a few years back. Less than a year later the same product was getting about 800 bucks on eBay. Those "latest/greatest!" components in the Alienware were of no consequence or concern to anyone for resale and were themselves long outdated by then.

Just offering a different perspective in which to view this from/no troll.

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Paper Jam

@Engelsstaub

I agree. That is kinda my point, too. PCs are like household appliances. Nobody expects to get top dollar returns on a used microwave. Apple desktops and laptops are personal computers, but are more than PCs. Apple makes fashion items and status symbols. Is a 5 year old Apple more capable than a 5 year old Dell? No, and it will have inferior components compared to an equivalently priced machine of the same age. But because of the name and style the Apple will be considered more desirable, or at least to some. This is the fault of PC OEMs. The average consumer isn't concerned with the quality of what is inside.

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Engelsstaub

Agreed, Paper Jam. If a company like Razer could build a "BMW-like" rep and get the brand-loyalty that Apple has things would change.

I think most laptop manufacturers are taking the easy way out like doing Intel's "ultrabook" thing. That's a war they'll never win. They should all stop chasing the MacBook Air and put some R&D into coming up with the next marketable and desirable thing that Apple doesn't already have a lock on.

Another thing (most) PC laptop manufacturers fail to understand or sacrifice in the name of the quick-buck is establishing customer satisfaction through support after the sale. If Apple offers an extended warranty @ 2 more years for $150 somebody like Razer or Asus should give them three for $99 on their comparable offerings. I honestly believe Apple could get their asses handed to them at any price if one or two other laptop manufacturers stepped it up in a few areas. Like you basically said: the general population isn't going to care if their laptop has the latest i7 and one of the best mobile GPUs or not. They're going to buy the name and believe they are getting a better ride with the "BMW." We both know that a BMW is really no better than a Honda or a Volkswagen but costs a lot more and has a more desirable (for now) badge on the hood.

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Cleaver

@DeltaFIVEengineer

Well, if they are "outdated," they probably can't right-click.

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Paper Jam

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