Rapid Growth in Android Adoption Hurts Other Mobile OSes

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QUINTIX256

Android is subsidised by advertising. There is only so much that can be paid for with "Lose Weight With This One Wierd Rule" and other such ilk Google's Adwords and DoubleClick spit out.

Linux, which is what it is based on, doesn't have an effective revenue model. How many users of stuff from the Free Software Foundation actually donate to the Free Software Fondation?

You can have your recession. I'm not participating.

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lien_meat

"Linux, which is what it is based on, doesn't have an effective revenue model."
You know, that's just the silliest thing anyone can ever say...and it's really getting boring to hear.
First off, andriod, while it does run the linux kernel, doesn't really use anything else you would normally see in a normal gnu/linux install, besides a couple really basic gnu tools nearly essential to making the linux kernel at all useful, so why it would be a bad thing they they are using it is beyond me...you can't do much better than make money off of something you got for free...

On top of that, just because the linux kernel itself may not have an "effective revenue model" doesn't mean companies don't leverage it to make money every day.  Linux is Red Hat's bread and butter for instance...last I checked they are doing pretty well for themselves.

 "How many users of stuff from the Free Software Foundation actually donate to the Free Software Fondation?"
Google actually has a really good track record here.  Most everything they make(besides their search engine) they opensource or let people use for free.  That's as good a donation as any.  And actually if you want to get technical about it, anyone who utilizes gpl'ed code and extends it by the license should be "donating" code back...since it by license should be gpl'ed...so I'm not sure what the heck you are trying to get at here...

Go a head and criticize Googles use of open source to leverage their add business all you want, but don't try pulling off saying ridiculous, unrelated things about the tools they use in their business not having effective revenue models...that's just silly.  Their business in general may not turn out to have an effective revenue model, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily the fault of the tools they use.

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QUINTIX256

I'll like to see you keep food on the table and a roof over your head solely by "donating" code.

You can have your recession. I'm not participating.

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lien_meat

It's not like many people usually "solely" donate code (there are of course exceptions).  That's a pretty silly assessment of what I said I think.

More realistically, they develop something for a (business) reason, and when they are through, decide that other people might find it useful, although it may possibly not just suit their needs outright, and they don't feel like marketing it as a product, so they opensource it so people can use it and modify it as they please to suit their specific needs.

Other projects are invested in/sponsored by companies, but are kept open source as to more easily meet the needs of all possible parties involved.  Kde, apache, mysql (heh, if it survives now), mozilla, are all pretty good examples of this kind of open source thinking.

I'm not saying either of these are great models of making money, but they sure as hell are working for some people, and in my opinion, you'd be foolish to dismiss the open source business model completely.

Nobody just writes and open sources code trying to make a living doing it, and I find it demeaning/offensive that you suggested that's what I was eluding to.

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mattman059

Maybe this will help ole apple out haha..

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580904574638630584151614.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

or maybe they'll just delay it again and gain yet another "Fail" sticker 

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